On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:56:10PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Stefan Dirsch writes:

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Hi

I try to summarize the discussion on Games on openSUSE 10.2.

Thanks.

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I think we agree, that we should still include games in our default installation and provide a Games pattern for all games (check for RPM group 'games', Andreas) on our distribution. Additionally there are some games which would be nice to have on our distribution or in the buildservice.

Games for default Installation: ------------------------------- GNOME:gnome-games KDE:kdegames (kmines,kpat) KDE:knights KDE:ksudoku chromium frozen-bubble freeciv lbreakout supertux xmoto

We can also add to the pattern a list of suggestions, meaning packages that will not get installed but users can choose from, so the other recommendations could be added as suggestions.

I'll create the above pattern the next days (after Alpha4),

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Stefan Dirsch a écrit :

I would like to hear proposals by all of you for such a list. Just name your favorite games on the distribution.

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* Stefan Dirsch [2006-09-10 12:58]:

I would like to hear proposals by all of you for such a list. Just name your favorite games on the distribution.

ksirtet (Tetris game of KDE) Bernhard -- Ich sag's ja, ...diese abolut warmduschende Meute von "Vollquotern" steigt. -- Clemens Wohld in suse-linux

Stefan Dirsch writes:

On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:52:19PM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:

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* Stefan Dirsch [2006-09-10 12:58]:

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I would like to hear proposals by all of you for such a list. Just name your favorite games on the distribution.

ksirtet (Tetris game of KDE)

--> kdegames3-arcade, seems to be recommended (Prc) via KDE-Games when KDE is chosed as Desktop.

BTW, Andreas, what's the difference between Prc and Psg in patterns? Prq seems to be 'required'. Prc is 'recommended'? Psg is 'suggested'?

Yes, that's correct. Or in other words: Prq=must have, Prc=should have, Psg=might have. Prq/Prc are installed by default, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 12:58:59PM +0200, Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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We can also add to the pattern a list of suggestions, meaning packages that will not get installed but users can choose from, so the other recommendations could be added as suggestions.

I would like to hear proposals by all of you for such a list. Just name your favorite games on the distribution. I'm sure some of our games are played more often than others. I would like to sort out the games, which are not that popular, and therefore should not be added as suggestion IMHO. My favorites (besides the one above) are:

BASS FOTAQ glest/glest-data scummvm torcs/torcs-data

Since I didnt't hear any other proposals besides games, which are already in the default installation (kpat/ksirtet) or not existing yet/any more (gcompris), I will now add only these as Suggests. Let me know if you think we should add more than these. Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 06:40:52PM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:

Onsdag 06 september 2006 18:16 skrev Stefan Dirsch:

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Games for default Installation: ------------------------------- GNOME:gnome-games KDE:kdegames (kmines,kpat) KDE:knights KDE:ksudoku chromium frozen-bubble freeciv lbreakout supertux xmoto

Great default selection I think.

Well, it's the conlusion of what we've discussed. Nothing more.

How can lbreakout popularity surprise you? 95% of people between 25 and 55 has a latent addiction of breakout games ;-)

Can you give me any pointers for such numbers? Would be interesting to know, which kind of games are popular. I don't think we ever made a survey about this. Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:12:09PM +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:

Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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How can lbreakout popularity surprise you? 95% of people between 25 and 55 has a latent addiction of breakout games ;-)

Can you give me any pointers for such numbers? Would be interesting to know, which kind of games are popular. I don't think we ever made a survey about this.

I hope I don't give away something confidential if I say that the most popular game @suse.cz is the "Enemy Territory" ;)

http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/file/Enemy_Territory;14408 http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/et/

But the ET would increase size of the minimal selection quite a lot :))))) zzz

Again. We don't plan to to ship any FPS games. Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org