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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Lime JeOS: The openSUSE based JeOS
by Jordi Massaguer 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Ok. I'll send the email to Adrian next week. Meanwhile I'll try to set up my own buildservice on a virtual machine and see how difficult would be to add the appliance things. By the way, JeOS is about 350MB. I think there is still some stuff that can be remove, but I'll try that on a later stage (like documentation and some Perl-Modules). I do have a question for the factory guys. AppArmor is in the minimal system. Should be this way? If we create a software appliance and not configure properly AppArmor, would not that be a problem more than a benefit? Or is it a good idea to have AppArmor even though it is not configured (or configured with the default configuration)? thanks, jordi massaguer i pla http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/ lin.cat: Serveis professionals en linkat http://www.lin.cat ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> Para: Jordi Massaguer <jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es> CC: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org; adrian(a)suse.de Enviado: martes, 18 de marzo, 2008 15:37:22 Asunto: Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Lime JeOS: The openSUSE based JeOS Jordi Massaguer <jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es> writes: > Hi AJ, > > thanks for the email. Actually I am basing the JeOS on the minimal pattern. I tried to set up a project on the buildservice that was linking all the minimal pattern rpms (and dependencies), so software appliances could be projects on the buildservice that where build on JeOs project (from a technical point of view. The UI may be a new web application). However, some rpms are missing (the kernel for example) and it looked like I could not set up my project as a build platform. This is something to discuss with the Build Service guys - perhaps on their list. > That makes me consider installing my own build service and define JeOS as a build platform and then modify the web UI or make a new one that runs the kiwi and is more software appliance oriented. That will have a lot of sense, especially when multiple build services can be connected. > > Meanwhile, I've started conversations with possible sponsors, so I am looking for a very good server with very good bandwith, and that is not costless ;) . However the conversations are still in a very early stage. > > So, what do you think is the best approach? Especially for updating to the new versions of JeOS to the new openSUSE versions. I suggest you talk with Adrian next week (he's currently travelling) and see what's possible, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 ______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! El buzón de correo sin límite de almacenamiento. http://es.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Lime JeOS: The openSUSE based JeOS
by Jordi Massaguer 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Hi AJ, thanks for the email. Actually I am basing the JeOS on the minimal pattern. I tried to set up a project on the buildservice that was linking all the minimal pattern rpms (and dependencies), so software appliances could be projects on the buildservice that where build on JeOs project (from a technical point of view. The UI may be a new web application). However, some rpms are missing (the kernel for example) and it looked like I could not set up my project as a build platform. That makes me consider installing my own build service and define JeOS as a build platform and then modify the web UI or make a new one that runs the kiwi and is more software appliance oriented. That will have a lot of sense, especially when multiple build services can be connected. Meanwhile, I've started conversations with possible sponsors, so I am looking for a very good server with very good bandwith, and that is not costless ;) . However the conversations are still in a very early stage. So, what do you think is the best approach? Especially for updating to the new versions of JeOS to the new openSUSE versions. Jordi Andreas Jaeger wrote: Hi Jordi, I've seen your blog discussion about Lime JeOS (http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/2008/03/limejeos-opensuse-based-jeos.…) and consider this a great idea! How far are you? Are you able to create first images? What functionality do you want to have in them and how large are the images? We have done for openSUSE 10.3 and also for openSUSE 11.0 some work to make the minimal system smaller so that you can create a small appliance. If you have any ideas on what else can be done for Lime JeOS in the base distribution, please discuss it here. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 jordi massaguer i pla http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/ lin.cat: Serveis professionals en linkat http://www.lin.cat ______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! Disfruta de una bandeja de entrada más inteligente. http://es.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Czech Packagers Team (Prague) weekly status 2008-03-14
by Ladislav Michnovič 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Czech Packagers Team (Prague) weekly status 2008-03-14 ====================================================== We discussed on meeting: 32bit plug-in supplements on 64 bit arch Sbrabec want to solve 32bit plug-in packages (gtk2 themes and input methods) supplements automatically in mkbaselibs script on 64bit arch but autobuild team thinks this should handle every package separately. Other work: * anicka - ocaml: update to 3.10.1, investigate the build process - perl-DBD-ODBC: update to 1.15, fix minor problems, adapt our barch patch - perl-Net_SSLeay: update to 1.32, fix minor problems, package Test::Warn and dependent modules to test it properly - other perl modules: updating, fixing minor bugs - LinuxExpo organization * anosek - put saxon (6.5.5) and saxon8 (B.8.8) into Stable (updated, small adjustements) - put bea-stax into Stable, tried to update, resolved license issue #369318 * jmatejek - updating packages: Python 2.5.2 IPython 0.8.2 Pybliographer 1.2.11 * lmichnovic - Reported Intel graphics problems with wine bnc#369700. Sndirsch applied the upstream patch for Mesa, so DX games should work under wine on Intel 965 graphics card. - quota: update to version 3.16 - cpio: applied patch fixing wrong permissions after extracting - myspell-dictionaries: updated bg_BG, da_dk, de_AT, de_CH, de_DE, gl_ES, lv_LV, sk_SK, sv_SV *mkudlvasr - several fixes in VirtualBox * mmarek - curl: fixed gssapi check - mdadm bug #368704: turned out even newest mdadm has the problem, Neil will look into it - mysql: + updated server:database:mysql51 to 5.1.13-rc + merged mysqld_multi support done by rbos to Factory mysql + cleaned up specs - osc-ftp: fixed readline completion * mvyskocil - fixed builds in OBS: jakarta-commons-betwixt0, jakarta-commons-math, batik - new packages in OBS: - xdoclet - tomcat5(api packages only) - jetty5 - plexus-jetty-https - jakarta-commons-jelly - ws-commons-{tcpmon,utils} - xmlbeans - maven-{doxia,jxr,surefire} - aspecwerkz - checkstyle - new or updated packages in stable (merged with jpackage project): jakarta-commons-discovery 0.3 0.4 jakarta-commons-collections 3.1 3.2 - new subpackages testframework, testframework-javadoc, tomcat5 jakarta-commons-io N/A 1.3.2 apache-portlet-1.0-api N/A 1.0 jakarta-commons-fileupload 0.9 1.1 jakarta-commons-pool 1.2 1.3 jdepend 2.6 2.9.1 Java:jpackage-1.7 statistics: packages in buildservice: 361 not there yet: 157 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE_10.3 openSUSE_Factory i586 / x86_64 i586 / x86_64 succeded: 244 248 12(*) 252 expansion error:92 92 215 87 failed: 10 12 N/A 13 (*) a problem with version of Factory in BS, which produced too much of expansion errors * nadvornik - update of dwd-rw-tools: Please test it and fill bug report if something is wrong. - Cooperation with Debian maintainer of Midnight Commander to collect all non-upstream patches and merge them * pcerny - de-bugging pinentry/gpg2 * prusnak - SDL: fixed #368745 - missing X11_KeyToUnicode - plib: updated to 1.8.5, fixed strncat usage - gammu: updated to 1.19.0 - python-gammu: updated to 0.25 - wammu: updated to 0.26 - ogre: updated to 1.4.7 - iptables: closed #366372 as wontfix (need 3rd party kernel patches) - centerim: updated to 4.22.3 * sbrabec - alsa-oss: Fixed bi-arch clash bnc#117079. - smartmontools, desktop-file-utils: Update. - bnc#354164: Research and fixing on bi-arch module conunterparts (gnome-session, gtk2-engines, gtk2-themes) - silc-toolkit: Fixing buffer overflow, update (bnc#369067). - Installing, configuring and testing OpenSUSE 11.0 alpha 2 plus. - Branding: branding packages: Work on branding packages. - gtk2: Splitting branding, created gtk2-branding-openSUSE. - gconf2: Support for seaprate vendor repository. - gconf2-branding-openSUSE: Inspecting package customizations, collecting look and feel changes. - gnome-panel, metacity: Reviewing custom look and feel patches, initial panel setup, fixing and moving to gconf2-branding-openSUSE. -- Best Regards Ladislav Michnovič. Package Maintainer - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lmichnovic(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 950 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ Key fingerprint: FF0B B0B7 7AFD D5FB 7A72 8B09 9035 2A8A 9AC3 D35A -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH35y2kDUqiprD01oRAl/tAJ9jbjLUFydY86+EJT7InnZGciG0CgCeNeg5 7/zMa7jhR84XR3hg9su4me0= =pqAL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse-factory] Lime JeOS: The openSUSE based JeOS
by Andreas Jaeger 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Hi Jordi, I've seen your blog discussion about Lime JeOS (http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/2008/03/limejeos-opensuse-based-jeos.…) and consider this a great idea! How far are you? Are you able to create first images? What functionality do you want to have in them and how large are the images? We have done for openSUSE 10.3 and also for openSUSE 11.0 some work to make the minimal system smaller so that you can create a small appliance. If you have any ideas on what else can be done for Lime JeOS in the base distribution, please discuss it here. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Fonts: web browsers don't render "Courier"
by Felix Miata 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

