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Bug in fontrendering system ?
by Rainer Krienke 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

Hello, sorry this is a little lengthy but the bug is a little hard to describe... I have a problem that I guess is in the fontrendering of XFree86. I run a suse9.0 desktop machine as well as a suse9.0 laptop both with Xfree 4.3.0.1 but I also tried the last stable release 4.3.0 (from suse8.2). The desktop has a resolution of 1280x1024 at 90x96 DPI (xdpyinfo). The display size value was determined by the X-Server and seems to be correct when I measure my display size and calucate the DPi on my own the result is the same. The laptop has 1400x1050 pixel at 124x124 DPI (xdpyinfo). In this case the server could not determine the display size so I measured the display (285mmx215mm) and calculated the DPI and wrote a DisplaySize Option in my XF86Config file. The strange thing I observed now is that in WYSIWYG applications like Staroffice and koffice identical fonts (tried Thorndale and Times-New-Roman) seem to have different dimensions on the screen depending on the machine the text is displayed on. On one system they seem to be some percent wider. In eg a presentation document this leads to the very annoying fact, that on one system eg some text is displayed on one line and on the other system the same text is broken up into two lines. Actually its not only the same text, and the very same document but also the same linux system with identical Staroffice and Koffice and Xfree installations. As a result the complete layout of such a document can change if the same document is displayed on another (as far as software is concerned) "identical" system. You can take a look at this effect with two screenshots I made. The first show the document on my desktop, the second on my laptop (each graphic is about 40KBytes): http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke/xfree/xfreebug90x96dpi.jpg http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke/xfree/xfreebug124x124dpi.jpg I first thought this might be a trouble of the Beta Version of Xfree that came with suse9.0 and compiled XFree86-4.3.0-111 used in suse8.2 on my system and installed it on both machines. Now again on each seperate machine the linebreaks changed compared to the suse9.0 Xfree version, but unfortunately the very same document still shows different linebreaks on both systems. Another effekt is that graphics placed somewhere on the page (not anchored in the paragraph) are really always at the same position but the text around them varies due to the different fontrendering. I also tought if this could be a staroffice bug (actually this was my first thought), but since koffice shows the same problem, I think it is not. Everybody who has two machines with different display resolutions should be able to reproduce this bug. Just Create a A4 landscape document, use large fonts (eg 32 points) write a long line of text across the page save the document and then take a look at the linebreaks on both systems using the local displays of each machine. As far as I can say this is a problem of the fontscaling machine but I have no clue if it is really a bug or perhaps a misconfiguration of my system? Anyone any idea? Any advice is welcome. If someone needs more information I'll try to provide it. Thanks for any help Rainer -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Krienke, Universitaet Koblenz, Rechenzentrum, Raum A022 Universitaetsstrasse 1, 56070 Koblenz, Tel: +49 261287 -1312, Fax: -1001312 Mail: krienke(a)uni-koblenz.de, Web: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke Get my public PGP key: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke/mypgp.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mac Power PC with SuSE
by Bob Sheck 15 Nov '03

15 Nov '03

I have managed to figure out most all the little details of managing this project. The one thing I have not found out how to do is getting the floppy disk to eject? Any assistance is welcome TIA~ Bob Bob Sheck // Greenville, NC // bobsheck(a)earthlink.net

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Problem with varying font dimensions on different machines with identical systems
by Rainer Krienke 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

Hello, I have a problem I guess is XF86 based that I do not underdstand. I run a suse9.0 desktop as well as a suse9.0 laptop. The desktop has a resolution of 1280x1024 at 90x94 DPI (xdpyinfo). This value is correct when I take the resolution and divide it by the the dimension of the screen. The laptop has 1400x1050 pixel at 124x124 DPi (xdpyinfo) and this is also the correct value. The strange thing I observed now is that in applications like Staroffice or koffice identical fonts seem to have different dimensions. On one system they seem to be some percent wider. In eg. a presentation document this leads to the very annoying fact, that on one system eg some text is displayed on one line and on the other system the same text is broken up into two lines. Actually its not only the same text, butthe very same document with identical So or koffice versions on both systems. So the complete layout can change if the same document is displayed on the other (as far as software is concerned "identical") system. I first thought this might be a trouble of the Beta Version of Xfree that came with suse9.0 and compiled XFree86-4.3.0-111 used in suse8.2 on my system and installed it on both machines. Now again on each seperate machine the linebreaks changed compared to the suse9.0 Xfree version, but unfortunately the very same document still shows different linebreaks on both systems. Another effekt is that graphics placed somewhere on the page (not anchored in the paragraph) are really always at the same position but the text around them varies due to the different fontrendering. This makes porting a presentation or other text documents to another system a real pain :-( As far as I can say this is a problem of the fontscaling machine but I have no clue if its really a bug or perhaps a misconfiguration of my system. Anyone any idea? Any advice is welcome. If someone needs more information I'll tzry to provide it. In the document I tried both the staroffice internal Font Thorndale as well the MS True Type Font Times New Roman. With both the effect remains the same. Thanks in advandce for any help Rainer -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Krienke, Universitaet Koblenz, Rechenzentrum, Raum A022 Universitaetsstrasse 1, 56070 Koblenz, Tel: +49 261287 -1312, Fax: -1001312 Mail: krienke(a)uni-koblenz.de, Web: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke Get my public PGP key: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke/mypgp.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[suse-xfree86] How to use 3D acce. X-Server with Asus A7n8x + radeon 9700
by henning dey 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

hi there, got a Asus Motherboard A7N8X-Deluxe and a Sapphire Radeon 9700. I am using Suse 9.0 with installed driver and tested the driver from Ati´s website.. both don´t seem to work with 3Daccel XServer. somebody got a clue?

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DRI i810 and SuSE 9.0
by Chris TenHarmsel 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

Hi, I have SuSE 9.0 running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 1100) with the Intel Extreme Graphics chip (i845g I think). When I had Mandrake 9.0, the drivers from intel's website, and the ones from the DRI (dri.sf.net) project bothh worked great. When I try to install these same drivers in SuSE 9.0, X breaks. I have to install a new XFree86 binary from the DRI project with recent drivers, but the Intel.com ones are supposed to be a drop in replacement. Both drivers (from Intel and DRI project) complain about unresolved symbols in several libs in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (such as libscanpci.a and libvbe.a) and I cannot get them to work. Would anyone have any idea why this is, or be able to propose a solution to the problem? Thanks, Chris

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How can I deactivate on-board AGP adapter?
by Jean-Gabriel Duquesnoy 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

Hi, I have a motherboard from PCChips where the on-board AGP adapter is not working correctly anymore. I installed a PCI adapter which works fine. However XFree always tries to load the modules for both adapters, and crashes. How can I tell XFree not to use the AGP adapter? There is no possibility to deactivate it using jumpers on the Mainboard. Tx for the help. Jean-Gabriel Duquesnoy

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DRI i810 and SuSE 9.0
by Chris TenHarmsel 08 Nov '03

08 Nov '03

Hi, I have SuSE 9.0 running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 1100) with the Intel Extreme Graphics chip (i845g I think). When I had Mandrake 9.0, the drivers from intel's website, and the ones from the DRI (dri.sf.net) project bothh worked great. When I try to install these same drivers in SuSE 9.0, X breaks. I have to install a new XFree86 binary from the DRI project with recent drivers, but the Intel.com ones are supposed to be a drop in replacement. Both drivers (from Intel and DRI project) complain about unresolved symbols in several libs in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (such as libscanpci.a and libvbe.a) and I cannot get them to work. Would anyone have any idea why this is, or be able to propose a solution to the problem? Thanks, Chris

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