September 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-factory] ScreenSavers
by Dominique Leuenberger 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

>>> Reply on 14-09-2006 16:48:45 <<<> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:44:33PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > > > > >>> Reply on 14-09-2006 16:43:35 <<<> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at > > 03:41:40PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > a thing that many of my friends / family members miss about Linux > > is > > > > the availability of nice and nifty screen savers. > > > > > > > > What would you think about integrating the Really Slick > > Screensavers > > > > Port to GLX into openSUSE? > > > > Or is it already there and I just did not find it? > > > > > > What about xscreensaver? > > > > > > It has many screensavers :) > > > > Marucs, > > > > yes, it has... you're absolutely right. But I was more talking about > > nify, good looking, stunnig ones (openGL based) > > It also has some GL ones, but not much ;) > > Ciao, Marcus > Maybe you can just have a look at the two sites: [1] http://somewhere.fscked.org/fireflies/ [2] http://rss-glx.sourceforge.net/ Some very nice looking ones. Who knows...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ScreenSavers
by Dominique Leuenberger 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Resent to the list, because the MailAdmin Program denied it ?!? >>> Reply on 14-09-2006 17:29:37 <<<> Am Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 15:49 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger: > > Maybe you can just have a look at the two sites: > > [1] http://somewhere.fscked.org/fireflies/ > That one looks pretty close to the (basically) default screensaver we > use for > KDE actually. > > > [2] http://rss-glx.sourceforge.net/ > The screenshots there look interesting indeed. Solarwinds is the only > one we > already have (for KDE). I guess I'll look into it >From this one I especially like Skyrocket and Helios. Have a look in it and who knows, maybe we got something new for openSUSE 10.x Dominique

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ScreenSavers
by Dominique Leuenberger 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

>>> Reply on 14-09-2006 16:43:35 <<<> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:41:40PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > a thing that many of my friends / family members miss about Linux is > > the availability of nice and nifty screen savers. > > > > What would you think about integrating the Really Slick Screensavers > > Port to GLX into openSUSE? > > Or is it already there and I just did not find it? > > What about xscreensaver? > > It has many screensavers :) Marucs, yes, it has... you're absolutely right. But I was more talking about nify, good looking, stunnig ones (openGL based)

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[opensuse-factory] ScreenSavers
by Dominique Leuenberger 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Hi everybody, a thing that many of my friends / family members miss about Linux is the availability of nice and nifty screen savers. What would you think about integrating the Really Slick Screensavers Port to GLX into openSUSE? Or is it already there and I just did not find it? Regards, Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OOo on PPC
by Peter Czanik 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Hello, Is there any reason for not having OpenOffice.org on factory PPC? The best test is, when the testing subject is used for everyday work, but without OOo it's next to impossible for me... Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2
by Stefan Dirsch 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Hi I try to summarize the discussion on Games on openSUSE 10.2. I think we agree, that we should still include games in our default installation and provide a Games pattern for all games (check for RPM group 'games', Andreas) on our distribution. Additionally there are some games which would be nice to have on our distribution or in the buildservice. Games for default Installation: ------------------------------- GNOME:gnome-games KDE:kdegames (kmines,kpat) KDE:knights KDE:ksudoku chromium frozen-bubble freeciv lbreakout supertux xmoto This would mean that we no longer include enigma in the default installation, but add ksudoku, chromium and lbreakout on the other side. All the other games were in default of 10.1 as well. Nice to have on distribution and/or in buildservice: ---------------------------------------------------- Ri-Li (very cute!) fretsonfire (cool stuff!) Metal Blob Solid - Blob Wars Various Frontends for nethack (again), e.g. Vulture's Eye BillardGL (but we already have Foobillard!) Scorched3D Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Mockups: Installation openSUSE 10.x by Azerion
by Azerion 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Goodday, having doubs about the look of the installer at the moment and the effect of it on Joe Average, I went into my own brain and thought what should be changed. I promised AJ some mockups and the first two screens can be reviewed and commented. I still need a set of logo's I can use so there is in those 2 screens a lot of room at the top. Don't worry, that will be filled :-D It has to be a bit mure spicy but I think the idea is okey. Check out she screens from default and advanced. I guess changing the background can make a lot of difference in how boring (or not) it looks. Some points: - do not show options that are not used by the mainstream (80%) and the user should not know of. (Acpi, apic and safe mode (I guess)) - do show the option the user should know (memory check could be discussed, openSUSE repair have to be shown so people will try if openSUSE goes down) - If Memory Check is transfered to Advanced then Repair can be directly under the first 2 options. - do not say openSUSE 10.3 every time, people know what version they are installing. - Do say Repair openSUSE 10.3(!) cause fixing 10.2 of 10.4 with it can make te troubles worse and is not recommend. - Add some simple text, so user won't feel like they are diving into the deep alone. For some reason they can do a lot of stuff themselfs while they refuse to do so if there is no text at all (the info that is now in the info column is an intresting point to intergrate in next mockups :-) ) - Info button has to be added, forgot that one. ps. SUSE green is a professional looking color in an install. Changing the background to blue makes it a playground-look. Weird color-psychologica. Background probably have to be replaced anyway so I don't worry about that at this moment. Please give your comments and remember that not everybody knows what APIC, ACPI and so on is. Think like you're grandmother and it will be a good point of view. I know it is going far cause she probably never saw an installationscreen in her live, but most new openSUSE-users will not use their brains either cause Linux is 'different' (change IE icons for Firefox icon and see what happens with you're mum/wife ot whoever) At this moment it is not about colors but about text-design http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9178/installationbootscreendefaultev5.jpg http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9601/installationbootscreenadvancedsy2.j… Azerion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Workaround for USB mouse bug - chaotic mouse
by Terje J. Hanssen 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