I last updated Factory yesterday. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesL.html is intended to show something radically different when an indicated font is not installed. I've specified in CSS as follows for proportional fonts: 1-indicated font 2-courier 3-courier new 4-monospace and for fixed pitch fonts 1-indicated font 2-serif On Gecko, Opera & Konq this used to work as expected, as it does on 10.2, rendering a courier if the indicated proportional font was not available. Recently Konq & Gecko started providing substitutes for Courier. Opera still uses (Adobe) Courier, but FF2 is rendering the monospace browser default, while Konq is rendering in DejaVu Sans Mono regardless of browser default monospace selection. In 10.2, fc-match courier returns cour.pfa: "Courier" "Regular" while the same thing in factory returns nothing. To get Courier on Factory using Konq or Firefox requires either "Courier Std" or "Adobe Courier" be declared by the page's CSS. I'd file a bug if I knew some intended behavior was not at work here. I suspect this is not intended, except for substituting DejaVu when Vera is explicitly requested. Are web authors who want some form of Courier to be used now supposed to explicitly list all the following font-family: courier, "courier new", "adobe courier", "courier std"... in order for a web browser to use one of them instead of the browser's monospace default? Should fontconfig be serving up adobe courier or courier std when naked courier is requested? -- "Let us not love with words or in talk only. Let us love by what we do." 1 John 3:18 NLV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] moneyplex 2008 / 2007 and SUSE-Edition stopped working last week
by Felix Möller 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Hi, I am writing to the list one the one hand to make everybody aware that moneyplex stopped working sometime in the last [two] week. But on the other hand: I hope somebody has the same problem and maybe found a workaround or solution. Starting moneyplex right now hangs with the splash screen and uses 100% CPU. It was working on the 12. March the last time for me so the update which caused this regression cannot be older than two weeks. Any idea? The SUSE-Version of moneyplex does not work, my original CD with moneyplex 2007 stopped working and my updated moneyplex 2008 shows the same problem ... I did open a bug at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=371870. Thanks alot Felix Möller --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [Rodrigo Moya] [opensuse-factory] XGL settings in yast
by Rodrigo Moya 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

