- openSUSE Factory

installation stops during hardware detection
by Frank-Michael Fischer 18 Mar '06

18 Mar '06

Anyone any idea how to get around bug 158958? Thanks! FMF

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Gnome menu editor -- beginner's question, possible bug?
by Chad Groneman 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Hi, I have a question about how to modify the entries in the GNOME menu. While playing with beta8, I noticed my firefox seemed a bit slow to start up. From the release notes, it looks like there's possibly a pango issue, and I wanted to change the entry in my menus to start firefox with the environment variable set. When I tried to edit my GNOME menu, I found that the only modification I could make was whether an icon showed in the menu or not. Even as root. Is this how it is intended, or is this a bug? I'm primarily a KDE user and not as familiar with Gnome, so this is likely a lack of knowledge on my part. How do I edit or add an item in the Gnome menus? Thanks, Chad Groneman PS - This is not intended to start a KDE vs GNOME discussion. Please don't reply to this if that's your intention.

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Fontconfig and Helvetica
by Felix Miata 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

I never seem to get caught up enough to get onto the SuSE factory program. I see a what I consider a bug in 10.0 that isn't in 9.3 and wonder if anyone else can tell me if it is known about and/or fixed for 10.1. On this work in progress http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica.html if you look in the 2nd table where I've mixed several other fonts in with Helvetica in pt sizes for comparison, in 9.3 both Konqueror and Firefox 1.5.0.1 render the font Nimbus Sans L when Helvetica is requested, as directed by the alias in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf. In 10.0 in Konqueror, the first sans-serif listed in the fonts.conf file's "Sans-serif faces" section is substituted instead, while that same substitution only happens in Firefox only when something other than the generic "sans-serif" is selected as a Firefox sans-serif preference. 9.2 behavior is more like 10.0 than 9.3. I've looked also at several other distros, and only 9.3 seems to be correctly behaving according to what fonts.conf seems to be prescribing. -- "Blessed are they whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord." Psalm 119:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth

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Default firefox download location
by Chad Groneman 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Hi, It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior. Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better. One option would be to revert firefox back to where it would prompt where to save files by default. Or, if we don't want that extra window, may I present another possibility: My opinion is that if we want downloaded files to be easy to find, we should have a "Downloads" folder off the Desktop which would be the default location. That way less technical users could find their downloaded files, and it wouldn't clutter the desktop for those of us who are so busy it's hard to find time to clean the desktop. Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Chad Groneman

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Beta8: Add-On Media during install
by Eberhard Moenkeberg 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Hi, I just detect that there is the chance to click for add-on products during installation. I tried to add the /pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source directory via nfs, but then I get an error: File /installation.xml not found on media: ... Is this a bug, or is "add-on product" something else? Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke(a)gwdg.de, em(a)kki.org)

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rug sa never completes?
by Peter Flodin 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

I am running Beta 6 on which I installed factory packages from Mar 16: rug zmd libzypp libzypp-zmd-backend zen-updater First when I do a "rug ping" I get: ZMD 7.1.1, Copyright (C) 2005 Novell, Inc. Started at 2006-03-17 06:41:01 (uptime: 0 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes) RSS size: 17568 Network Connected: Yes OS Target: SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) Module Name | Description -------------------+------------------------------------------------- Inventory | Software and Hardware inventory module for Linux NetworkManager | NetworkManager support Package Management | Package Management module for Linux ZENworks Server | SOAP methods used by a ZENworks server XML-RPC interface | Export ZMD public interfaces over XML-RPC This is different from what is on the http://en.opensuse.org/Examples_using_rug where OS Target: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (i586) when I do a rug service-add, it quickly gets to 33%, I can see from network activity that it is downloading, after a while net activity stops and it is parsing the data and taking most of the system resources. My question is whether it is totally caput, or is it just a hog and it actually finishes at some point? I have left mine for a few hours but it never moves from 33%. I also used the zen updater gui to add a service which I assume is just a front-end for rug, with the same results. My test machine is an AMD 1600 with 256Mb. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin

