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howto/sdb
by Martin Lasarsch 04 Apr '06

04 Apr '06

Hi I still have this on my todo list ... I post it here to hear your opinions, and because we have only the SDB namespace atm. Did i miss something? To be honest i thought it would be much more, but i don't know what else to write :-) --- Howto/SDB/FAQ? There is some confusion about the definition of howtos, SDB articles and FAQs. This page tries to explain the main differences between the different styles to write documentation. Why a different namespace for them Working with namespaces makes searching much easier and you can see on the first look what it is. The different types howto From the wikipedia definition "A how-to is an informal, often short, description of how to accomplish some specific task. They are generally meant to help non-experts, and may leave out details that are only important to experts, and may be greatly simplified from an overall discussion of the topic." This describes perfectly an SDB article :-) Anyhow, most howtos are much more for experts and often more verbose. An example for an howto is SDB:Wireless_LANs_with_SuSE_Linux. So howtos in the openSUSE wiki are more verbose than SDB articles. If you just want to write a short article consider to put it into the SDB. Howtos have a separate namespace, so all Howtos should start with howto: SDB article SDB (Support Database) was a SUSE invention. The goal is to provide a short and easy to read article for the customer/user how to fix a problem. The focus was to make it easy and to use graphical tools where possible. A SDB article should be always problem related. Because there was only the SDB before the openSUSE wiki, you will find also some articles which are from the definition a howto. Check the SDB:Howto for more information about SDB articles. SDB have a separate namespace, so all SDB articles should start with SDB:. FAQ A FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) follow a different style. Example: Q: Is it possible to install SUSE Linux on a computer with a i486 CPU? A: No, SUSE Linux support CPUs from Pentium 1 (and compatible ones) on. FAQs are a good way to summarise topics. It could make sense even if a howto or SDB article already exist. Some howtos include a FAQ, usually at the end of the howto. FAQs have a separate namespace, so all FAQs should start with FAQ:. -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Subsystems +49 911 74053 181 +49 179 206 74 74 SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de

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opensuse-wiki-uc.1143835846.gpofinkjfmdibbelndah- my.suselinux=gmail.com@opensuse.org
by susing 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

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How members in each localization team are communicating each ether?
by noniko 28 Mar '06

28 Mar '06

Good morning. I found Japanese translation pages has been wrong-coded again. Sad....but this fact is already in Bugzilla, so that's OK. By the way, I hava question to other localization teams waiting for the own Wiki. Do you have a mailing list or some method to communicate each other? We are Japanese team and would like to use Japanese and discuss on a very localized matter, so it would not be suitable to use this ML. At first the members were few so we could use CCs in each mail, but these days the members are increasing. It's my (and other starting members') first experience to organize a team on line and I would like to know what other teams are managing. noniko noniko(a)netbeans.jp JA translation team

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Italian Wiki Translation completed!
by Marco Stella 28 Mar '06

28 Mar '06

I and my colleagues have finished the translation of the main pages. What other have I to do to have Italian wiki (it.opensuse.org) published? I'm waiting for your response, as written in the openSUSE Translation Guide... Marco

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Translations done twice?
by houghi 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

On http://en.opensuse.org/Download all the languages are done twice, or so it seems. Look in the left lower part of the menu. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

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Strict language codes and cn, tw, zh.
by Peter Flodin 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

In my editing of the language status page http://en.opensuse.org/Translation_Status, it has become obvious that the current language codes used by Chinese are not correct ISO 639 codes. They are more like TLD (top-level-domain) country codes. The correct code for Chinese is ZH with possibly ZH-CN for simplified and ZH-TW for traditional, and not just CN and TW. As it so happens CN is not the language code for any other language, so there is no clash. TW is actually the language Twi, which apparently is an african language with millions of speakers. Wikipedia with its vast larger number of articles combine Traditional and Simplified under the one zh.wikipedia.org. I see five solutions: 1. CN for Simplified, ZH for Traditional 2. ZH for simplified, ZH-TW for traditional 3. ZH-CN for simplified, ZH for traditional 4. ZH-CN for simplified and ZH-TW for traditional. 5. ZH for both simplified and traditional. I think it is unacceptable to use TW which belongs to another language. I would now like to say that I don't read or write either. Nor have any real understanding of the history behind why there are two, and I appologise beforehand if I have offended anybody through being ignorant of their culture and language, I just want things to be orderly. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin

