July 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] cinnamon
by Nelson Marques 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

Coolo, I know this is going to enable you in 'Wrath of God' mode, but nevertheless I have to do it... There's a lot of reports from Cinnamon not being working with proprietary drivers, it does with open source drivers. To be honest, though it's just two packages, it's something not worth the trouble to maintain... here's why: 1) We have 2 GNOME releases per cycle; this means 2 completly different cinnamon's for every cycle; 2) Upstream development isn't either as active as we would like, neither has been receptive to bugs outside Ubuntu/Debian; this is good enough to drop this packages on the spot... 3) Fedora and openSUSE have been having a few issues with prelinking; I can't fix this, goes way over the stuff I know. 4) Fedora has a lot of people trying to block cinnamon from being available in Fedora due to how upstream is doing the development.... This to say... either someone takes cinnamon or it dies right here and right now. I don't have time to go on crazy wild goose chases... and maybe it's time to stop the crazy non-sense stuff I've been doing and dedicate myself to hunting, which at least does provide food :) I'm going to vaporize cinnamon and request deletion from Factory if there are no objections and never look to the thing again :) -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Calling for a new openSUSE development model
by Jan Engelhardt 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

In http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-06/msg00618.html : > >a gcc update would be useful, this probably has to happen very early in >the cycle (right after the release). It looks like this proposal has potential, but I wonder and ponder. I went on to compare the development schedules of a few groups. Because I could not find the freeze dates for older openSUSE anymore (why remove them from the detailed view?), I took RC1 as freeze point. #Group Ratio days between merge-phase and frozen-phase # openSUSE_11.4 7.50 210/28(RC1) openSUSE_12.1 8.62 224/26(RC1) openSUSE_12.2 7.78 210/27(RC1) (prerel-freeze: 6.18, 204/33) Debian_4 4.73 553/117 Debian_5 2.34 476/203 Debian_6 2.91 536/184 Fedora_17 1.22 111/91 Fedora_16 1.67 105/63 Fedora_15 1.06 104/98 And now for the winners: Linux_3.4 0.24 12/50 Linux_3.3 0.25 15/59 Linux_3.2 0.24 14/58 My interpretation: there is not enough testing going on in openSUSE. In http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-06/msg00611.html : > >People that commit (accept) changes to a repo should check back within >the next 24h whether the repo still builds and if not fix their >breakage. Manually checking is time consuming. Email delivery about failed events would be better. Such already exists in OBS, but with a handful of twists. For one, the notification system is too coarse: IIRC, lnussel has enabled notifications for his account, and he will get fail reports for packages/PRPs he is not interested in. That is what I remember from a mail of his after I added non-SUSE targets to security:netfilter... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Question about Software Manager in YaST
by Basil Chupin 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

I just re-installed (yes, again, because the devil made me do it) openSUSE Beta #2 - and, yes, once again, the full DVD, Build #452, ISO one. After installation, all files were upgraded/updated/whatever. And mostly done using zypper. (And whoever invented zypper deserves the Nobel Prize! YaST need not even think about it :-( ...) Can someone please tell me when the Software Manager in YaST is expected to be made usable once again? Usable as in not suddenly disappearing off the screen when one left-clicks on an application to select it for installation? Any information would be gratefully, and most humbly, accepted and recognised. Thank you. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.4.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Wifi support for Intel Centrino-N 2200 needs missing /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-2000-6.ucode
by Foolish Ewe 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