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YaST - Software Management
by Joseph M. Gaffney 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Just a quick usability point - at the end of using Software Management, the question comes up "Would you like to Add or Remove More Packages?" with a "yes" and "no" button. Many people just look at the answers and not the question (I just caught myself doing it, and almost selected the wrong option). Perhaps the old way, "Finish" would be a better option instead of "No"? Maybe "Add More Packages" and "Finished Installing" would be good options. Whichever really; I just don't think "Yes" and "No" for what they mean are good choices. Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Q: bugzilla practice
by Ulrich Windl 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Hello, let me quote first: What |Removed |Added -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Component|Gnome |GNOME Product|SUSE LINUX 9.2 Professional |SUSE Linux 10.1 Resolution| |FIXED Fixed in Milestone|--- |RC 1 Version|final |Beta 8 I think this is unfortunate use of bugzilla, because: The problem does exist in 9.2 (After the change the bug report would not be found for 9.2 any more, possibly leaving the impression that it hadn't been reported) I'd prefer to add a comment, saying "fixed in 10.1, no updates for older versions (SLES excepted, maybe)". Is this the way bugzilla is to be used? Regards, Ulrich

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10.1 beta6 hard crashed on a latitude d500 during install
by Michael DePaulo 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

Hello, I went to install OpenSUsE 10.1 beta6 on my latitude d500 (to test another bug) when it hard crashed during setup. It just totally froze at the graphical installer in the middle of installing packages (it was at 100% for installing hplip), I couldn't move the mouse, I couldn't do ctrl + alt + F1, there was no hard drive access, I didn't see a kernel panic message, etc. I was doing a HTTP install, more details below. I would like to know if there is anyway I can get more information about what happened so as to help solve a potential bug. I could go ahead and try to install again, but that would delete any install logs that might contain information about what went wrong, and it might succeed and thus not reproduce that log info. I looked through /var/log/YaST2/y2logRPM (it didn't report hplip as being installed) and y2start.log, but they don't seem to indicate any problem. People at freenode suggested I run a memory test and the sisoft Sandra burn in test (I have windows XP on another partition), but both of them completed successfully. Furthermore, I can't ever remember a time my computer crashed on me, unless I was using ndiswrapper or hot swapping stuff I shouldn't have. I have done stress intensive stuff such as copying large amounts of data, using the 10/100 NIC near 100%, using the wireless card (which produces a lot of heat and is next to the CPU) while using the CPU a lot, or playing games (full CPU and integrated graphics usage.) It would have to be a very big coincidence if it just happened to crash for hardware reasons this time. I find it very unlikely that it overheated, like was suggested on IRC, since the wireless card couldn't even have been used, it's a totally unsupported Broadcom. This install was done by downloading the CD ISO's, using makeSUSEdvd to combine them into one installation source (makeSUSEdvd -s -i), and then using the mini iso to point to that source, shared over HTTP from another machine on the same LAN. I was using my Intel pro 100 VE for this. I have used makeSUSEdvd on 10.1 beta6 before successfully, on an x86_64 source that was burnt to a DVD, and it worked fine. It did have some trouble trying to access it over SMB, but then I put the source on HTTP and it was fine. I did a pretty custom package selection (again, it crashed while installing hplip), and I did have it format the partition it was installing to with reiserFS. My system is a latitude d500, with a Pentium-m 1.3, 384 megs of ram, intel 855GM, a Hitachi IC25NO40ATCS05-0 hard drive, an LG CRN-8245B CD-ROM drive, and an Intel pro 100 VE with a MS intellimouse optical plugged in. Again, if anyone can give advice on identifying the problem through data on the partition, I'd appreciate it. If that is impossible, I'd like to know that too so I can try again. I'm just trying to do whatever I can to help identify what is probably a bug. -Mike

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Q: rpm -q --requires
by Ulrich Windl 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

Hi, a simple question: Is it considered as a bug if an RPM lists a specific requirement multiple times? I can guess that this wastes some space in the RPM as well as RAM when tracking dependencies. Regards, Ulrich

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