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[opensuse-wiki] [[Portal:Wiki]] - News
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal%3AWiki&diff=21663&oldid=20335 http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal%3AWiki%2FNews&diff=21659&oldi… I created (recreated???) a news-box to the wiki's own portal and improved (in my opinion) [[Portal:Wiki/News]]. Hope it is to your liking/you are able to change what you like not. Regards pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Need help with VNC wiki articles
by Tim Mohlmann 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

Hello people! I'm sending this to both opensuse and opensuse-wiki list to ask for some help on this. I am moving content from http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Remote_access_to_openSUSE to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Remote_access Putting general information in the latter and creating / updating topic specific articles. I need help from someone who knows about VNC. And I ask for the following: http://en.opensuse.org/VNC Needs to be a general description about (tight?)VNC. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:VNC_usage Is a copy - paste from the original Remote access article. It is a HOWTO use VNC and needs to be verified and updated. Thanks in advance! Tim http://en.opensuse.org/User:Muhlemmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Just a comment on the wiki
by C 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

Hey guys.. just wanted to comment on the work on the oS Wiki... it's really shaping up nice. You can see a lot of hard work has gone into bringing it this far... it's got a long ways to go yet :-) As someone who's been on the sidelines a lot just watching... I'm wondering... how can the rest of the community lend a hand with the migration? Moving pages isn't really a task that can be parceled out... or is it? What other tasks are sitting waiting to be done? When was the last "reminder" or status update sent out to the general oS community (was it lost in the general mailing list chaos)? How many out there know about http://en.opensuse.org/Help:Transfer ? An one last question... what about a headline on the openSUSE Weekly? Just trying to think how I and others can contribute... and raise some awareness/help instead of just seeing complaints. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Improvements to templateNavbar
by Rajko M. 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

It is compatible with old one, just uses bento like layout: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Navbar_1 Currently is used for only one page :) http://en.opensuse.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Navbar_1 If you agree we can replace the old one. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] use of localized wikis
by jdd 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

Hello, wiki team :-) As you may know, the localized wikis are no more in par with the english wiki. I plan to create new page (or translate some from the en one), and I would like to know what is the prefered syntax. Until now, it was advised to use the very same name from the english wiki and do a redirect to the localized page. For exemple, if a page "install on usb" was on the en wiki, the french wiki held a page "install on usb" that redirects to "installer sur usb". This allowed the interwiki links to work easier. * till the move these links don't work anymore -lack of "old-" in the link. Could somebody correct this or explain how I can do, at least until the localized wiki have done the move; * How can we do similar things now for new pages? I don't know how to cope with the namespaces, if we don't have them in localized wikis. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Boletín 135 de las Noticias Semanales de openSUSE en Español
by Marco ''AlpVonKri'' Flores 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

El boletín 135 de las Noticias Semanales de openSUSE en Español está listo para ser traducido. ¡Únete al equipo! +Info http://bit.ly/9uhtmN Saludos. -- Marco "AlpVonKri" Flores Computer Systems Engineer Ing. Sistemas Computacionales http://www.alpvonkri.co.cc alpvonkri(a)alpvonkri.co.cc openSUSE Member ~ Ambassador ~ Weekly News Miembro ~ Embajador ~ Noticias Semanales http://wiki.opensuse.org/User:Alpvonkri alpvonkri(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Fix for Session Data Lost Error
by Matthew Ehle 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

>>>> Thomas Schmidt 08/07/10 10:43 AM >>> >On 08/07/2010 05:56 AM, Matthew Ehle wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I have rolled a fix for Bug 619735 to the production wiki. I have provided details about the problem and solution there, but here's the short of it: >> >> PHP requires session_start() to be called before any session data can be saved. The javascript login only passes login information to iChain and never explicitly calls the MediaWiki login, where the >> session_start() function is called. Thus, when using the javascript login, no session is started, and no session data is saved. Editing a page also calls session_start(), which is why it starts >> working after trying it one time. >> >> I added a session_start() call in the automatic iChain login script, and I have not been able to duplicate the problem on stage since. As this appears to solve the problem, I have moved it out to the >> live wiki. Please test it out and report any issues to me. If I don't hear anything over the weekend, I'll close the bug out on Monday. >> >> In addition to the fix, the latest deployment also contains the code for email validation. It won't do anything until it is provided certain header information by iChain, which should be set up to do >> that on Monday morning. > >Cool, thanks Matthew for finding this nasty bug! No problem! Looks like I was a little hasty in trying to blame this on your login form (I'm assuming that you were involved in its development). It actually works really well, aside from originally sending passwords in plain text ;) Actually, I think a lot of the random login/session problems that have been reported in the forums were because of this long-standing bug. The javascript login only made it more apparent, so it turned out to be quite a good thing!