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Finnish translation
by Pasi Havia 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

Hi all, I want to start making Finnish translation of opensuse wiki. It would be nice to hear if there are other Finnish speaking people that could contribute too. I'm fairly new to linux and SUSE myself. I've been using SUSE for only a couple of years now. By profession I'm a software developer but whole OSS development is quite new to me. This will be my first contribute to the OSS community in this size. Thank you for reading and have a nice day! BR, Pasi

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Swedish openSUSE.org site has gone live
by Mikael Sundmark 19 Mar '06

19 Mar '06

The Swedish (SV) openSUSE.org http://sv.opensuse.org was "launched" on Friday, so a new language site added to the list of present openSUSE sites; English, French, Spanish and German. Should we announce this in any way or what is the process. All the best, Mikael Sundmark (Msundmark) http://sv.opensuse.org/User:Msundmark

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Interwiki link Wiki Bot
by Peter Flodin 19 Mar '06

19 Mar '06

With the growing number of language wikis (Swedish was just silently launched http://sv.opensuse.org) the issue of keeping interwiki links up to date will become an issue. Jdd's IW template helps a bit, but it has the problem that it adds a link to all languages if the translated page exists or not. There should never be an interwiki link to a nonexistent page. As discussed briefly here before, the way the wikipedia copes with this is to use a python script. It is a well established opensource project http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywikipediabot/ The opensuse.org wiki is using non-standard authentication, with diverts and https. I was hacking at the script about a month ago, and made some progress but didn't solve it. I thought I would have another go, but thought I would raise the subject in case somebody else has been thinking the same thing. (I am definetly not a Python expert). My idea is that we would submit our changes to the sourcforge project so that we don't have to maintain our own fork of the script going forward. I will update the existing page http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bots with details and progress. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin.

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[Fwd: [Mediawiki-l] del.icio.us and mediawiki]
by jdd 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

do you think such thing could be usefull for us? I don't know the given sites, but we may adapt this to our needs (for example linking to the relevant opensuse mailing list, forum...) found on the mediawiki mailing list jdd -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Mediawiki-l] del.icio.us and mediawiki Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:25:07 +0530 From: Raj Shekhar <spamme(a)rajshekhar.net> Reply-To: spamme(a)rajshekhar.net, MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org> Organization: Yahoo! To: MediaWiki-l <mediawiki-l(a)wikimedia.org> I did not see this tip on the Mediawiki FAQ or the help page, but I think this might prove helpful to some. If you see most of the blogs, they have a bar at the bottom of each post which allows readers to bookmark it to del.icio.us, digg and other sites. This thing can be done in Mediawiki too (have a look at http://dtil.info/index.php/Main_Page to see how the final page looks) First, create a template by going to http://example.info/index.php/Template:Dtil and clicking on "edit" . In this case Dtil is the name of the template, you can call it anything you want. Most likely, you will need sysop powers to edit the template page. Add the following lines to this template <p style="border: 1px solid rgb(159, 165, 234); margin: 0px; padding: 5px 15px; color: rgb(103, 109, 184); text-align: center;"> [http://del.icio.us/post?url={{SERVER}}/index.php/{{PAGENAMEE}}&title={{PAGE… Del.icio.us this!] | [http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url={{SERVER}}/index.php/{{PAGENAMEE}} Digg this!] </p> The <p style="border: 1px solid rgb(159, 165, 234); margin: 0px; padding: 5px 15px; color: rgb(103, 109, 184); text-align: center;"> part gives a nice border to the whole template. You can fiddle with the colors to make it suit your own theme or completely remove it if you do not want html in your wiki markup Save the template. Go to any of your pages and edit it. In the end of the edit, add the line {{Dtil}} (or whatever you have named your template) and save it. Hopefully, you will have a footer in your page with links which will allow your readers to bookmark your pages on digg or del.icio.us Hope you find this useful. Should I add this to the Mediawiki FAQ or Mediawiki hacks page or is there something like this already there on it ? Cheers -- _.-, raj shekhar .--' '-._ http://rajshekhar.net _/`- _ '. http://rajshekhar.net/blog '----'._`.----. \ ` \; WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE ;_\ -- God's Last Message to his Creation _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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