June 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 12.2 deserving of attention?
by Jos Poortvliet 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Genix Info <genixinfo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Jos Poortvliet, please resolve these bugs and features: I don't understand why you ask me to do that? I'm sure the people working on those things would be happy with merge request. I'm barely able to build a basic package on OBS so I surely won't be able to do any of that... I understand you care about these things but off-topic replies to random mails won't exactly get you anything... (Incidentally, I personally don't care for any of them and IF I could do such work and would have time for it I'd work on different things). Cheers, Jos > OpenSUSE Linux, including SuSEfirewall2, not has full support for IPv6 only. > > http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet… > > Bug 742758 - openSUSE Linux 12.1 LXDE x86_64: /home partition problems: > > Joined on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742758 > > Add BleachBit installed by default, the current version: 0.9.2. > > Top list openFATE: > > > 1 - Update Documentation: > > https://features.opensuse.org/313311 > > 2 - Add the packages: linux-atm-lib, smpppd and WvDial in: Live CD, USB > Live...: > > https://features.opensuse.org/312580 > > > This is here to do just that: > > Now please add smpppd (Smpppd - openSUSE) by default already installed, > configured and ready to use in version 12.2. > > 3 - Mount NTFS partitions user-writeable by default: > > https://features.opensuse.org/310229 > > > > > > > > > > I expect a response. > > > > > > > > > > 2012/6/3 Jos Poortvliet <jos(a)opensuse.org> >> >> Hey all, >> >> If you think there's something cool coming in openSUSE 12.2 which deserves >> some attention of press and users, add it to this page: >> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Upcoming_features >> >> If you notice something there which is wrong - please fix it! >> >> Note that you don't have to be a developer or packager for either of the >> things above - if you're an user reading this list but you happen to know >> of something that's new and missing, just add it! >> >> Links to explanations of the feature or new or much improved package are >> appreciated. We'll use this page for the release announcement and articles >> about the new release. >> >> If you want to help with anything around promo, tell us on the opensuse- >> marketing list! >> >> Let's make 12.2 rock. And let's make sure the world KNOWS it! >> >> Hugs, >> Jos > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ISO C11 support in 12.2?
by Carl-Daniel Hailfinger 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

Hi, is openSUSE 12.2 ready for ISO C11? AFAICS gcc 4.7 seems to be mostly ready for C11, but apparently glibc trunk has quite a few changes for C11 support which are missing in the latest glibc release. A possible quick check is to run gcc -std=c11 (with appropriate warnings switched on) for source code which contains a call to strdup(). That function is part of C11, but not of C99. If your C library is not C11 capable and if your compiler is not using a builtin, that should trigger a warning. Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Security or Convenience? Defining a better policy
by Andreas Jaeger 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

I just put the following on my blog as well (http://jaegerandi.blogspot.de) and look forward to your help defining a better policy: The openSUSE security concepts have been changed gradually over the years with new tools like PolicyKit, PolKit and its usage in system tools. It's time now to step back, and review what we have and want. Marcus and Ludwig from the SUSE security team and myself have discusssed over the last weeks a bit and like to open this to a broader round now to get your help defining what needs to be done. = Challenges we face = Administrating a system in a secure way is always balancing the needs and requests of security, convenience and usability. There's also the additional challenge that upstream projects often have a different view on either of these and therefore make different decisions and influencing upstream projects is quite often a difficult task. = Background = Linus Torvalds in his Google+ rant (https://plus.google.com/u/0/102150693225130002912/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5) "I first spent weeks arguing on a bugzilla that the security policy of requiring the root password for changing the timezone and adding a new wireless network was moronic and wrong. I think the wireless network thing finally did get fixed, but the timezone never did - it still asks for the admin password. And today Daniela calls me from school, because she can't add the school printer without the admin password. ... So here's a plea: if you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace "my kids" with "sales people on the road" if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, ..." = How to continue? = We've collected a couple of use cases for the administration of a local system at: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Security_use_cases For each use case we added a short security evaluation but in most cases don't give a recommendation on what to do. Call for action: Review and discuss http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Security_use_cases using the following questions: * Are there any use cases missing? * Is there any thing missing in the specific use cases? * How can we solve these use cases so that a system is easy to setup for the most common usage scenarios? Let's do the discussion on the opensuse-factory mailing list, I'll update the document with any improvements. Feel free to enhance it as well. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Getting Plymouth to work in Beta 1
by Roman Bysh 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Hello all, Has anyone been able to get Plymouth to work by it's default setting? What other packages are required? Cheers! Roman ----------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ----------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Adding udisks2 polkit privileges
