[opensuse-factory] Request to change KDE Patterns for 13.1 due to upstream changes
Hi Stephan and Factory maintainers, I would like to inquire if it is still possible to make some last minute changes to the current KDE Patterns for 13.1 The reason behind is last minute changes upstream. The two changes would be: 1) Drop the current NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm. Beginning of this week upstream decided to drop support for NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm and the later is seen as the new standard NetworkManager plasmoid. 2) Suggest phonon-backend-vlc as the new MultiMedia backend instead of Gstreamer. This monring I read upstream messages that current the gstreamer backend should be considered unmaintained and this is also one of the reasons why it was never ported to Gstreame-1.0 and still uses the old Gstreamer_0.10 framework. Upstream is currently looking for a new maintainer, but the question is if they will find one. Both plasma-nm and phonon-backend-vlc are already in Factory, so it would just concern a change in the patterns. Subsequently we could also drop NetworkManager-kde4 completely. Please let us know if this change would be allowed, so that we can update the patterns in git and submit them to Factory/13.1. Thanks openSUSE KDE Community team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.09.2013 07:27, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Hi Stephan and Factory maintainers,
I would like to inquire if it is still possible to make some last minute changes to the current KDE Patterns for 13.1 The reason behind is last minute changes upstream.
The two changes would be:
1) Drop the current NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm. Beginning of this week upstream decided to drop support for NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm and the later is seen as the new standard NetworkManager plasmoid.
2) Suggest phonon-backend-vlc as the new MultiMedia backend instead of Gstreamer. This monring I read upstream messages that current the gstreamer backend should be considered unmaintained and this is also one of the reasons why it was never ported to Gstreame-1.0 and still uses the old Gstreamer_0.10 framework. Upstream is currently looking for a new maintainer, but the question is if they will find one.
Both plasma-nm and phonon-backend-vlc are already in Factory, so it would just concern a change in the patterns. Subsequently we could also drop NetworkManager-kde4 completely.
Please let us know if this change would be allowed, so that we can update the patterns in git and submit them to Factory/13.1.
I don't see that - such things you change before Beta or even before feature freeze and not before the RC. None of what you suggest has seen any wide spread testing. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 26 September 2013 08:49:01 Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 26.09.2013 07:27, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Please let us know if this change would be allowed, so that we can update the patterns in git and submit them to Factory/13.1.
I don't see that - such things you change before Beta or even before feature freeze and not before the RC. None of what you suggest has seen any wide spread testing.
Hi Stephan, Before Beta we didn't had any indications that these changes would be done upstream. As indicated the Gstreamer being unmaintained only came up this morning. The target was just to prevent having packages that are no longer maintained upstream upon release of 13.1. Maybe the plasma-nm hasn't seen that much testing, but I am sure that quite a number of people switched over to the VLC backend when it became available. But you gave a clear answer, so this is how we proceed further. I hope that at least we are still allowed to resolve the situation around Bluez 5 ? Either by getting an newer version of Bluedevil in 13.1 or by having a bluez4- compat package in 13.1. Otherwise openSUSE 13.1 will ship a KDE desktop that doesn't have Bluetooth support. Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.09.2013 09:51, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Before Beta we didn't had any indications that these changes would be done upstream. As indicated the Gstreamer being unmaintained only came up this morning. The target was just to prevent having packages that are no longer maintained upstream upon release of 13.1. Such bad timings happen all the time.
Maybe the plasma-nm hasn't seen that much testing, but I am sure that quite a number of people switched over to the VLC backend when it became available.
But you gave a clear answer, so this is how we proceed further. I hope that at least we are still allowed to resolve the situation around Bluez 5 ?
Yes, that part was agreed to before beta1. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 26. September 2013, 07:27:46 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
Hi Stephan and Factory maintainers,
I would like to inquire if it is still possible to make some last minute changes to the current KDE Patterns for 13.1 The reason behind is last minute changes upstream.
The two changes would be:
1) Drop the current NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm. Beginning of this week upstream decided to drop support for NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm and the later is seen as the new standard NetworkManager plasmoid.
I tried plasma-nm one or two weeks ago and it did not work for me. Applet appeared, but I was not able to create connections. just my 10c -- Adrian Schroeter email: adrian@suse.de SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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