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[opensuse-wiki] Image OxygenRpmPackage.png
by Rajko M. 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

IMHO, I don't see connection between current icon for rpm packages: http://en.opensuse.org/File:OxygenRpmPackage.png and package management. Can someone help me to understand. The old version was more then clear, package with label RPM, but this one is generic Oxygen icon. Do we have to replace all icons with Oxygen in the name with this one? -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] wiki.o.o news 02/13
by Henne Vogelsang 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi, yesterday evening Matthew purged the main namespace so today i started to move content. I started with reducing the content of the Main_Page[1]. It now only points to the 3 things we have in this wiki. Information about the distribution, the project and the wiki itself. The introductions point to portals about the subjects. And thats the second thing i worked on. The Portal template[2] and Help[3] about it. What can you do to help? Of course the Portals and especially the intros could use some love. For the distribution and the project it was relatively easy to find cool sentences to glue together because we have a lot of content about those topics in the old instance. For the wiki itself it was not so easy. So go to that page[4] and fill it please. I'm also sure that we can make the design of the frontpage easier for the eye, less text'ish for instance. I will continue to work on the Portals and then go from there starting with the Help namespace because its the most important for now. Thats it for today... Henne [1] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Main_Page [2] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Template:Portal [3] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Portal [4] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki/Intro -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Wiki forum is live! (was: Re: [opensuse-wiki] New "Need consent" tag in transition table)
by Rupert Horstkötter 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

Team, 2010/2/8 Rupert Horstkötter <rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org>: > 2010/2/8 Rajko M. <rmatov101(a)charter.net>: >> I was missing such forum few times since wiki cleanup action begun. >> I'm sure that 90% of forum guys are annoyed with IRC and mail lists for some >> reason, so I vote for it and as soon as possible. >> > I just took care about that one at the team area at forums.o.o .. > should be a matter of days and we should have the wiki forum up and > running. > Done! The Wiki forum is live at http://forums.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki-discussions/ I posted a quick welcome (will be stickied) at http://forums.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki-discussions/432668-welcome-wiki-fo… to explain its final and its interims purpose. Have fun! Lemme know if you need anything, R -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Team Pages
by Rupert Horstkötter 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

Team, gnokii thought about informations that should be provided on team pages and I'd like to forward this to you in order to get more feedback before I'll reach out to the Teams asking for implementation/adoption. I CC: interested parties to make sure they're aware. So, what we'd like to achieve? Team pages are an integral part of reaching out to potential contributors and GOOD team pages encourage contributors to get involved in the Project/specific Team. Here is what gnokii prepared so far --- What information should be on team pages 1. what does the team do, tasks etc. * include the sources in the wiki 2. how is it organized -> the way to work in this team!!! 3. members of the team * important some teams sort the members after novell and community thats not good! * some teams like the boosters give all contact informations for each member there, thats not necessary. Better link to the userpage and hold each information there. 4. contact data for the team like IRC and mailing lists mor isnt necessary on the wiki pages. I would like to have point 4 on the side like the "team template" now is. And the team template on the end of the side is better. Over the contact data Iwould put a graphic that represent the team, or this I need the dimensions for it. Look after art team page, there is the graphic same size like the "team template" has. So it looks good. On one page I saw a nationality flag behind the member, thats a good idea, for connecting I would me pick a member in my language its easier --- So far for specific Team Pages .. It's all about providing the right, and ONLY the sufficient info in an accessible and common way across ALL team pages we have and integrate them under one umbrella (see below). The other thing is our "Inter-team page", i.e. listing the teams. Currently we have http://en.opensuse.org/Teams and http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Teams is what we'd like to have instead. Thanks henne! So, after all, this is a two step process: 1. Implementing/adjusting team pages 2. Listing teams at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Teams Any suggestions? Additional ideas? Best, R -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] SoftwareInfoBox
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Hello Mates, we've started the same Process like you: Reviewing of the Wiki. But i have Question. In the Amarok Article we have the "Knowledge" Macro and an selfmade SoftwareInfoBox. Both in one Article are not recommended, Should we use in this case just the Knowldege Macro? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New "Need consent" tag in transition table
by Rajko M. 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Some types of article is not defined how to handle, some are questionable and what one community member will delete, the other will preserve as community history. Some articles are transient content, like: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_Launch_Party_Locations Ditto, to speed up reviews I added that tag so that reviewer can go on while we can discuss how to handle specific type of article. This will raise questions: Where to discuss such problems? Is opensuse-project is good place, or we should go broader. Use Forums and opensuse(a)opensuse.org ?? In what namespace belongs historic material? In what namespace, or even another server to put transient content that is obsolete after the event? Where to document procedure? Is explanation of tag in tables sufficient? -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] wiki.o.o test of new functions
by Rajko M. 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

