July 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] how do I boot to a text console in 12.2?
by lynn 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

In 12.1 I just type 3 at the prompt. In 12.2 I don't seem to have the opportunity to type 3 anywhere. Thanks, L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenTTD: An open source clone of Chris Sawyer's Transport Tycoon Deluxe
by Ammler 27 Aug '12

27 Aug '12

Dear openSUSE Factory Team OpenTTD is now for some years completely independent from the original TTD with its own graphics, sound and music. Therefore I would like to submit the package to openSUSE Factory. The brief description from http://www.openttd.org/en/about reads: OpenTTD is an open source simulation game based upon the popular Microprose game "Transport Tycoon Deluxe", written by Chris Sawyer. It attempts to mimic the original game as closely as possible while extending it with new features. Together with the package openttd, there are two data packages and one building tool: - openttd with subpackages openttd-dedicated (no SDL dependency) and openttd-data (noarch) - openttd-opengfx (required graphics) - openttd-openmsx (optional midi music) - nml (building tool for opengfx) (all 4 packages use license GPL-2.0) There is a third data package openttd-opensfx, but this does not fulfill the license requirements and so can't go to Factory (Creative Commons Sampling Plus 1.0, which means basically no commercial use). This is no big deal, like music sound is just optional and you can easily be downloaded ingame via the content service. Players get notified if they start openttd the first time. Some upstream developers of these dependent packages are also member of the OpenTTD dev team. This ensures that dependencies always work together. Also upstream has a very professional release workflow, which makes it easily maintainable for distro packager. There is a yearly major release on April 1st (no fool) and around 4 to 5 minor security/bugfix releases (http://security.openttd.org) Also there are security patches for older major release branches to support LTS distros, which do not update main releases during same distro. Usually it is very recommend to use the same versions as upstream to keep compatible with Network Multiplayer Games. But as openSUSE has a very short lifetime, this should be no issue. Development project is games. openttd is part of included there for ages. In order to ensure openttd and its support packages build on Factory, I created a temporary project: home:openttdcoop:Factory There you can find the 4 packages I submit to Factory. I heavily reworked the packages to make it "Factory capable" and didn't yet submit those changes to games. (review welcome) Currently, I don't submit testing releases (beta or RC) to games and keep those in home:openttdcoop. If openttd will be accepted in Factory, this might change. My next steps are now waiting for some comments here (around a week). If there won't be any arguments against submitting, I will submit openttd, openttd-opengfx, openttd-openmsx and nml from games to Factory. Please don't hesitate to answer, all kind of Feedback welcome. :-) Greets Marcel "Ammler" Gmür -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Re: Why bin & no bin64? => lets fix lib64=>lib, bin(32),lib(32)=>/usr32/{bin,lib}
by Linda Walsh 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Michal Hrusecky wrote: > Linda Walsh - 12:25 28.07.12 wrote: >> Nelson Marques wrote: >>> Ever heard of FHS? It's stands for Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. >>> >>> Enjoy the reading :) >> ---- >> It is based on really screwed up reasoning. Why was it accepted? >> >> Regardless, Suse doesn't follow it now, so why not move ahead with >> a more soundly reasoned solution. > > AFAIK, we follow it, do you have any counterexample? ---- I gave a bunch of statistics 35% of the binaries in bin are 64bit. bin contains only 25% of the overall packages, so only 20% of the libraries in lib & lib64 are 32-bit. The rest are 64-bit. The original reasoning was continued and widespread usage of 32-bit programs. However, If I look at what those 32-bit programs are supporting -- in bin: master-boot-code-1.22-7.1.2.i586 sas_ir_snmp-3.17-1092.i386 sas_snmp-3.17-1092.i386 sas_snmp-3.17-1092.i386 sas_ir_snmp-3.17-1092.i386 sas_ir_snmp-3.17-1092.i386 ---- Suse's boot code. and some 3rd party snmp HW drivers that I don't run or need. So we have 20% of the libraries reserving 65% of /usr/lib for 1 suse program? Um... is that a good enough counter example? > > You might need 32-bit and 64-bit libraries at the same time as you may > have 32bit program requiring it and different 64bit one at the same > time. On the other hand having both 32bit version and 64bit version of > program doesn't really make huge sense apart from few minor specialized > cases. ---- Can't think of too many examples, most are because they haven't gotten a new version out yet. Can you think of a counter-example? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Secret key for Secure Boot with Windows 8 and 12.2
by Roman Bysh 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Hello all, I've been reading that Ubuntu is providing a secret key for the "Secure Boot" so that Ubuntu may be installed alongside Windows 8. Since 12.2 is coming out in September and Windows 8 is being released in October. What are the plans? Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Thermal issues with kernel 3.4 (64bits)
by Raymond Wooninck 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Hi, I just wanted to check if I am the only one that has thermal issues with the 3.4 kernel ? I see the following behavior : 1) Load the notebook with a gcc acitivity until all processors are 100% load 2) Shortly after you get notifications that a thermal event is reached (CPU's > 100 degrees) 3) Kernel reacts and shutdown the system. Strangely enough the same task with an 3.3 kernel can easily survive and also under Windows I do not have any problems. Checking bugs.kernel.org I found something with regards to this effect and they suggested to load the thermal module with nocrt=1 so that the activity on the first trippoint is not initiated. This indeed helps a lot and it seems that even with a high load the notebook doesn't get that hot. Also no shutdown is initiated. I also tried kernel 3.5 from Kernel:HEAD and this one has the same effect with the temperature. However using the nocrt=1 option, I get a different undesired effect. Once the temperature gets to a certain point, the kernel lowers the speed of the CPU's to the lowest point. Once the CPU's are cool'ed down, this maximum speed should be increased again. With kernel 3.4 this works as indicated. With kernel 3.5 however this maximum speed is not changed anymore until a reboot. I also filed the following two bugs for this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=773563 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=767692 Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] bluetooth not working since kernel 3.4.4
by Stefan Seyfried 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

