March 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [opensuse-factory] suse xp home sp2?
by Robison, Jonathon (M.) 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

Best uses an .exe file. Jonathon M. Robison Infrastructure Architect ET, ITI 313-323-9529 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Schiele [mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:28 AM To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] suse xp home sp2? On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 05:03:59PM +0100, houghi wrote: > If I see program.py I know it will run with Linux once I have python > installed. If I see program.exe, I know that it does NOT run with Linux. Nonsense. It suggests that it might be a PE file which it actually _is_ and that you can run it once you have Mono installed. > Again, the extention is there for the benefit of the user. *.exe > confuses people and will make them take the wrong action, like not > running the program or deleting the program. People don't need to run this program manually anyway and if they start deleting files they don't understand, they are lost anyway. > For Linux no suffix is the right suffix. For Linux an additional file permission should be invented: Stooge-Hidden. You set this permission on every file that average user does not understand. The flag does hide the file from the average user, because otherwise average user will cry at you for multiple weeks if they see the file, which might start to become pretty annoying. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

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Why so few sheets in the install?
by Azerion 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

While not be able to see the sheets in action, I have found them on the bootdisk. And as soon I saw the content of the folder I thought: What? So few sheets? The install takes longer then 40 minutes. And we probably use 5 of them.... We have the ideal opportunity to introduce SUSE Linux to new users (other users don't watch it anyway) and all I see is some general information. "You can chat, you can paint, you can fax and this all supported by Novell"..... Why don't we use the sheets in a way the users is attracted to read them? Learning the new users some programs the can use. See it as a movie-trailer that promotes the movie. My proposal is that we promote/explain some key-programs/features of SUSE Linux. Introduce the packagemanager/updater, show some XGL screenshots so they are amazed (even when it is not available for their PC). Make people feel fuzzy for SUSE Linux... This is just a 'brain-fart' so it is not ideal, but it is MORE then we have now. Users allready know they can contact MSN-buddies and they can email. They don't know how slick the programs are. We have enough disk-space, please lets use some of it for more images and more information/sheets..... (otherwise dump some stuff from cd1 to 2 :P) Azerion

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Overload: parse-metadata
by Azerion 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

process: parse-metadata 600m virtual memory 194m memory (that makes about 50-65% of my memory) What does it do, when does it do it and why do we have a process that almost kills my PC? Really, you cant work with it being active. Azerion

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Yast2 in beta8 still istalling wrong $ARCH packages
by Eberhard Moenkeberg 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

Hi, I just have learned that the current factory YaST2 still has the bug to install packets for a wrong $ARCH. Bug 157501 Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke(a)gwdg.de, em(a)kki.org)

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Factory & y2pmsh: fetching <package> - ERROR(Media:file not found)
by Tobias Burnus 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

Hello, I tried the Factory tree and using y2pmsh I get for several packages such messages: fetching suse-release (4.4 kB) *** failed: ERROR(Media:file not found)[HTTP return code: 404 (URL: http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/su…)] fetching yast2-bootfloppy (69.2 kB) *** failed: ERROR(Media:file not found)[HTTP return code: 404 (URL: http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/su…)] fetching susehelp_de (27.3 kB) *** failed: ERROR(Media:file not found)[HTTP return code: 404 (URL: http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/su…)] Is it normal for Factory that the avilable *rpm and the package data used by y2pmsh mismatch? Tobias

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Auto detection screen-resolution for install
by Azerion 12 Mar '06

12 Mar '06

At this moment you can, in the install-bootscreen, select what resolution you want to use. As being a 'not total-noob' I know that I have to select the proper resolution for my screen. But I guess new users don't see that option and they end up with an install-screen that is to small (or deformed) and does have a refreshrate less then 60. We have to fix that problem, and there are a few options (maybe more then 2?): 1.) Auto-detection, don't know i that is possible but I assume so. 2.) A 'pop-up' question so people will set the proper resolution. 3.) Use 1024x768 as default. Most people will have a minimum resolution like that allready, but it would still not be 'the end' and 'final solution' /me is checking SUSE Linux as a noob ATM and things like this are not noob-friendly. ps. cannot test if setup auto-detects cause of a bug that is allready reported. >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=157376 But seeing that option makes me assume it does not. Azerion

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Having a touchpad and a trackball - only on set-up
by Azerion 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

It's me (again), Once I had a laptop and installed SUSE Linux 10.0. I used a trackball but it had also a touchpad. As being a left-handed user I tried to change the settings to 'left-handed'. Problem was that only one of the two (dont know which one) was set-up as being 'left-handed', the other was still 'right-handed'. Could someone check this in SUSE Linux 10.1? I do not have a laptop anymore. Things to check: 1.) Can you configure the touchpad and trackball seperated? 2.) If not (would be not so fine), is the change of settings applied to both of the devices? If not, we probably need a bugreport.... Azerion

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How to write the log to harddisk while installing?
by Azerion 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

Hey, as noob-tester I have an old computer with old hardware (seems to be related). While installing beta6 there were some problems, but some of them makes the PC hang or stop the process before everything that is needed for typing into root-console F2 is loaded/set. This makes that I have to write the log directly to the harddisk so it won't be erased by reboot. Asked in IRC but there is everybody sleeping, and could not find it on the net. 2 major problems that makes my PC hang or makes the install hang are: 1.) have to use VESA-mode otherwise PC hangs right after setting the yast-collums cuase thre probably are to much of them (screen blank, keyboard locked) 2.) network install makes yast hang with the error >> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Can't find those bugs in bugzilla but need logs before I really can search and post if they not exist yet. Azerion

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gcc 3.x compatibility package
by Jens Siebert 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

Hi there, does anybody know of a compatibility package of gcc version 3.x for Suse 10.x ? I've looked into the opensuse repositories but only found a compat-g77 package. Is there something similar for the C compiler? I need this for an older program which doesn't compile with gcc 4.x. Greetings Jens Siebert

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Releasesnotes before hardware Configuration
by Azerion 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

Could someone tell me why the releasesnotes are shown before the hardware-configuration? I always thought that release-notes where shown at the end. Can it be replaced or does it have a function in this order? Azerion

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