January 2014 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] NOTE: auto-cleanup of ~:branches: projects is active now!
by Adrian Schröter 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

To reduce the build load of our build.opensuse.org instance we did activate the new auto-cleanup mechanism of OBS now. This means, by default all default branch projects (home:<ACCOUNT>:branches:...) get an attribute to self-destruct after a given time (currently 60 days). No panic, this is less grave as you may think now, because: * The deletion will happen via a request. If you decline that one the project will stay. * Delete requests will not created if there are still running requests involving this project. * there is the "osc undelete" command to bring the project sources back * You can Opt-Out by removing the OBS:AutoCleanup attribute This will free hopefully lots of build power and make us more responsive again :) thank you adrian -- Adrian Schroeter email: adrian(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] RFC: move ifconfig and friends out of default installation
by Michal Kubecek 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

Hello, I've got one daring proposition. As you probably know, the ifconfig utility is obsolete since kernel 2.2 (released 15 years ago) so that it doesn't show you all requested information, sometimes it shows you things that don't exist and sometimes it does something else than you asked. There are more obsolete utilities (like route or arp) and even one that doesn't work at all for a very long time (rarp). As we have already kicked out of the distribution tools that were much less obsolete and much more useful, I propose to move the obsolete network config utilities out of the default installation, i.e. - move ifconfig, route, arp, nameif, ipmaddr, iptunnel into a separate package, e.g. net-tools-obsolete, which wouldn't be part of a default installation - drop rarp I'm not including netstat in the list as I'm afraid only few people even know that ss exists. Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] wicked wicked
by Dr. Werner Fink 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

Hi Jan, I'd like to know why you Mail User Agent is using CR+NL and what the binary line below the PGP signature is good for? Should I open a bug against Claws Mail User Agent? This because my mutt handle such mails as binary waste. Even the file(1) command reports on the saved mail body: /suse/werner> file mail-body mail-body: data if I remove last the binary line I see /suse/werner> file mail-body mail-body: UTF-8 Unicode text which it should be. Werner ----- Forwarded message from Jan Matejka <JMatejka(a)suse.cz> ----- [... header removed...] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:43:54 +0100 Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> wrote: > Le vendredi 24 janvier 2014 à 00:03 -0600, Larry Finger a écrit : > > > I won't go so far as to say that the devs will never learn; > > however, wicd (aka wicked) is extremely wicked. I installed a copy > > to test something for a user, and I also was unable to return to > > NetworkManager when through. The only thing was to reinstall. > > wicked is not wicd.. "WICD (pronounced like wicked)" [1]_ .. [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD - -- Jan Matějka | QA Engineer for Maintenance SUSE s.r.o. | https://www.suse.com/ GPG: A33E F5BC A9F6 DAFD 2021 6FB6 3EBF D45B EEB6 CA8B -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJS6KvxAAoJEIN+7RD5ejahZ34H/jgnnl3LiSvW4AcFAT8ev9yh DhuKY5G4dCmAQ3UyJI3VQzLTrxpFfM8SzneIt6NVzuycNHHFj+hNbPv7WCXh3Cbk 40zzqqyLy8NjPYmNlS6VEvg3JSd12ZFnQY8wwxYwraHrxNDZcEC/6n/A8aTwF9y4 9BzF7hlVNHOMHSArtUasK4DDl9B2mhBRkN0c7+9aXard4JDrysDnVgqq1zf79qIm 5TdH8R2FVyMeZyc1PF07FFNp6JSu3XZIlimPeRRxJTRAB1zdxPbGCMDxVx9UkkIR R7NTWh3u8Ww5znFSLSpT5+wA5NuN/dkN1vK/0GM1Af3p1rzD/G1GXG2IWaj3g9U= =OahG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ��{.n�+��{��_��}�-��{.n�+��N�(�֜��^� ޯ��^�ˬ{��r�+��0�� ----- End forwarded message ----- -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr

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[opensuse-factory] Question regarding qpopper
by Carlos E. R. 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I ask this on behalf of a forum user. Looking here: <http://software.opensuse.org/package/qpopper> qpopper is available for 12.2, 12.3, and factory. Yet it is missing from the recent 13.1. Why? There is a bugzilla about this, dated last November, unanswered. <https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850801> There is no need to answer on the list if the bugzilla is answered. Thanks. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLpXMEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VllACdEhqMpRfVWtprHMQcYEP042xu R9MAoJJ5mzHuAKIyBzrFM2QVVW40I5qD =q9J0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [tumbleweed] Kernel 3.13.0 WARNING with Raid
by Bruno Friedmann 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

