February 2007 - openSUSE Wiki - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-wiki] Web design consolidation - please comment
by Frank Sundermeyer 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hi, at the moment we have got four main openSUSE webserver http://<LANG>.opensuse.org/ (Wikis) http://build.opensuse.org/ (Build Service) http://download.opensuse.org/ (Download Distribution) http://software.opensuse.org/ (Repositories) and http://www.opensuse.org/ as a splash screen for the wikis. Unfortunately the web servers have no common design (Wikis, Build Service) or no design at all ;-) (Download, Repositories). We would like to harmonize the design of all these web servers, so it is always very clear that one is surfing on an openSUSE page - regardless of what server is visited. We would also like to make http://www.opensuse.org/ the single entry point for all openSUSE web servers, not only for the Wiki. A web design that can be used on all openSUSE servers has to be very flexible. Our designer Robert Lihm has made a proposal that we would like to discuss with you: http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/ This directory contains two mockups (Wiki home page, Wiki content page) and a color palette. We chose the wiki as a base because this is the web server you are probably most familiar with. Nevertheless, this is no final proposal how the wiki should look like in the future (this will be subject of further discussions), but rather a presentation of the concept in a familiar context. So, for now, we would like to discuss the overall concept and not the context or whether the wiki links should be on top or at the bottom of the page ;-)). The proposal basically only consists of different boxes, being the building blocks in a construction set. Such a concept offers us the flexibility we need to use it for all openSUSE servers (this is especially true for the Build Service). So, please tell us whether you like it or not, whether you have got suggestions for improvement, or ... . Thanks Frank -- Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nürnberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane (Dogbert) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki cleanup
by Francis Giannaros 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

One of the items suggested at the community meeting was the recurring complaint from a lot of people about the state of the openSUSE.org wiki. Now, I'll be the first to echo a lot of the wiki's praises, and I like a lot of the articles on there, but I keep hearing this time and time again, and it impacts on the centralisation of openSUSE documentation since people don't want to contribute to it for that reason. Several people mentioned that they'd be very willing to help with such a thing, and I have since received a couple of emails and messages from people asking about how they can get involved. I really didn't want to say to anyone "ok, just start at it", since everyone seems to be lost as it's evidently not a trivial task. So I've been trying to think about ways in which we can get a real team effort channelled into "wiki triaging", with quality control and the like. I myself haven't started doing any sort of big attempts at a clearup yet since I wanted these goals to be defined with easy ways for others to get involved. So, this brings me to a few proposals: * Suggested at the meeting: Start having a "This article has been suggested for a cleanup" notice at the top of the page, that can link to the wiki quality control information, with instructions on how to get involved. Similar to what wikipedia has. * A document with a set of tasks on what should be cleared up on the wiki. * To get a team effort going, and easy discussion on each topic, why not hang around on #opensuse-wiki, where we can always talk about each such issue. Any thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net)

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[opensuse-wiki] Index.php visible in return link, etc.
by Rajko M. 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Hi, Browser is Firefox SUSE/2.0.0.1-8.1 Firefox/2.0.0.1. Index.php visible in return link from Special:Whatlinkshere to article for instance: http://en.opensuse.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Cleanup the link < Template:Cleanup is showing http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Template:Cleanup&redirect=no it should show the same as other links http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Cleanup BTW, search field under the logo has no cursor. Can anybody confirm this? If yes, is worth of bug report? -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Translation to pt-br(Brazilian Portuguese)
by Orlando Gentil 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Carlos, >The pt wiki is open to all Portuguese and Brazillian people (already announced >here on this mailinglist) like Wikipedia are. If you want to collaborate with >us, you are extremely welcomed. Please drop me a line if you want to. >I really think that isn't necessary have two separate wiki's (the pt_BR and >pt) since they are too close to each one (ok, a few words aren't but is it >really necessary?!). Joining the force we could create a great wiki, don't >you agree? I strongly agree with you. But I've been working with open-source since 2001 and during this time, the biggest complain I hear is that the software is pt instead of pt-br. OpenOffice is a great example. Until the pt-br version was not released, the language was the major obstacle to its addoption. I, by myself, would be very happy if we could have a single language. []'s Orlando --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Translation to pt-br(Brazilian Portuguese)
by Orlando Gentil 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi all, I went through the translation guide and so far, so good. But searching for the pt-br code I could not find it. Only two-letter codes will be available? Brazilian Portuguese has many differences from Portuguese How can this be resolved? Or there's no solution? TIA, Orlando --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re:Wiki cleanup
by SClarke 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi all Bit new to this but as apokryphos has highlighted, the organization on the wiki is a little dis-jointed. There does need to be a joint effort and discussions regarding the issues. I highlighted to apokryphos what I found in just looking at yast I'll repeat here the same. Starting with yast http://en.opensuse.org/YaST First thing with a little google there's a place holder for this page http://en.opensuse.org/Start_the_YaST_Control_Center then we get to software section. I'm just lost does it really need every version hell why not add the older ones. My suggestion is Online Update Setup, installation source, should link to a generic page that includes a merging of these. Or at least a logical follow out. Rather than the disorganization, by the way I stopped after 44 pages on google and had more to go, so I suspect there's more that fall into update and repos that I've yet to find. http://en.opensuse.org/Add_Package_Repositories_to_YaST http://en.opensuse.org/Add_a_Package_Repository_as_a_YaST_Installation_Sour… http://en.opensuse.org/Adding_a_Package_Repository_as_a_YaST_Installation_S… http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories http://en.opensuse.org/Install_a_Package_using_YaST_Software_Management http://en.opensuse.org/KDE http://en.opensuse.org/Software_Repositories http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_KDE_and_other_software_via_YaST http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_SUSE_Linux http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/YaST_Online_Update_-_10.0 http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/YaST_Online_Update_-_10.1 http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=YaST_Additional_Packages&action=edit http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Installation_Source And then even this which I think could be a little different but does highlight my point still http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Software_Management All of the above could and should be merged in to several logical if not one page. If several then the initial pages need to follow a logical order. There seems to be no structure on the wiki I'm more than happy to help, but as to how? Some pages marked as delete over a month a go still exist, some over a year ago. Its just lets keep adding and now its got to the point where finding the wheat in the chaff is to damn hard. There shouldn't be repeats for each version tags need to be used if something is version specific the wiki has the option. Using my above suggestion what happens if you a newbie looking oh 10.2 isn't there but we know it is. If its talking about repos then lets wrap it into one generic page if we're including repos like jenglher etc then we might as well incorporate kde, both have the potential to break, why not also include xgl etc... So as a plan of attack needs addressing the involved parties need to get involved lets talk on #opensuse-wiki get some feed back and try to put the gloss back on the wiki. ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Displaying new uploaded Images
by Olaf Hannemann 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hi all, I have a problem in the German Wiki. Trying to edit the article http://de.opensuse.org/YaST/System, I discoverd that new uploaded Images won't be displayed, if the size of the image will be limited. [[Bild:Yast-timezone-icon.png]] will work, but [[Bild:Yast-timezone-icon.png|25px]] will not work. An image uploaded some days before e.g. [[Bild:Yast-printer-icon.png|25px]] will work. Looks a little bit wierd to me. What am I doing wrong, or is there a Problem with the Wiki? Regards, Olaf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Translate opensuse into Persian(fa)-farsi
by hasan noori 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hello to translation team, I Am Hasan Noori a math education in Iran, And I wish Translate All OpenSuse Package into Farsi (Iranian language). please Help me. With regard hasan . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] <console> extension
by Francis Giannaros 16 Feb '07

