September 2013 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

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by Edward Reiss 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

The file /lib/mkinitrd/scripts/setup-btrfs.sh in btrfsprog currently has the following content: #!/bin/bash # #%stage: filesystem mkdir -p $tmp_mnt/etc/udev/rules.d cp /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/80-btrfs.rules $tmp_mnt/etc/udev/rules.d It should be changed to read: #!/bin/bash # #%stage: filesystem mkdir -p $tmp_mnt/etc/udev/rules.d cp /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/64-btrfs.rules $tmp_mnt/etc/udev/rules.d 64-btrfs.rules comes with udev. -- Edward Reiss ebreiss(a)gmail.com Quis custidiet ipsos custodes? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Is installation to RAID supposed to work?
by Carlos E. R. 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I get an error on "add raid": "There are not suitable unused devices to create a raid" Which is false: sda and sdb are totally empty. I'm testing B1 (Build0725) under vmplayer. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJGC3MACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XsSwCeJ+Ggc6Vcizgx5UbGBvd/mZei ldIAmwYKXCo7kFAQeZVmHIwhDMo4gfCv =9SLc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [yast-devel] YaST installer - the future development (for 13.2/SLE12, aka "the new installer")
by denisart benjamin2 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Le 27/09/2013 17:11, Ladislav Slezak a écrit : > Dne 27.9.2013 16:15, Johannes Meixner napsal(a): > [...] >> collect-data.party1 ... collect-data.partyN >> install.party1 ... install.partyN >> apply-config.party1 ... apply-config.partyN >> >> The YaST core team implementation should be just one of those parties. > Well, this needs to be supported to make it work, but so far we thought that having > one process is really important to avoid the overhead of starting new program, > parsing the config file, probing hardware, initializing libzypp... > > But there's no final decision regarding this, we will need to try it and see > how it works. > > > -- > If you wan't interesting ideas for yast installer, I think you shoud look at katpan, the Pardus Yast2-installer equivalent, which purpose users optimisations. Of course it's only user preferences side. It could be great to purpose wifi configuration, drivers installation ( by using hardware detect backend ). Regards. Benjamin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] BtrFS as default fs?
by Jeff Mahoney 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hi all - Last month I posted queries to this list (and several other locations, including the forums) asking about people's experiences with btrfs. For the most part it seemed like the experience had improved over time. Most of the concerns were either with interactions with zypper or old perceptions of instability that were based more on old impressions than new testing. With the exception of an ENOSPC issue that had been recently fixed, users actively using the file system seemed pretty satisfied with it. I posted a followup question a week or two later asking what people thought about limiting the 'supported' feature set in the way we do in SLES so that it's clear to all users which parts of the file system are considered stable. A quick table of what that looks like: Supported Unsupported --------- ----------- Snapshots Inode cache Copy-on-Write Auto Defrag Subvolumes RAID Metadata Integrity Compression Data Integrity Send / Receive Online metadata scrubbing Hot add/remove Manual defrag Seeding devices Manual deduplication (soon) Multiple devices "Big" Metadata (supported read-only) Over time this table will change. Items from the Unsupported list will move to the Supported list as they mature. That proposal was pretty well received except, predictably, by those using the features listed. In practice, all that's required for those users to continue uninterrupted is to add the 'allow_unsupported=1' option to the btrfs module either on the kernel command line or /etc/modprobe.d. There is nothing inherently limiting to any openSUSE user with this practice. The features are all still in the code and available immediately just by setting a flag. It can even be done safely after module load or even after file systems that don't use the unsupported features have been mounted. I intend to introduce this functionality into openSUSE soon. One other aspect to consider: Even though they are independent projects, we've been focusing heavily on btrfs support in the SLES product. As a result, the openSUSE kernel will end up getting much of that work 'for free' since most of the same people maintain the kernel for both projects. So that's the "why it's safe" part of the proposal. I haven't gotten to the "why" yet, but then you probably already know the "whys". Subvolumes. Built-in snapshots that don't corrupt themselves when an exception table runs out of space. Built-in integrity verification via checksums. Built-in proactive metadata semantic checking via scrubbing. Online defrag. Soon we'll see online deduplication of arbitrary combinations of files. The code is written, it just needs to be pulled in. You've seen the rest of the feature set. Once we test more of it under load and ensure that it's mature enough to roll out, you'll get those features for free. So, I'd like to propose that we use btrfs as the default file system for the 13.1 release before we release the first beta. Thanks for your time. -Jeff -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs

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[opensuse-factory] linphone + zrtp - how to use it?
by dieter 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hi list, according to /usr/share/doc/packages/linphone/NEWS linphone supports zrtp since version 3.5.2 and there were some corrections for it in 3.6.0. In 13.1B1 3.6.1 is included, but I can't figure out how to activate zrtp. I found there should be an "encryption" option in the settings, but I can't find it. I found also hints that linphone uses libzrtpcpp2 which was not installed on my system. Installing it (and its requirements) also made no difference. The ~/.linphonerc contains a value "media_encryption" - which seems always to be set to none by linphone. Does anybody successfully use zrtp with linphone in openSUSE and can give a hint? Regards, Dieter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Any outstanding packages to be uploaded to Tumbleweed for download?
by Roman Bysh 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hello Tumbleweed Users, Are there any outstanding packages to be uploaded to Tumbleweed? Or, can I download tonight or wait till the weekend? -- Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Mate for Factory
by denisart benjamin2 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Hello Stephan, I have again non-Factory devel repo error "'X11:MATE:Factory' is not a valid devel project of openSUSE:Factory - please pick one of the existent" Can you fix it please ? Thanks you. Greetings. Benjamin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Beta 1 looking good, network config is a bit iffy
by Per Jessen 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842450 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server-rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Request to change KDE Patterns for 13.1 due to upstream changes
by Raymond Wooninck 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Hi Stephan and Factory maintainers, I would like to inquire if it is still possible to make some last minute changes to the current KDE Patterns for 13.1 The reason behind is last minute changes upstream. The two changes would be: 1) Drop the current NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm. Beginning of this week upstream decided to drop support for NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm and the later is seen as the new standard NetworkManager plasmoid. 2) Suggest phonon-backend-vlc as the new MultiMedia backend instead of Gstreamer. This monring I read upstream messages that current the gstreamer backend should be considered unmaintained and this is also one of the reasons why it was never ported to Gstreame-1.0 and still uses the old Gstreamer_0.10 framework. Upstream is currently looking for a new maintainer, but the question is if they will find one. Both plasma-nm and phonon-backend-vlc are already in Factory, so it would just concern a change in the patterns. Subsequently we could also drop NetworkManager-kde4 completely. Please let us know if this change would be allowed, so that we can update the patterns in git and submit them to Factory/13.1. Thanks openSUSE KDE Community team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Documenting the openSUSE Development Process
by Jos Poortvliet 25 Sep '13

25 Sep '13

Hi all, The openSUSE team has been working on documenting the openSUSE Development process. As we've documented the release process before [1] it was now time for the work done up to the first Beta: the Factory Development. There exist a Factory Development Model page [2] on the wiki, giving a very high level overview of how we collaborate (with devel projects, staging projects and our governance). We added a short summary to it but the more extensive documentation can be found on the Development Process page [3]. It is a complicated process so the documentation is extensive. We nonetheless hope you have time to have a look and give us feedback on it. Thanks and have a lot of fun, The openSUSE team [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Release_process [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Factory_development_model [3] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Development_Process

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