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[opensuse-wiki] I think this needs to be cleaned up a bit more
by Jonathan Rocker 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

In this article; http://en.opensuse.org/Configuration there were a lot of external links. I removed most, but left some. Some of you might want to have a look and see if you can improve on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Usage of openSUSE(R) in the wiki
by Rupert Horstkötter 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

Zonker, actually, that's what I meant. After re-reading my (rather confusing) answer .. thanks for clarifying this :-) Michael, please get rid of all openSUSE(r) and use openSUSE instead. Thanks, R 2010/1/7 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net>: > I'd recommend getting rid of any "openSUSE(r)" instances in the wiki. > It's not really necessary there, and looks pretty ugly... > > Best, > > Zonker > > 2010/1/7 Rupert Horstkötter <rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org>: >> Michael, >> >> 2010/1/7 Michael Cheah <michael.csj(a)gmail.com>: >>> When reviewing the wiki pages for transition to the new wiki.o.o I >>> came across the use of "openSUSE®" in some articles such as this: >>> >>> http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Using_Fingerprint_Authentication >>> >>> Is this acceptable or we should simply use "openSUSE" in all the wiki pages. >>> >> It is. >> >>> Thank you. >>> >> You're welcome. Thanks for participating. >> >> Best, >> R >> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh >> openSUSE Board Member >> openSUSE Community Assistant >> http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter >> Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org >> Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org >> >> > > > > -- > Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> > About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ > -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Article reviewing - current status
by Rupert Horstkötter 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

DenverD, I push this to the list as it's (most likely accidentally) just addressed to my personal email address. That said, see my answers inline .. 2010/1/6 DenverD <DenverD(a)texan.dk>: > Rupert Horstkötter wrote: >> With the Mentoring Session one week over, I see 6 Articles "checked", >> 21 Articles "under review" and 5 Articles "not transferred". While >> this is certainly appreciated, I assume that we won't manage to go >> through http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_List in a reasonable >> timeframe if we don't accelerate this effort significantly. > > i can't speak for any others...but, the 'holidays' were joyful (yipee) > and didn't offer the reams of 'free time' i had planned to donate to > the open source/openSUSE cause...and, when i tried to dive in, i found > a few problems/challenges which severely dampened my willingness to > plunge ahead at Mach 2: > > 1. a HUGE list <http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_List> of > work--daunting, over powering and seemingly endless...chilling...a > mountain of work...i got 'tired' just trying to find something i > *wanted* to spend time with... > > and then i found an article i was willing to _begin_ with and turned > to the checklist <http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_Guidelines> of > things to do for each article--and *immediately* find instructions i > don't know how to follow, like: > > 2. in Step 1 > Format check > "Change capitalization of title page by > moving the article to the new name." ok, that is simple enough > instructions (for a Wiki Guru...which i'm not,) so i have zero idea > how to "move" the article to the new name...and, that means i can't > pick anything with a title that needs changing. (which is ok, 'cause > now _my_ list is shorter and more manageable because any article with > more than a one word title is off limits for me---waaaaaaaaaaa, what > if all the ones i wanna work on have two or more words in the title?) > Please either join #opensuse-wiki on IRC freenode for realtime support of the Wiki Team or utilize http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Message_Board to find help with specific issues you may have during Article Reviewing. > 3. same Step 1 > Format check > "Follows the openSUSE:Article > Template" > "knowledge bar" and immediately i need to know > a. how i am supposed to know (or learn) if the article has been > tested against which (if any) of the current releases?? > b. i've never actually run any 11.x more than a few minutes, so maybe > i'm not qualified to help at all--is this a task for bleeding edgers only? > c. am i to wander around in the wiki until i've filled in the list of > 'recommended articles'? > d. if i wander around and find an article to be mentioned, how do i > decide if it is a "recomended article" or a "related article" > e. i wonder if the article i'm reviewing is going to have to be > reviewed EVERY eight months, *forever*?? and, who is gonna do that? > (obviously it will have to be an 'early adopter' huh?) > Valid questions, let me try to address these: a. + b. It's perfectly fine to review the article and request extra information from others (about e.g. the Tested on thing) at http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Message_Board before you flag the Article "reviewed" c. + d. recommended/related articles have to seen as optional at first glance. You may ask (as always at IRC or the Message_Board). That said, efore the actual migrating to wiki.o.o a Wiki team member will anyway have a quick look at the reviewed article and may adopt it if you left out the knowledgebar. The distinction between the recommended and related articles is like that: recommended article is for example, if the article you review contains zypper commandline-instructions the user should be able to easily access the article that explains zypper commandline-usage. A related article deals with a comparable/related topic, like e.g. a Pidgin article may link Empathy or a Thunderbird article may link Evolution. Other than that we may have a general article about package management and related articles may be Zypper, Yast2 Package-Management and alike. So, related articles provide further (related) information while recommended articles provide information the user should read efore he's actually able to understand the article he's reading. e. This will be a usual workload in context of our new QA process at wiki.o.o, don't worry about it. > 4. same Step 1 > Format check > "Follows the openSUSE:Article > Template" > Communication > Team members, and i wonder > a. if each article needs a list of "team members"? > b. and what team? is each page supposed to have a 'team' of > originators/contributors/editors? (that wasn't mentioned in the > mentoring session i attended..) > c. so, where do i find the list of 'team members'? or, do we expect > it to grow, naturally? if i'm on that list will i still be there when > i have "moved on" in, say 50 years? > d. if there is to be a team then what about this: "This article is > under review! The contents are currently being evaluated and edited by > [[User:{{{1}}}]]. Others should not make any changes." > <http://en.opensuse.org/Template:InReview> which is not a very 'team > building' pronouncement, framed in red. > e. will each page have a 'team leader' or will each page have their > own mini-anarchy? > > 5. same Step 1 > Format check > "Follows the openSUSE:Article > Template" > Mailing list, and i wonder > a. if each article requires a mailing list be associated with it? do > some articles need two mailing lists? three? > b. what about forums--if we list related mailing lists shouldn't we > also name the related forums? > c. how do i decide which mailing list/forum should be on any > particular article? > > > see? imHo, i can do a half okay job of turning non-native > speaker/writer's or 'hacker' prose into nearly clearly usable, not > overly hacker/technical english...but, to do ALL that is expected for > any one article i have a LONG way to go to be helpful with: > > -moving wiki pages > > -wiki mark up language (sure i can learn it, eventually) [i 'know' > basic html, is there a converter? like can i feed in a finished html > page with say this and that and out pops wiki > with '''this''' > and ''that'' > which i can copy paste into a wiki editing box?] > > -develop the 'knowledge' of version specifics and recommended/related > articles > > -associating mail lists > > -following the fully ripe/mature instructions/guidelines/checklists > needed to implement the ideas/ideals decided before i stumbled in.. > Whoo, lots of specific questions: The Article template presents a general approach with information that should be given .. Certainly this does not apply (e.g. Teams) to every single article. So, as a general support from my side, just think about it that way "Does a specific thig make sense here or not?", If not: leave it out, otherwise try to fill it. We rely on your very own estimation here. If you have specific questions, please join the IRC #opensuse-wiki Channel. Those questions are way easier addressed in a realtime conversation imho. That said, thanks a lot for your engagement. Your ambitious contribution is much appreciated. Best, R > > vr, > DenverD > -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Article reviewing - current status
by Rupert Horstkötter 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Team, With the Mentoring Session one week over, I see 6 Articles "checked", 21 Articles "under review" and 5 Articles "not transferred". While this is certainly appreciated, I assume that we won't manage to go through http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_List in a reasonable timeframe if we don't accelerate this effort significantly. Two things to do: --- 1. As it seems we urgently still need more contributors to achieve the Article Reviewing --- Attempts to solve this: 1. I'll reach out to the forums again and present the Minutes of the Mentoring Session and the Transition Guidelines to gain more contributors. 2. Jon Rocker as open-slx employee will provide a significant part of his workforce into the Article Reviewing. --- 2. I'm pretty sure that approx 20% of articles get 80% of reader's attention and are therefore most interesting for the Article Reviewing at first glance. We should, from now on, focus on that 20% of articles. Remy, is it possible to identify these 20% according to page hits and advertise them at http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_List while explaining the 20%/80% thing at http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_Guidelines#Step_1_:_Articles_review ? --- Thanks, R -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] easier to edit hardware compatibility list
by DenverD 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

