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TW - ksysguard broken - not updating - please confirm
by David C. Rankin 10 Sep '24

10 Sep '24

Yasuhiko, All, I just had the relatively normal "Knotify Crash" and was going to look at ksysguard to see if there was anything funny going on. Starting ksysguard, the window opens and all looks fine -- but nothing is updating, it's just dead. Can somebody open ksysguard on Tumbleweed and see if it updates on your system. My normal "Knotify Crash" is the old random crash that disables system sounds for your sound theme: jack_client_new: deprecated Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock akode: Guessed format: xiph KNotify::playTimeout KNotify::playTimeout KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing... X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0xc0000b X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d021bd X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d021bd X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d025f1 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d025f1 libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d02bcb X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d02bcb X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1d02bcb X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1800630 It may run a week without crashing, or it may crash within a couple of hours of booting. Just random. I don't know if the knotify crash effects ksysguard updating, but I thought I would include it for completeness. If you have other ideas what to check let me know. ps still shows knotify running, but the sound theme is dead, e.g. 13:38 wizard:~> ps axf | grep notify 89933 pts/2 S+ 0:00 | \_ grep --color=auto notify 83171 ? S 0:00 knotify [kdeinit] Also, does anybody know how to restart the sound theme or sound server from the command line? I'd rather do that than logging out/in if possible. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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YaST - KDE 3 Desktop Environment - Pattern Broken by kde3-gtk-qt-engine
by David C. Rankin 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

All, Yasuhiko, Responding to a question by Felix regarding resume= for suspend, he asked for the patterns installed on my system. Checking yast I stumbled across the actual pattern KDE 3 Desktop Environment. (I'd never looked, I just presumed it was still missing as it had been for years) It's there! That's good! The bad is you cannot install it due to libbonoboui. Attempting to select the pattern results in the dependency error: ! nothing provides 'libbonoboui-2.so.0()(64bit)' needed by the to be installed kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn.20071009-52.33.x86_64 I know I've flagged the missing dep before, but there has to be some way to bring that library into the kde3 repo or patch the kde3-gtk-qt-engine to build with the newer version because that is badly needed for the kde3 continuity of desktop look and feel across gtk apps. Yes many gtk apps are moving to gtk4 being ported from gtk+3 and/or gtk+2, but many (like Gimp) still use gtk+2/gtk+3. (gtk+3 removed the ruler widget Gimp relies on, so Gimp will continue to need gtk+2 for some time) We can probably remove the following packages from the pattern as well unless the underlying libraries have been updated (the packages stay for install if individually chosen, but the likely don't need to be in the Pattern): kdebase3-extra kdenetwork3 kdenetwork3-IRC (most of the services don't exist anymore) kdenetwork3-lan kdenetwork3-lisa The rest is fine, kde3-knemo works quite nicely still. Not a high priority -- but the Pattern should install if chosen from YaST, and kde3-kcm_gtk isn't an viable alternative for kde3-gtk-qt-engine. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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TW kconfig Screensaver - OpenGL screen savers broken, Preview shown out of dialog??
by David C. Rankin 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

Yasuhiko, Checking in kconfig screensavers, all of the OpenGL screen savers are broken and no longer work. For all of the other screensavers, the Preview that should be shown at the right side of the dialog are now shown up under the titlebar somewhere. You can see a few pixels of the preview under the titlebar on the right site. No telling what is the cause. If you have time, can you confirm this behavior? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Tumbleweed - What's Triggering All The Rebuilds?
by David C. Rankin 30 Aug '24