We imported pretty large body of articles from old wiki that will allow us to test wiki. Further imports will be done only if we really need article or group. What is left to upload are images that are missing so that we can really test complete page layout. Right now we have bug that prevents creation of thumbnails so we have time to upload images. The number of new features is quite large comparing to old wiki version 1.5, so we will have quite a job to test them. You can see list of features here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Version **************** First to test was CategoryTree http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree It enables editors to create list of categories and articles in categories that are available on every page on the wiki. This will allow us to have groups of articles with common navigation menu that is updated as soon as article is added to common category. Unlike current method of creating navbar (navigation bar) templates for each group of articles and updating that navbar every time new article is added, with <categorytree> tag all that wiki maintainers have to do is to ensure that new articles have proper [[Category:<nameit>]] link included at the end of article. I started to create categories from YaST related articles, then used ready to go tag from mediwiki.org to test the wiki tag <categorytree>. Some samples for preview are here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST http://wiki.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and live wiki that is using that tag is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree The "plus" widget that you can see in the mediwiki.org CategoryTree is missing in our wiki, which makes use of mode=pages problematic in: <categorytree mode=pages style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left:1ex; border:1px solid gray; padding:0.7ex; background- color:white;">YaST</categorytree> You can see on the page http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST that there is no distinction between listed category and article in that category. **************** The next in the list is Flagged Revisions. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs It is extension with a lot of options. I checked the basics. The editor/reviewer tools at the bottom of the page appear in Main and Template namespace. We are missing icons (images) for tag that is present on every page, before words/strings Unreviewed or Current revision, as well as bars in detailed view that can see user that is not logged in a wiki. The "plus" widget that is used to switch from detailed view of article status to simple is missing too. **************** The rest of extensions is not tested on a new wiki, but we know that: InputBox http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox works in a simple example on http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SDB that is the same version. There is more options in InputBox to test and see where this extension can be useful. **************** Next extension to test is DynamicPageList which is described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection From description, it can be useful to create list of articles that belong to few categories without need to create new category and add tags to all articles. **************** Conclusion: Sorting articles in categories and subcategories is very important in order to use new tools. It shifts majority of efforts on one time categorization of existing fond in the old wiki, and then export to new one category by category. New software allows us to name category and it will automatically create list of articles that are listed there, so it will be easier track transfer. The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Template Sablon:PointHere used in Weekly news
by Rajko M. 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Template Sablon:PointHere http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Sablon:PointHere used in Weekly news will be very soon removed. Please use previously existing PointHere : http://en.opensuse.org/Template:PointHere All pages that used Sablon:PointHere template, including page templates, are converted to PointHere so the only problem can be copy of this templates stored on your computer. If you see on your page multiple messages: "Template Sablon:PointHere is duplicate of template PointHere and it will be deleted eventually. Please use Template:PointHere instead. In wiki text it looks like {{PointHere}} All other Weekly News pages are already converted, including page templates, and only Weekly News templates outside this wiki en.opensuse.org, for instance on your computer, can require Sablon:PointHere." then you are trying to use Sablon:PointHere. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Navigation bar (NavBar) doesn't solve all navigation problems
by Rajko M. 04 Feb '10

04 Feb '10

NavBar is meant for single group of articles where group should be maximum to 7 articles ( http://useit.com ). Problem is when there is subtopic that needs own navbar. What we can do? 1. Add another navigational bar for that subgroup, like it is used in HCL, and have 2 navigational bars on top of the article 2. Look for another solution like category tree on side that will list category, subcategories and articles there? The second solution will require some articles to be transferred or to play with current YaST group with more articles from that group transferred on a new wiki. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] The most annoying bugs 11.3 dev on wiki
by Rastislav Krupanský 03 Feb '10

03 Feb '10

Hi. If i´d like to add some annoying bugs on wiki to prevent repeated/unnecessary reporting bugs, how is the procedure? This article is under review. The contents are currently being evaluated and edited by User:Jonathan_R. Others should not make any changes. Or can i add the most annoying bugs in M1 myself? Thanks. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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