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[opensuse-wiki] Fix for Session Data Lost Error
by Matthew Ehle 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

Hello Everyone, I have rolled a fix for Bug 619735 to the production wiki. I have provided details about the problem and solution there, but here's the short of it: PHP requires session_start() to be called before any session data can be saved. The javascript login only passes login information to iChain and never explicitly calls the MediaWiki login, where the session_start() function is called. Thus, when using the javascript login, no session is started, and no session data is saved. Editing a page also calls session_start(), which is why it starts working after trying it one time. I added a session_start() call in the automatic iChain login script, and I have not been able to duplicate the problem on stage since. As this appears to solve the problem, I have moved it out to the live wiki. Please test it out and report any issues to me. If I don't hear anything over the weekend, I'll close the bug out on Monday. In addition to the fix, the latest deployment also contains the code for email validation. It won't do anything until it is provided certain header information by iChain, which should be set up to do that on Monday morning.

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[opensuse-wiki] Redundant namespaces, in particular openSUSE:
by Brandon Philips 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Hello All and Everyone- Today, I wish to talk about redundancy. In particular things that add no new information and are a simple rearrangement of the understood data. In other words: repetitiveness for no-gain at all. Problem ------- I was trying to point a community member at the Kernel Git page today so they could get involved. But I was baffled to find it gone. Searching a bit I ended up finding it at this URL: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git Two openSUSE's in one URL, what a deal! Without that openSUSE: namespace I might have thought I was going to grab the Ubuntu Kernel Git... As we are breaking URLs all over with this new wiki anyways can we take a moment and consider the URL monsters we are creating here? Just look at it once again: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git There has got to be something better, lets find a solution. :) Solution -------- Lets look at the mission statement of the openSUSE: namespace[1]: "And the openSUSE community's openSUSE: namespace to collaboratively write on documentation for their projects and teams." Possible alternatives: 0. No namespace at all, the openSUSE community exists at openSUSE.org! We have an entire domain to call our own! Why do we need a namespace? 1. devel: ? Oh, but these teams are not necessarily developers 2. teams: ? Erm, no because then it would be teams:Kernel_git which makes no sense 3. community: ? Maybe, but community:Java packaging cookbook looks strange 4. project: ? This is my second choice as nearly all of the links on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project are to the openSUSE: namespace... 1-4 have their problems but at least they are not redundant. Lets discuss what problem this openSUSE: namespace is trying to solve and how we can make sane looking URLs on our new wiki. And lets do it fast so we can avoid breaking URLs again. Cheers, Brandon [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki/Concept -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] "Terms of site" for other languages
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Help:Translation&curid=4820&diff=2… " + |[[Terms of site]] + |Please add the following header translated into your language: <nowiki>{{Info|This is an translation of the [[en:Terms_of_site|openSUSE Terms of site]] into '''LANGUAGE'''. It does not legally state terms for these pages—only the original English text of the Terms of site do that. However, we hope that this translation will help language speakers understand the Terms of site better.}}</nowiki>" As legal terms are not congruent in other languages and nether are the legal systems based on that languages - this is not a task for a person without an education in legal issues. And I doubt that such a person (if not very stupid and so not the best choice to do it at all) will do that without the security of a paid insurance and/or something that assures he/or she is free of liability according to the legal system he/she (and probably also the users and contributors of the wiki in that language) lives in. And maybe someone professional should also examine which terms of that standard form contract would be binding in the legal systems the contributors and the users would probably live in. Regards pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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