(redirecting to factory again) Am 27.07.2012 17:55, schrieb "Stefan Brüns": > > > Am 07/27/12, schrieb Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried(a)googlemail.com>: > > >> The problem is, that starting a service by default is considered bad. >> And I am still looking for ideas on how to start it only if a bluetooth >> adapter is present... :-( > > > should be working out of the box already (see systemd for Developers II [1], Hardware Activation in Detail): > > cat /lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service > [Unit] > Description=Bluetooth service > After=syslog.target > > [Service] > Type=dbus > BusName=org.bluez > ExecStart=/usr/sbin/bluetoothd -n > StandardOutput=syslog > > [Install] > WantedBy=bluetooth.target Yes, but it only works if we "systemctl enable bluetooth.service" And then bluetoothd is started regardless of an adapter being present... -- Stefan Seyfried "If your lighter runs out of fluid or flint and stops making fire, and you can't be bothered to figure out about lighter fluid or flint, that is not Zippo's fault." -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dropping packages courier-* and *fam*
by Freek de Kruijf 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Already in openSUSE 12.1 the fam service does not work. This remains the same in 12.2. The family of courier packages depends on this service. The alternative is to use dovecot, which does not need the fam service. So I propose to drop the family of courier and fam packages from the openSUSE distribution. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Force disable LVDS Downclock on intel graphics?
by Trent Hawkins 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Hello, I am running Tumbleweed off openSUSE 12.1. In the past i used "i915.lvds_downclock=1" as a power saving measure on my laptop, but realised that it caused annoying screen flickering and made it impossible to use an external display. So i disabled this option and have had a functioning laptop since then. However since i ran zypper dup last week and updated the kernel to 3.4.6-34, this display instability has returned. When i plug in an external monitor via HDMI (or VGA) i can sometimes use it for a couple of minutes before the graphics card starts switching the output between displays and flickering, rendering it impossible to use. It is often worse if i only use the external display (i.e. disable laptop display). I suspect this is due to some kernel change which has allowed the lvds downclock power saving measure to work (i.e. without being forced). Can anyone confirm this? Also can i force disabling this option by entering in "i915.lvds_downclock=0" at the kernel line? Thanks in advance, Trent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Installing openSUSE 12.2 RC on Zotac ZBOX computer not working?
by C 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

This is a bit of an odd one. I've tried to install both openSUSE 12.1 and 12.2 on my Zotac ZBOX (Atom D510 1.6GHz, with 3GB RAM, Intel GMA 3150 video). The ISO starts up and I see the initial loading screen. If I follow the console output it gets right up to launching the YaST installer, and the screen blanks with a cursor flashing in the top left. It just stays here... the YaST Installer never starts. What/where can I look to see what's going on here? The console output during the startup isn't too helpful. No errors show up there (at least not that I can see). i can't even see anything helpful or useful to put into a bug report (if that's even what is needed here). Generally this computer is very Linux compatible... and other distros will install just fine... it's only openSUSE that fails to make a go of it. C -- openSUSE 12.1 x86_64, KDE 4.8.4 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] libcdio from git
by Mariusz Fik 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Hi, is there any reason why we use libcdio git snapshot in 12.2? For Factory it's totally fine but for 12.2 RC1 (almost RC2)? The newer version have changed api and some external pacakges may be broken... -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik openSUSE Community Member GPG: 5FCE 7241 B3B9 32FD 455B C30E 42D6 6C88 9E83 7C3D

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