16 Feb '07

yaloki suggested this for opensuse-community.org, and implemented it some time ago, and I think it's been a really great idea. How about having a <console> tag to differentiate when something should be put into a console? At the moment the current method (i.e. where you just leave a space on a newline) is being used in many different ways, so it's not instantly clear that it's terminal input all the time (to a new user). An example of this in action: http://opensuse-community.org/Amarok Very easy to implement, just a little CSS. Thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net)

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[opensuse-wiki] New coordinator for PT wiki
by Hugo Costelha 16 Feb '07

16 Feb '07

Hi, I am the current PT wiki coordinator however, I will go through a big change in my life in the upcoming weeks, which will make my free time go almost to negative values. This means that I will not have the proper time to do a good job has the PT wiki coordinator, at least until August. I talked with the main contributor for the wiki, Carlos Gonçalves (carlos(a)pinguix.com) and he agreed to take my position. So I am welcoming Carlos has the new coordinator, and I would like to ask Martin (if it is not you, please accept my apologies) to give sysop rights to cgoncalves . Thanks all for the contributions to the wiki, and a special thanks to Carlos for his work. Hugo Costelha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Maintainer for Virtualization?
by Tom Miller 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Is there a maintainer for Virtualization? I am doing a lot of self learning and thought it would make sense to update the Wiki with the information that I am gathering. First thing that is troubling is that Virtualization stuff is spread out all over the wiki and not in one "branch". I would really like to clean this stuff up if I am going to be adding a lot of information to the Wiki. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Maintainer for Virtualization?
by Rajko M. 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

On Thursday 01 February 2007 20:36, Tom Miller wrote: > I am assuming there is another level of administrator to control > creation of pages and edit the page description, creation of section, > etc. If there is, how do I get that privilege so I can fix the > hierarchy of pages, etc. Or is there something I am missing? I have feeling that you are looking on openSUSE web page as a normal web page. While layout is somewhat changed it is a wiki based on Mediawiki software like Wikipedia, though on openSUSE wiki editing is limited to users that have Novell account, that is easy to obtain. Click on top right link "Create an account or log in" and the rest is selfexplanatory. Anonymous editing like on Wikipedia is not possible on openSUSE wiki. After you are logged in, you can create new pages, move content of existing to new title etc, which will result in new article structure. No need for special administrative privileges, that exist, but only few Novell employees have that kind of access. Deleting pages is reserved for sysop accounts, more common practice is to move pages using link "move" at the bottom of each page, in line with history, edit, article, discussion, which will leave original article title with redirect instruction, so that existing links from other pages will function. If you want to reuse existing title than you have to find what pages are linked to that title and relink them to point to new one. The menu on left hand side offers Toolbox and there is link "What Links Here" that will list all pages that link to the current page. Common wiki practice, which I find easier to implement, is to create article with most generic title and list links to pages that handle subtopics. They call this disambiguation page, but it can be also normal article about generic topic that includes links to subtopics. This kind will fit well in your presetation. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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