30 Aug '24

Yasuhiko, All, What is triggering all the kde3 package rebuilds? In less than 24 hours we have: Package Current Ver. New Ver. -------------------------------- -------------------- -------------------- arts 1.5.10-46.12 1.5.10-46.13 arts-devel 1.5.10-46.12 1.5.10-46.13 d3lphin 0.9.2-2.94 0.9.2-2.95 dbus-1-qt3 0.62-227.6 0.62-227.7 dbus-1-qt3-devel 0.62-227.6 0.62-227.7 fftw 2.1.5-263.72 2.1.5-263.73 gsl1 1.16-6.13 1.16-6.14 kalsatools 1.5.0-606.16 1.5.0-606.17 kamix 0.0.7e-262.16 0.0.7e-262.17 kbarcode 2.0.7-3.91 2.0.7-3.92 kde3-basket 1.0.3.1-18.129 1.0.3.1-18.130 kde3-gwenview 1.4.2-157.16 1.4.2-157.17 kde3-katesort 1.0-2.62 1.0-2.63 kde3-kcm_gtk 0.7svn20070827-24.13 0.7svn20070827-24.14 kde3-kdiff3 0.9.92-240.82 0.9.92-240.83 kde3-kile 2.0.3-7.83 2.0.3-7.84 kde3-kipi-plugins 0.1.6-45.13 0.1.6-45.14 kde3-klatexformula 2.1.1-13.9 2.1.1-13.10 kde3-knemo 0.4.8-21.96 0.4.8-21.97 kde3-krecord 1.16-303.18 1.16-303.19 kde3-krename 3.0.14-5.5 3.0.14-5.6 kde3-kwinstyle-crystal 1.0.7-7.4 1.0.7-7.5 kdeaddons3-kate 3.5.10-38.195 3.5.10-38.196 kdeaddons3-kicker 3.5.10-38.195 3.5.10-38.196 kdeaddons3-konqueror 3.5.10-38.195 3.5.10-38.196 kdeaddons3-kontact 3.5.10-38.195 3.5.10-38.196 kdeartwork3 3.5.10-78.16 3.5.10-78.17 kdeartwork3-kscreensaver 3.5.10-78.16 3.5.10-78.17 kdeartwork3-sound 3.5.10-78.16 3.5.10-78.17 kdeartwork3-xscreensaver 3.5.10-78.16 3.5.10-78.17 kdebase3-SuSE 11.3-106.10 11.3-106.11 kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE 11.3-106.10 11.3-106.11 kdebase3-SuSE-lang 11.3-106.10 11.3-106.11 kdegames3 3.5.10-67.19 3.5.10-67.20 kdegames3-card 3.5.10-67.19 3.5.10-67.20 kdegraphics3 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdegraphics3-extra 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdegraphics3-imaging 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdegraphics3-pdf 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdegraphics3-postscript 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdegraphics3-tex 3.5.10-166.23 3.5.10-166.24 kdelibs3 3.5.10-270.3 3.5.10-270.4 kdelibs3-arts 3.5.10-270.3 3.5.10-270.4 kdelibs3-default-style 3.5.10-270.3 3.5.10-270.4 kdelibs3-devel 3.5.10-270.3 3.5.10-270.4 kdelibs3-doc 3.5.10-270.3 3.5.10-270.4 kdemultimedia3 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-arts 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-arts-mad 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-CD 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-extra 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-midi 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-mixer 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdemultimedia3-sound 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 kdenetwork3-news 3.5.10-159.17 3.5.10-159.18 kdepim3 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 kdepim3-notes 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 kdesdk3 3.5.10-84.22 3.5.10-84.23 kdesdk3-devel 3.5.10-84.22 3.5.10-84.23 kdetoys3 3.5.10-74.12 3.5.10-74.13 kdeutils3 3.5.10-123.20 3.5.10-123.21 kdeutils3-extra 3.5.10-123.20 3.5.10-123.21 kdevelop3 3.5.5-18.2 3.5.5-18.3 kdewebdev3 3.5.10-106.12 3.5.10-106.13 kdmtheme 1.2.2-2.63 1.2.2-2.64 komparator 0.9-3.72 0.9-3.73 krecipes 0.98.2-21.83 0.98.2-21.84 ksplash-engine-moodin 0.4.2-2.62 0.4.2-2.63 kstopwatch 0.1.0-7.8 0.1.0-7.9 kxmleditor 1.1.4-330.91 1.1.4-330.92 libakode-2 2.0.2-210.11 2.0.2-210.12 libdbus-1-qt3-0 0.8.1-88.9 0.8.1-88.10 libdbus-1-qt3-0-devel 0.8.1-88.9 0.8.1-88.10 libkcal 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 libkcal2 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 libkdcraw4 0.1.8-72.14 0.1.8-72.15 libkexiv2-5 0.1.8-17.8 0.1.8-17.9 libkipi0 0.1.6-56.83 0.1.6-56.84 libkipi0-lang 0.1.6-56.83 0.1.6-56.84 libkmime2 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 libktnef1 3.5.10-291.12 3.5.10-291.13 libmpeg-0_3_0 3.5.10.1-86.5 3.5.10.1-86.6 qt3 3.3.8c-167.16 3.3.8c-167.17 qt3-devel 3.3.8c-167.16 3.3.8c-167.17 qt3-devel-examples 3.3.8c-190.13 3.3.8c-190.14 qt3-devel-tools 3.3.8c-190.13 3.3.8c-190.14 qt3-man 3.3.8c-190.13 3.3.8c-190.14 qt3-mysql 3.3.8c-190.13 3.3.8c-190.14 arts would do it since it is first in the build-order... but then that wouldn't trigger a rebuild of qt3. Just curious. Who knew kde3 was under such active development :) This isn't only limited to the KDE3 repo, packman (which is the slowest from the US) also has about 50 of the same packages that seem to build every day and the mozilla repo that has a couple of libs and nss that rebuilds every day. Does anybody know what is causing this? Horrible mirror speed from the US makes it painful to update Tumbleweed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Tumbleweed kmenuedit - many Gtk icons named "org" and can't be used.
by David C. Rankin 20 Aug '24