If you use tumbleweed with raid soft subsystem beware of bug that can freeze it https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860252 -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-packaging] exfat-nofuse in factory or at least consolidated in filesystem
by Stefan Seyfried 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Damn crossposting, and then to the wrong list first... :-) -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [opensuse-packaging] exfat-nofuse in factory or at least consolidated in filesystem Datum: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:27:54 +0100 Von: Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried(a)googlemail.com> An: opensuse-packaging(a)opensuse.org Hi Bruno, Am 27.01.2014 22:25, schrieb Bruno Friedmann: > For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat. > > For example have the best of dkms alternative available here > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms > or native > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-no… > > and the fuse exfat-utils > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils > https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore. I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it. > Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. > Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Removing WebYaST from Factory
by Jiri Srain 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hi, The YaST team currently maintains WebYaST, although this is right now not under active development. We are considering dropping maintanance for Factory so we can focus our efforts on YaST itself. We are aware, that there are WebYaST users in the openSUSE community, however, given the amount of bugs, which are reported, as well as data we have from SUSE Studio (where WebYaST is not used very often either), it looks obvious that YaST is much more used than WebYaST (and, I admit, in the past, YaST did not get the amount of care that it would deserve). Let us know, if you have any comments on this move. Thanks in advance for your feedback, Jiri -- Regards, Jiri Srain Project Manager --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: jsrain(a)suse.com Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 659 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 084 001 Czech Republic http://www.suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Stagings are on
by Michal Hrusecky 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hi, yesterday we had initial kick-off meeting about staging projects idea. We have quite some tasks[1] on our plate and more will surely come as great part of this project is investigating possibilities. We are going to work in two week sprints and we already selected few tasks for the first sprint[2] that we are going to start working on right away. Apart from that we found even some area of small non-blocking tasks[3] if you want to help. We expect this section to grow over time as well. In general, you can track our progress in redmine[1], but don't worry, when sprint ends, we will report our progress. We are available on #opensuse-factory and #opensuse-project on freenode (scarabeus knows best the current state, but you can offload some easy questions to me - |miska| is my nick). We are also reading mailing lists, so if you have questions, feel free to ask :-) The important part of the message is that we are starting to work and you can track what we are doing. More about this project is in mail[4] that coolo sent on Monday. [1] https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/stagings/issues [2] https://progress.opensuse.org/versions/68 [3] https://progress.opensuse.org/versions/69 [4] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-01/msg00278.html -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. openSUSE Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openQA plans
by Antonio Larrosa 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hi, Last week we discussed how to proceed with our work on openQA integration in Factory development. As you know from our initial workflow proposal [1], openQA would be inserted between devel/staging projects and Factory; and 'after' Factory to create Factory-Tested. Our final goal with openQA and Staging projects is: *help the creation of Factory-Tested*, as a version of Factory that is more stable. As staging projects are still very experimental [2] our first priority will be to get openQA ready for a public deployment suitable for user interaction. That is, get openQAv2 out so packagers can check the testing results and QA volunteers can help create tests. After openQA has been made available publicly, we will move on to pre- integration testing. We expect that making openQA available publicly will take around 1 or 2 months but readying openQA and OBS for pre-integration testing will take 2 to 3 months after that. After this, we want to move on to: * make test creation easier * integrate openQA for integration testing The order of these is not clear yet. Timeline-wise, our goal is that by August, we have made serious progress in one of those. We are adding tasks to progress.opensuse.org [3] and will give regular updates on the status of our work on this mailing list. Cheers, Antonio Larrosa [1] https://github.com/SUSE/hackweek/wiki/Improved-Factory-devel-project-submis… [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-01/msg00278.html [3] https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/openqav3/issues/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Delete requests for failing packages
by Stephan Kulow 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hi, I just filed several drop requests for packages that fail for more than 100 days. This is basically all of webyast (actually when webyast is out, I would like to drop nginx too as it's only in factory for webyast and is a bitch of a package ;( and libsyncml. You're free to resubmit fixed packages. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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