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[opensuse-factory] IDE ext3 - recovering journal after normal reboot
by Felix Miata 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

Anyone else noticed this lately? I've not figured out a pattern suitable for filing any bug, but it may be first boot on newly installed kernel, possibly only when using legacy IDE on amd74xx or piix. My last /var/log/boot.msg is at http://fm.no-ip.com/tmp/SUSE/Factory/boot.msg-gx150 using 32 bit kernel-pae-2.6.27.7-3. -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Anyone got jack to work?
by Sid Boyce 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

I soon hope to play with SDR (Software Defined Radio) and it seems jack could be helpful with that stuff. Do apps have to be jack aware? "qjackctl" says it's connected and "Rolling", but I lose sound in skype while it's running. # aplay /home/lancelot/.echolinux/connect.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused aplay: main:590: audio open error: Connection refused Messages:- 03:07:15.352 Patchbay deactivated. 03:07:15.403 Statistics reset. 03:07:15.953 ALSA connection graph change. 03:07:19.809 ALSA connection change. 03:07:24.406 Startup script... 03:07:24.406 artsshell -q terminate 03:07:25.904 Startup script terminated with exit status=256. 03:07:25.904 JACK is starting... 03:07:25.904 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 03:07:25.908 JACK was started with PID=26323. jackd 0.109.2 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. apparent rate = 48000 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for playback 03:07:28.140 Server configuration saved to "/root/.jackdrc". 03:07:28.141 Statistics reset. 03:07:28.256 Client activated. 03:07:28.257 JACK connection change. 03:07:28.333 JACK connection graph change. 03:07:58.323 Transport start. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] IDE ext3 - recovering journal after normal reboot
by Quentin Jackson 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 01:12 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Friday, 2008-11-28 at 23:47 -0000, Sid Boyce wrote: > > > Whenever I have suffered corruptions, it has always been down to faulty > > hardware that would have clobbered every partition. > > I, on the other hand, have suffered disk data corruption that affected > only one or two partitions. Several times. Once I lost entirely an XFS > partition, unrecoverable: a bug on the XFS repair program impeded data > recovery (and they took more than a year to solve it). If all my data had > been on a single partition, I'd have lost all data. OK, now I'm worried about upgrading my Software RAID XFS system from 11.0! :) Q > > - -- > Cheers, > Carlos E. R. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkwiOsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WjuQCfRyKdzOlwC5KnTxY8aaUXEPOQ > yvEAn3Gt+XB9e5Z8fbtUhj3YWd4QwLfa > =8KnP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] XFS Boot Problem
by Quentin Jackson 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 01:58 +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Sid Boyce wrote: > >> I am confused, I have a single xfs partition sda1 for root and boot and > >> I haven't experienced any booting problems. > > Same here, perhaps we are the ones called "lucky". > > I had /boot (or / in case of no extra /boot) on XFS for what must have > been two years, too, and can confirm you're just lucky. As I was during > most of those two years. > > My experience matches Stano's statement: You may be lucky, you may be not > -- ultimately it's going to hit, so just don't do it. ;-) OK, I'll look to change to a seperate /boot partition on my next build. I think 100MB is big enough from what I read. Thanks everyone! Q > > Gerald > -- > Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp(a)novell.com SUSE Linux Products GmbH > Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg) > openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] XFS Boot Problem
by Quentin Jackson 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 01:19 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday, 2008-11-29 at 10:39 +1300, Quentin Jackson wrote: > > >> I do have a problem with encripted XFS filesystem and big file writes: it > >> crashes the entire filesystem. The machine has to be rebooted, and some > >> partitions can not be umounted first. The reboot command locks. > > > > That's interesting, how big is big? Might make me change my mind at > > some point when I take all those Mini DV tapes and put them into my raid > > array. :) > > More than 100 MiB :-) > > But please note that the word "encrypted". A plain XFS filesystem is safe. OK, thanks, and I now note the encrypted part :) I have tons of multi-GB files bigger than that on the plain XFS partition (currently 4x1TB SATA drives) with linux software RAID. Works sweet! Q > > - -- > Cheers, > Carlos E. R. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkwiogACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WkQwCeOlmoKbvIoI8Kc9hK050MAMGV > 6U8AmwXN0Ivxgn/nzTCN8jsZatN+2D24 > =qPpx > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] XFS Boot Problem
by Quentin Jackson 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:11 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday, 2008-11-29 at 09:45 +1300, Quentin Jackson wrote: > > > actually make a small /boot partition that isn't XFS. I switched to XFS > > cause I got sick of manually repairing file systems and since switching > > about 12 months ago I have not had a single problem on any computer so > > I'm reluctant to go back to ext or reiser. I bet lots of people will > > say that don't have any/many problems with ext3 but my experience is > > otherwise :) > > I do have a problem with encripted XFS filesystem and big file writes: it > crashes the entire filesystem. The machine has to be rebooted, and some > partitions can not be umounted first. The reboot command locks. That's interesting, how big is big? Might make me change my mind at some point when I take all those Mini DV tapes and put them into my raid array. :) Q > > - -- > Cheers, > Carlos E. R. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkwXnQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UA5QCdEFKSuCYyNMOmNlghP554eQkR > LZEAoJH9TJqhd3/088qYeHsfFDhyZ3QC > =L3Jm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] which rsync-able factory mirrors are valid? WAS: 11.1 rc1 is there
by Toni Harbaugh-Blackford 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