a poster (67GTA) to the forums, in a thread about hardware that doesn't work....about our hardware compatibility list (HCL) <http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/> wrote a probably valid and attention needing user issue with the wiki: "I think we need an easier way to edit the wiki. I would be glad to update it with each new release for my hardware, but have no idea how to use the wiki editor. I believe this would help tremendously as far as getting people to chip in with the HCL. There was a call to action by oldcpu a while back, but he wound up asking for info and editing it himself." <http://tinyurl.com/yfthhjo> i think it might be nice if there were a html form with directions, questions and blanks for users to fill in which would populate a database to produce an HCL similar to those we have now.. sure, i know that 'real' hackers have no problems editing the wiki's HCL, but that excludes about 99% of the hungry folks [aka: Redmond Refugees] showing up on the forums doorsteps daily who have never manually created a new table row in vi, emacs or even Notepad(tm).. DenverD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Umbrella Media Wiki Theme
by Michal Hrusecky 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Hi, part of the openSUSE Boosters umbrella project [1] is to make all openSUSE pages look similar. Robert created Bentoo theme [2] for this purpose and I've been working on porting it to the Media Wiki. Now it's time to publish something about it so I did that [3]. I didn't only published blog post and screenshot, but I also made a basic Media Wiki instance running on my web [4], so anybody can try it. All sources are available on gitorious [5]. Any feedback is welcome and patches are even more welcome ;-) [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Boosters_Team/Projects/Integrate_all_Infrastructure_… [2] http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OpenSUSE.org-Mockup.png [3] http://michal.hrusecky.net/index.php/blog/show/Media-Wiki-Theme---status-up… [4] http://wikitest.michal.hrusecky.net/ [5] http://gitorious.org/opensuse/webdesign -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] When visit the inexistence page, prompt database error.
by Bin Li 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Hi, When I visit the "http://cn.opensuse.org/Mirrors", the page prompt below info. Database error From openSUSE A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (LogPager)". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'opensuse_cn.tag_summary' doesn't exist (137.65.246.148:3307)". Retrieved from "http://cn.opensuse.org/Mirrors" Anyone know what's the reason? Thanks! Sincerely Yours, Bin Li http://cn.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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