20 Aug '24

Yasuhiko, All, Working with kmenuedit I ran across a bug in the way some Gtk icons are listed in the System icons -> Application list. Many of the Gtk app icons are just named "org" -- which creates problems. You can see a screenshot here: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/31a073a6794f For some reason the list isn't capturing the icon name and just grabs the leading "org" part of the backwards-ass path naming Gtk uses. No doubt this is a new Gtk4 SNAFU. Do I need to file a bug for it, or is this something easy to fix? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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kdm3 doesn't support systemd 256 logind (or any systemd logind)?
by David C. Rankin 18 Aug '24

18 Aug '24

Yasuhiko, All, There was an issue discussed regarding susepaste and how it grabs information from loginctl to copy information to the clipboard, and to do so it needed the tty information for the login. The discussion is in the thread from earlier today titled: What's wrong with suse_paste.sh "Failed to get path for session '1"?? Currently kdm3 doesn't register any tty with loginctl, e..g $ loginctl list-sessions --no-legend 1 1000 david seat0 1608 user - no - 2 1000 david - 1765 manager - no - Georg is currently fixing the 2 login (new "manager") issue, but without tty info, it isn't clear he can make the copy to clipboard work (not sure how susepaste did it before) Have you run into any other issues from not having tty info available to loginctl? Arch for example with lightdm does register a tty, e.g. $ loginctl list-sessions --no-legend 2 1000 david - 695 manager - no - 3 1000 david seat0 512 user tty1 yes 3h 54min ago 6 1000 david - 25849 user - no - So I guess it is the "tty1 yes 3h 54min ago" info Andrei is talking about being missing. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Tumbleweed - Why are backtraces no longer produced in the kcrash dialog?
by David C. Rankin 18 Aug '24

18 Aug '24

Yasuhiko, all, All the way up through 15.4, when kcrash was triggered you would get a backtrace in the dialog you could save and use to debug the problem. Now in Tumbleweed, kcrash no longer triggers a backtrace, but instead displays text that real time debug info can be downloaded from an opensuse.org site???? Huh? Of course, kcrash is hardwired to answer 'N' (No) to the prompt to download the debug info. What's going on here and can we restore the default behavior so kcrash provides a backtrace? I fine with loading debuginfo packages, as needed. What says the Onmyōji Yasuhiko (wizard)? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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battery charge level indicator for KDE3
by Istvan Gabor 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Hello:------I installed openSUSE 15.5 with KDE3 on a laptop, which I never did before.------Which package or program contains an applet for KDE3 system tray that shows battery charge level?------Thanks,------Istvan

