Default firefox download location
Hi, It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior. Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better. One option would be to revert firefox back to where it would prompt where to save files by default. Or, if we don't want that extra window, may I present another possibility: My opinion is that if we want downloaded files to be easy to find, we should have a "Downloads" folder off the Desktop which would be the default location. That way less technical users could find their downloaded files, and it wouldn't clutter the desktop for those of us who are so busy it's hard to find time to clean the desktop. Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Chad Groneman
Hi, On 2006-03-16 at 22:29:47 -0700, Chad Groneman wrote (shortened):
It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior.
Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better.
The current behaviour is the default Firefox behaviour. We haven't modified it.
One option would be to revert firefox back to where it would prompt where to save files by default. Or, if we don't want that extra window, may I present another possibility: My opinion is that if we want downloaded files to be easy to find, we should have a "Downloads" folder off the Desktop which would be the default location. That way less technical users could find their downloaded files, and it wouldn't clutter the desktop for those of us who are so busy it's hard to find time to clean the desktop.
Thanks for your feedback. I get your point and basically agree. But changing it at this point is not really what I want. If you want you to discuss this I propose the newsgroup mozilla.dev.usability on news.mozilla.org or the mail-interface for it: dev-usability@lists.mozilla.org (https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-usability) CU, Wolfgang -- SUSE LINUX GmbH -o) Tel: +49-(0)911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstr. 5 /\\ Fax: +49-(0)911-740 53 679 90409 Nuernberg, Germany _\_v simply change to www.suse.com
Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 06:42 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
Hi,
On 2006-03-16 at 22:29:47 -0700, Chad Groneman wrote (shortened):
It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior.
Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better.
The current behaviour is the default Firefox behaviour. We haven't modified it. I remember, that Suse Firefox 1.0.X under KDE came with KDE integration, so you could simply choose in Konqueror where to save downloads. Would be nice to have this integration also for Firefox 1.5.
Also you could replace the default download window with the dialog appearing if you choose save as. There is another problem with the font size and the download window. In most cases you cannot see the string behind "All files were saved to: " as the Cancel button is there. So this is really _stupid friendly_, not user friendly. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99
Hello, Marcel Hilzinger schrieb:
I remember, that Suse Firefox 1.0.X under KDE came with KDE integration, so you could simply choose in Konqueror where to save downloads. Would be nice to have this integration also for Firefox 1.5.
Also you could replace the default download window with the dialog appearing if you choose save as.
Well, if you want to change the behaviour, goto Edit > Preferences > Downloads and choose ( ) Ask every time where to save a file ( ) Save all files in this directory [....................] [Browse] Tobias PS: Maybe for a beginner it is not so bad that they end up on the desktop - at least they can find it then. Otherwise if they are silently saved somewhere else, it makes it much harder for a beginner to find them.
Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 10:48 schrieb Tobias Burnus:
Hello,
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb:
I remember, that Suse Firefox 1.0.X under KDE came with KDE integration, so you could simply choose in Konqueror where to save downloads. Would be nice to have this integration also for Firefox 1.5.
Also you could replace the default download window with the dialog appearing if you choose save as.
Well, if you want to change the behaviour, goto Edit > Preferences > Downloads and choose ( ) Ask every time where to save a file ( ) Save all files in this directory [....................] [Browse]
_I_ know, that I can change it there. But this story is not about you and me, but (hopefully) thousands of Suse Linux users. That's why I suggested, to make the save as dialog the default one :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99
On 17 Mar 2006 at 10:40, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 06:42 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
Hi,
On 2006-03-16 at 22:29:47 -0700, Chad Groneman wrote (shortened):
It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior.
Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better.
The current behaviour is the default Firefox behaviour. We haven't modified it. I remember, that Suse Firefox 1.0.X under KDE came with KDE integration, so you could simply choose in Konqueror where to save downloads. Would be nice to have this integration also for Firefox 1.5.
See "about:config" and "browser.download.dir" in Firefox.
Also you could replace the default download window with the dialog appearing if you choose save as.
There is another problem with the font size and the download window. In most cases you cannot see the string behind "All files were saved to: " as the Cancel button is there. So this is really _stupid friendly_, not user friendly.
Regards, Ulrich
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger
Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99
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On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:38:34PM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
See "about:config" and "browser.download.dir" in Firefox.
Or for the more standard user: Edit, Preferences, Downloads. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau
Em Sex, 2006-03-17 às 06:42 +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer escreveu:
If you want you to discuss this I propose the newsgroup mozilla.dev.usability on news.mozilla.org or the mail-interface for it:
I've seen other distros that implement that change regardless of what Firefox defaults to. For example, Mandriva have a ~/Downloads folder (the folder name is also translated to the same language as the GUI). -- % Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) % mteixeira{a}webset{d}net <> Maceio/AL/BR % http://mteixeira.webset.net <> http://pmping.sf.net
On 16 Mar 2006 at 22:29, Chad Groneman wrote:
Hi,
It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior.
Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better.
FYI: In 10.0 GNOMEs screen shot utility does the same. Maybe it was intended as a reminder to clean up your desktop after work ;-)
One option would be to revert firefox back to where it would prompt where to save files by default. Or, if we don't want that extra window, may I present another possibility: My opinion is that if we want downloaded files to be easy to find, we should have a "Downloads" folder off the Desktop which would be the default location. That way less technical users could find their downloaded files, and it wouldn't clutter the desktop for those of us who are so busy it's hard to find time to clean the desktop.
The idea is good. Actually I'm practicing that. I even have added a directory ~/Download/OLD where I move all older files. Once I'm tight on space I empty the OLD folder and the game starts from the beginning. Regards, Ulrich
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:24:17AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
On 16 Mar 2006 at 22:29, Chad Groneman wrote:
Hi,
It's probably been this way for a long time, but I noticed with beta8 that firefox defaults to automatically save to the desktop rather than the home folder or some other location. It seems to me that this is a quick way to clutter the desktop, and for users who are unfamiliar with firefox, it might be difficult to find where to change that default behavior.
Maybe it is this way on purpose because of the "usability studies" (have you seen any of them? Where do they get those people?!), but it seems like there would be something better.
FYI: In 10.0 GNOMEs screen shot utility does the same. Maybe it was intended as a reminder to clean up your desktop after work ;-)
It is always nice to have things saving in directories I do not use, like Desktop. :-/ houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau
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Chad Groneman -
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Tobias Burnus -
Ulrich Windl -
Wolfgang Rosenauer