So if ftp5.gwdg.de isn't valid, which publically rsync-able 11.1--RC1 mirrors *are* valid? How do you tell if a 'repo' mirror is valid? Thanks, Toni -----Original Message----- From: Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> To: Toni Harbaugh-Blackford <teelynn19(a)aim.com> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 1:35 am Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] 11.1 rc1 is there Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieben Sie: > Is > > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/11.1-RC1/ > going to be updated so that it *is* RC1? > I'm not maintaining that mirror Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] IDE ext3 - recovering journal after normal reboot
by Quentin Jackson 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 15:52 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone else noticed this lately? I've not figured out a pattern suitable for > filing any bug, but it may be first boot on newly installed kernel, possibly > only when using legacy IDE on amd74xx or piix. My last /var/log/boot.msg is > at http://fm.no-ip.com/tmp/SUSE/Factory/boot.msg-gx150 using 32 bit > kernel-pae-2.6.27.7-3. > -- > "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand > its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ I don't mean to be too contentious, but these are the reasons I switched to XFS. I would actually prefer to be ext3 since it's more common. Just my 2c :) Q -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] XFS Boot Problem
by Quentin Jackson 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 16:22 +0000, Sid Boyce wrote: > Dave Plater wrote: > > Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: > >> On Friday 28 November 2008 06:55:38 Quentin Jackson wrote: > >> > >>> Anyone know why RC1 suddenly says it won't boot if I make /boot and XFS > >>> partition? I've been running XFS as a /boot partition since 10.3 with > >>> no problems and never noticed this message before. I'm installing now > >>> and don't know if it will or won't work but will let everyone know. > >>> > >>> I presume there is a change in code that has meant this message now > >>> presents itself? > >>> > >> This is part of our push for bootloader configuration stabilization, there are > >> quite some more checks for what are corner cases and bad practices. Thanks, now I know that it is just a message. > >> > >> AFAIK if you are able to boot on XFS, you are being lucky, as under some > >> conditions boot might fail (bootloader code might not fit into the space in > >> the XFS partition). Thus, YaST will put there a message that /boot directory > >> has to be on ext2/ext3/reiserfs. It's fine to use XFS on / if you have a > >> separate partition for /boot > >> > >> You still have an option to install the bootloader on your own. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Stano > >> > >> > > I am confused, I have a single xfs partition sda1 for root and boot and > > I haven't experienced any booting problems. > > Regards > > Dave P > > > > Same here, perhaps we are the ones called "lucky". > Regards > Sid. Yeah, looks to me like it works more often than not but there may be a case where it doesn't work. I think the error message saying it WILL not work should be changed to MAY not work. Or perhaps instead of using one XFS partition and putting /boot and / everything else in it I could actually make a small /boot partition that isn't XFS. I switched to XFS cause I got sick of manually repairing file systems and since switching about 12 months ago I have not had a single problem on any computer so I'm reluctant to go back to ext or reiser. I bet lots of people will say that don't have any/many problems with ext3 but my experience is otherwise :) Thanks for the info everyone! Q > -- > Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support > Specialist, Cricket Coach > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Cholla font
by Rastislav Krupanský 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

Hi all. Project for designing a replacement for the openSUSE “headline” font Cholla by Jakub Steiner was chosen as a winner from Hack Week. Thus, i´m wondering whether it won´t be used by default instead Sans Serif for openSUSE 11.1. Or do you have any plan for using Cholla font elsewhere? Thanks Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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