resending to the list, sorry On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 17:56 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 14:00 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: > > > Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > > > We have now patched gnome-xgl-settings to not contain any configuration > > > > at all (it just calls ccsm for all config), so it is now just a simple > > > > frontend to gnome-xgl-switch. > > > > O-key. Does it still test the graphics card against the database, i.e. > > does it verify whether Xgl / AIGLX will be able to run on this card at > > all? > > > yes > > > > > I've been asking and it seems compiz users in KDE use the same ugly > > > > gnome-xgl-settings, so we've been discussing (in #opensuse-factory and > > > > -gnome) about having this functionality (calling, or doing what, > > > > gnome-xgl-switch does) in YAST. The alternatives being, a) keep > > > > gnome-xgl-settings, and b) have a per-desktop solution. For b), in GNOME > > > > we would add a 'Desktop effects' tab to the appearance capplet, like > > > > Ubuntu does > > > > This is no in our realm, if the KDE and Gnome guys agree on having this > > in Yast, this would be awesome. OTOH we should be aware that with Yast > > we do explicitly NOT mean sax2. > > > hmm, I was really talking about sax2, although I see it might confuse > people there, so, are you proposing a 'Desktop effects' yast module ? > > > > > Not sure if as a separate module, or just under the Display config in > > > > YAST, since it's just one button ("Enable XGL"). > > > > Hm. IMHO this requires too much low-level knowledge. > > > > I would consider the best solution to have a switch for "Enable Desktop > > Effects", and then some sub-option (with reasonable defaults filled it > > depending on the graphics card) to select between a) "Xgl" and > > b) "AIGLX / Native Support" (if you want to be perfect about this, write > > "Native Support" for nvidia, "AIGLX" for all others). So users who care > > about the technical foundation can choose, and for all others it's clear > > that this is not important to look upon. > > > > The next question is: should this be a system-wide configuration or a > > per-user configuration? If Xgl is selected, this just *has* to be > > system-wide, using Xgl without compiz doesn't make any sense at all, and > > is typically slower than with using compiz. OTOH with AIGLX/Native this > > could be a per-user option. > > > > I don't know how to solve this issue in a way that it is understandable > > for a typical not-too-technical user. But as most systems are run as > > single-user machines anyway, this is probably a no-brainer, and we > > should just go for system-wide settings. > > > yes, I also think so, I think it should be part of the normal X > configuration (that's why I was thinking in sax2 rather than yast) -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Terrence T. Turtle dreams of going to Cayman Islands (geocaching, bug #371720)
by Lukas Ocilka 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

jdd sur free napsal(a): > Lukas Ocilka a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I've just filed a new bug: "Terrence T. Turtle dreams of going to Cayman >> Islands" > ... > what does this have to do with opensuse? Frankly, it seems that it sadly has less than I thought. Widening and better cooperation across the current community is my goal but until now, a lot of my attempts have failed. In my opinion, having only geeks in the community will not help at all. But how to find them, when geeks often know only another geeks? I saw this as such an opportunity and "having fun" a bit, of course. Lukas

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[opensuse-factory] Terrence T. Turtle dreams of going to Cayman Islands (geocaching, bug #371720)
by Lukas Ocilka 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Hi, I've just filed a new bug: "Terrence T. Turtle dreams of going to Cayman Islands" See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=371720 Please, help me to get him there :) ;) Comments in bugzilla are welcome. Thanks and Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ano, ano. Moudry rozkaz. Sam jsem nemel v tech gratulacich jasno.

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[opensuse-factory] Heads up: grub configuration not good with latest kernel update
by Silviu Marin-Caea 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

After the update of the kernel in Factory, the system does not boot. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=356500 To make it boot again, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and replace the line that looks like this root (/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3160812AS_4LS28FNQ-part4) with something that looks like this: root(hd0,3) # change accordingly to your bootable partition --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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