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Fwd: KDevelop Broken in Tumbleweed
by David C. Rankin 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Oops, forgot to reply to list, message sent to Yasuhiko alone below: -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: KDevelop Broken in Tumbleweed Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 21:20:48 -0500 From: David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)gmail.com> To: Yasuhiko Kamata <belphegor(a)belbel.or.jp> On 8/11/24 9:13 PM, Yasuhiko Kamata wrote: > Hello, > > I think that the "%u" in the command line is doing something wrong. > (SIGSEGV seems to occur in various places) > > Try starting the app without "%u" ("kdevelop --profile KDECppIDE") > and see if the issue is avoided. > > "%u" is a placeholder that should be replaced with a file selected > within Konqueror, but it does not seem to be used anywhere..? > (right click a cpp file in Konqueror, kdevelop does not apper in > the menu). > > Thanks, > > On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 14:30:23 -0500 > "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yasuhiko, >> >> There is an odd problem with kdevelop that causes it to crash >> randomly. Sometimes you can build an example, but sometimes if you >> simply middle-mouse-paste something into an editor window it crashes. >> For example, just working with the "simple" example, adding the >> header kuinqueapplication.h in main.cpp causes the program to crash, >> e.g. >> >> Here is the output to stderr running from the commandline to catch >> the output: >> >> $ kdevelop --profile KDECppIDE %u >> libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile >> QLayout "unnamed" added to IndexView "unnamed", which already has a >> layout libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile >> libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile >> QString::arg(): Argument missing: KDE Icon data, kde_icon >> QObject::connect: No such signal KListBox::clicked(QListBoxItem*item) >> QObject::connect: (sender name: 'srcDistFileListBox') >> QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'dist_widget') >> QObject::connect: No such slot >> ProblemReporter::configWidget(KDialogBase*) QObject::connect: >> (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: >> 'problemReporterWidget') ASSERT: "part && parent" in >> /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/kdevelop-3.5.5/parts/fileview/partwidget.cpp >> (41) KCrash: Application 'kdevelop' crashing... >> >> It points to a signal and slot not found, >> >> KListBox::clicked(QListBoxItem*item) >> >> and >> >> ProblemReporter::configWidget(KDialogBase*) >> >> Should I open a bug or do you want to check and see if there is an >> easy fix? >> >> -- >> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > > Thank you Yasuhiko! But alas, the %u wasn't the issue. Starting without it causes it to crash right away. Same output to stderr: $ kdevelop --profile KDECppIDE libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile QLayout "unnamed" added to IndexView "unnamed", which already has a layout libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile QString::arg(): Argument missing: KDE Icon data, kde_icon QObject::connect: No such signal KListBox::clicked(QListBoxItem*item) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'srcDistFileListBox') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'dist_widget') QObject::connect: No such slot ProblemReporter::configWidget(KDialogBase*) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'problemReporterWidget') KCrash: Application 'kdevelop' crashing... What else do you think it could be? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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KDevelop Broken in Tumbleweed
by David C. Rankin 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Yasuhiko, There is an odd problem with kdevelop that causes it to crash randomly. Sometimes you can build an example, but sometimes if you simply middle-mouse-paste something into an editor window it crashes. For example, just working with the "simple" example, adding the header kuinqueapplication.h in main.cpp causes the program to crash, e.g. Here is the output to stderr running from the commandline to catch the output: $ kdevelop --profile KDECppIDE %u libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile QLayout "unnamed" added to IndexView "unnamed", which already has a layout libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile QString::arg(): Argument missing: KDE Icon data, kde_icon QObject::connect: No such signal KListBox::clicked(QListBoxItem*item) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'srcDistFileListBox') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'dist_widget') QObject::connect: No such slot ProblemReporter::configWidget(KDialogBase*) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'problemReporterWidget') ASSERT: "part && parent" in /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/kdevelop-3.5.5/parts/fileview/partwidget.cpp (41) KCrash: Application 'kdevelop' crashing... It points to a signal and slot not found, KListBox::clicked(QListBoxItem*item) and ProblemReporter::configWidget(KDialogBase*) Should I open a bug or do you want to check and see if there is an easy fix? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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