by "Stefan Brüns" 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Am 06/04/12, schrieb Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus(a)gmail.com>: > Under KDE3 session I have similar output: > > Session1: > unix-user = '1000' > realname = 'anixx' > seat = 'Seat1' > session-type = '' > active = TRUE > x11-display = ':0' > x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7' > display-device = '' > remote-host-name = '' > is-local = TRUE > on-since = '2012-06-04T13:43:07.686552Z' > login-session-id = '4294967295' > > > Still Udisks2 backend fails to function properly without the modified polkit policy. So most probably pk is completely broken on your system. Whats the output of e.g. pkcheck --allow-user-interaction --process $$ --action-id org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-lsof-system-internal ; echo $? If it exits with "Authorization requires authentication but no agent is available.", also pass "--enable-internal-agent" to the above command. You may exchange the action id with any other, a list of possible actions is available via pkaction Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] automount problems
by "Stefan Brüns" 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Am 06/04/12, schrieb Vincent Untz <vuntz(a)opensuse.org>: > Le lundi 04 juin 2012, à 17:46 +0200, "Stefan Brüns" a écrit : > > My experience shows that ck is largely broken, or a least lacks in several aspects. It does not support multiseat (only one active session at a time), it does not support remote sessions (e.g. via LTSP) (unable to find the correct session at all). Whereas the former at least shows the pk authorization dialog, although for the wrong 'active' state, the latter is unable to show a dialog at all. > > > > These problems can be solved by using systemd-logind. This needs a newer/patched polkit package. Anyone interested in testing this can find one in home:StefanBruens:branches:Base:System . > > > > Session state can be queried using systemd-loginctl. > > > > Pros of systemd-loginctl: it works > > Cons: it *might* depend on systemd, but I have not tested this. > > IIRC, it does indeed depend on systemd at runtime, with no proper > fallback to ConsoleKit when the system is not booted with systemd. > > And that's why we've not switched the polkit package (and several > others, including gdm, NetworkManager, gnome-packagekit, etc.) to use > systemd-logind. It's a bit annoying, if you ask me :/ Hm, AFAIK the only packages depending directly on ck vs systemd-logind should be the session manager and policykit. Support in the session manager is only needed for full multiseat support (i.e. exporting SEAT settings), which leaves policykit. It should not be to difficult make pk fall back to ck, as the ck code is already there. I am currently running 12.1 with both console-kit-daemon and systemd-logind active (which is the default) and the logind only policykit. For a single local user, ck and logind show the same information, as soon as there are multiple logins at least logind provides the correct information. If there is interest I could include the ck fallback into my pk package. Any chance to get this included in 12.2? Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] perl-RPC-XML failing on Factory/x86_64 and preventing the perl update
by Stefan Seyfried 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hi all, perl-RPC-XML is failing a test in Factory / x86_64 and I have no idea how to fix that. It really looks weird. But this blocks my installation from updating perl, YaST and lots of other goodies, so I'd really appreciate if a perl-module guru could take a look (I'd guess that actually perl-XML-Parser or such is broken but I don't really know it). Best regards, -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Adding udisks2 polkit privileges
by Ilya Chernykh 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hi! I hope Vincent can clarify this. I want to add the following polkit rules in 12.2 kdebase3 package which are needed for its new Udisks2 backend written by Serghei Amelian recently: === Action=org.freedesktop.udisks2.* ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes === Can I add this rules file to my package? Or this is already implemented in 12.2? Without these rules the backend does not work properly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] automount problems
by "Stefan Brüns" 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Am 06/04/12, schrieb Patrick Shanahan <paka(a)opensuse.org>: > * Marcus Meissner <meissner(a)suse.de> [06-04-12 02:44]: > > > > The ConsoleKit handling is the responsibility of either the display > > manager (xdm, kdm4, gdm have support for it) or can be explicitly set > > in the PAM snippet of your service. > > > > You can check if this is done by doing: > > > > $ ck-list-sessions > > > > which should print something like: > > > > Session1: > > unix-user = '1000' > > realname = 'Marcus Meissner' > > seat = 'Seat1' > > session-type = '' > > active = TRUE > > x11-display = ':0' > > x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7' > > display-device = '' > > remote-host-name = '' > > is-local = TRUE > > on-since = '2012-06-04T04:44:46.209182Z' > > login-session-id = '4294967295' > > Thanks for this, may be the problem I have with automounting. > > My ck-list-sessions reveals "FALSE" to "active" and "is-local". > systemctl [start/restart] console-kit-daemon.service > does not help > > What do I need to do the achieve "automounting" My experience shows that ck is largely broken, or a least lacks in several aspects. It does not support multiseat (only one active session at a time), it does not support remote sessions (e.g. via LTSP) (unable to find the correct session at all). Whereas the former at least shows the pk authorization dialog, although for the wrong 'active' state, the latter is unable to show a dialog at all. These problems can be solved by using systemd-logind. This needs a newer/patched polkit package. Anyone interested in testing this can find one in home:StefanBruens:branches:Base:System . Session state can be queried using systemd-loginctl. Pros of systemd-loginctl: it works Cons: it *might* depend on systemd, but I have not tested this. Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Beta
by Stephan Kulow 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hi, I just updated the opensuse-release field to say Beta 1 as the live cds work ok (even though there are some glitches) and the DVDs can be installed too (even though you don't want to create a /usr partion at the moment). All in all something I can release tomorrow *fingers crossed*. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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