According to ------- Comment #24 from mhopf(a)novell.com 2006-09-13 06:24 MST ------- This was a temporary glitch in hwinfo. Fixed in STABLE. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=203609 As the released 10.2 x64 Alpha4 CD isos installation did cause an unuseable desktop (comments #22 and #23) I wonder: * Will there be a fixed CD1 iso for download and reinstallation ? * Alternatively what to download and how to update the fixed packages (wget and rpm -Uvh from the console mode)? Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation
by Terje J. Hanssen 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > The general policy with LCD displays HAS TO be: "lowest frequencies" at > recognized resolutions. > I.e. 1024x768@60Hz or 1280x1024@60Hz for example. No higher frequencies during > the installation phase please, or give the user a choice. > Currently the only chance for a user in that situation is to use a lower > resolution (I have learned to always use 800x600 to survive), but this affects > readability in a bad manner. Totally unnecessary. I do agree 100% regarding this long time, stupid "Monitor out of range" problem. I also filed this a bug or RFE during the previous 10.x beta, but got replied that this wouldn't be fixed (hardcoded info or something!?). And this problem has existed as long as I've used SuSE based distros, i.e I did encounter this on Sun Java Desktop system based on SLES8.1, on SuSE 9.x Pro and latest 10.x. My Viewsonic VP191b LCD manages 1280x1024@75. Checking with the F key on the first SUSE installation screen shows that the correct 1280x1024 resolution is set. But if I continue with this, soon after the monitor runs "Out of Range" and one have to start from scratch again. The reason I've found out is that the frequences is set too high, 85 Hz which my monitor cannot manage! The only workaround (for us that know it) to come further with the installation is to manually change to the lower 1024x768 resolution. I verified this earlier during the later, listed hardware configuration, where the monitor was set to 1280x1024@85Hz, and had change it to (LCD) 1280x1024@75Hz (SaX2) before finishing the configuration. And now this does not only affect SUSE distros. The new GUI installation of the latest Ubuntu 6.0.6 (which for me looks to mostly have copied SUSE's first installation screen), does cause the same Monitor out of range problem! On the other hand, when I previous installed SkoleLinux based on Debian's text menu's on the same hardware, no monitor problem arised. Login to KDE after this installation showed that the correct 1280x1024@75Hz had been set. So obvisiously it looks to be possible to grab the right values. Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Pre-Beta Beta comments
by Keith Goggin 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

I know there is still one alpha to go but here are my pre-beta beta comments :-) 1.The colour contrast on the initial (Splash?) screen is such that the F1 through F5 tabs are difficult to see. 2.Would it be reasonable to have the CD tray open automatically when the next CD is required? 3.Would it be reasonable to link the default keyboard and language to the Country selected? For example: UK > UK English > UK Keyboard USA > US English > US Keyboard Australia & New Zealand > UK English > US Keyboard etcetera 4.In the KDE environment once the install is complete the user is confronted with an open 'K Menu' which obscures the desktop. For me it was not immediately obvious how to close it as the Icon didn't look at all like an Icon. May I suggest K Menu default to Closed. I hope this 'look and feel' has nothing to do with that other well know beta out there :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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