Hello All: I have a brand new Toshiba Satellite P855-S5200, and cannot get wifi working on it under OpenSuse 12.1 (now with a Tumbleweed kernel), but OpenSuse cannot drive the wifi. This laptop has an Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM Processor, and Windows 7 drives the wifi flawlessly, claiming it is a Centrino-N 2200 device (if memory serves, I'll send a correction if this is wrong). For full disclosure, I filed an OpenSuse 12.1 bug report at: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769678, here I'm requesting a fix in Tumbleweed. This problem is also in the tumbleweed kernel, which gave: uname -a Linux linux-6lhe.site 3.4.3-30-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 18 11:52:36 UTC 2012 (41613b0) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [/code] However, in /var/log/messages I still got: [code] Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097048] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097057] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097089] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_len = 0x00002000 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097091] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: pci_resource_base = ffffc900057cc000 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097094] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: HW Revision ID = 0xC4 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097186] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097230] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Detected 2000 Series 2x2 BGN, REV=0x104 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.097305] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: L1 Disabled; Enabling L0S Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.116637] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: device EEPROM VER=0x81c, CALIB=0x6 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.116640] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Device SKU: 0X150 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.116642] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Valid Tx ant: 0X3, Valid Rx ant: 0X3 Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.116657] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 0 802.11a channels Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.261379] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2000-5.ucode' failed. Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.261387] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: no suitable firmware found! Jul 2 15:42:14 linux-6lhe kernel: [ 17.261505] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A disabled I was able to fix this by ensuring that the microcode is installed in /lib/firmware as per the hints at: http://mtekk.us/archives/guides/fixing-request-for-firmware-file-failed/ OpenSuse does use modules, however please note that there is now iwlwifi-2000-*.ucode module, where * wildcards the version number, in /lib/firmware. Downloading and installing the iwlwifi-2000-*.ucode (in my case * = 6) from http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=downloads into /lib/firmware fixed the problem with the tumbleweed kernel. Could the appropriate firmware please be included in future distributions? Thanks: Bill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] grub2
by Hans Witvliet 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hi all, today i received a message that grub-2.0 is finally released. I lost track counting how may years they needed for it ;-) Obviously this version can not be included into 12.2, much too late for that now. >From what i learned from the grub2-list, last couple of weeks quite a number of changes finally made it. So will grub2.0 be in a update after the 12.2 release, or will it be 12.3? Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] rc* symlinks for systemd native services
by Ludwig Nussel 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hi, (open)SUSE always had those rc* symlinks (e.g. rcvsftpd) as convenience feature to easily run init scripts without relying on fancy bash completions. As long as the service still has a sysv init script using the rc link still works fine as the init script magically redirects to systemd. Native service files however lack such feature and systemctl somehow feels clumsy to me. So I added a hack (now in Factory) to /sbin/service so it can act as rc* wrapper for both sysv init scripts and systemd units. IOW if your package has a service foo: /lib/systemd/system/foo.service then package a symlink like this: /usr/sbin/rcfoo -> /sbin/service Now rcfoo works as expected again. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Bring back kexec for rebooting the first half of the installation
by Roman Bysh 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hello List Mates, Remember back in 11.3 - 11.4. kexec started after the first half of the installation - right after Grub was installed and configured. Kexec started the reboot and the installation proceeded into the second half -- auto configuring, setting up the printer etc... We didn't even have to press the <enter> key to "Boot from Hard Drive". I thought this was a great way of installing openSUSE! Is there a chance that this can be brought back? Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] settings needed to get apache working on a local pc {127.0.0.1}
by doiggl＠velocitynet.com.au 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hello, I am trying to get apache working on a local pc {127.0.0.1} and get this message. Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 127.0.0.1 Wed May 30 19:08:55 2012 Apache/2.2.22 (Linux/SUSE) I have this version of Apache installed on Opensuse 12.2 factory # rpm -qa | grep -i apache | sort apache2-2.2.22-2.3.x86_64 apache2-mod_php5-5.3.10-1.3.x86_64 apache2-prefork-2.2.22-2.3.x86_64 apache2-utils-2.2.22-2.3.x86_64 Questions: - Which directory should this index document reside ? - Is there some documentation on how to get apache working, have you got a link to it ? Thanks Glenn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] automake 1.12 and gettext in our coming 12.2
by Marguerite Su 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hi, all The version of gettext in 12.2 has an upstream bug that it still uses depreciated AM_PROG_MKDIR_P which is obsoleted since automake 1.10 and actively obsoleted from 1.12. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake-patches/2012-04/msg00198.html https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33722 (latest comment say it's a gettext bug) And this will cause some packages in 12.2 fails with a "gcc warning taken as error" error. Solution A is to tweak the spec file of specific packages like man, gnutls by replacing "AM_PROG_MKDIR_P" to newer "AC_PROG_MKDIR_P", "$(MKDIR_P)" to "$(mkdir_p)" and removing "-Werror" from CFLAGS. This is okay to man, but to gnutls, this tweak seems doesn't build .po files at all. Solution B is to tweak gettext package but I don't know how. So gettext maintainers please take care of it. Greetings, Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] splitting the update repo in oss/non-oss?
by Ludwig Nussel 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Hi, openSUSE currently has separate repos for free software according to the free software definition and software that is not free according to that definition (*:NonFree projects in obs). There's only one update repo though that mixes both types of software again. Question is whether we should clean that up an have two update repos. One for oss and one for non-oss. Advantage of two repos is the clear separation of non-free components of course. You can't accidentally build against non-free stuff then. Disadvantage might be that this would add two more repos to a default installation (the non-oss update repo itself and a separate debuginfo repo). Any opinions on the matter? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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