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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] status distribution
by Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

Forwarding message that my genius phone sent using the wrong address: > Sent from Kevin Yeaux's cellular telephony device. > > On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After we finally found the root cause of the stalls in >> installation, I'm only >> polishing and then I hope to have a Milestone 1 on thursday. >> >> Greetings, Stephan > > Greetings! > > Great news. According to the Roadmap, there is still no set 11.2 > roadmap. Are we waiting for the first milestone to release one, or > is there something else holding it up? No hurry, just wondering > about the lack of a roadmap :-) > -- > Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy > "Anybody seen my Tabasco?" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] RFC: what to put on the live cds
by Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Sent from Kevin Yeaux's mobile device. > > On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Ken Schneider - Factory <suse-list3(a)bout-tyme.net > > wrote: > >> Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy pecked at the keyboard and wrote: >>> >>> Both? For one desktop? Why? Evolution does the job just fine, I >>> don't >>> see why we would want to have two email clients. >> >> Hmm... Choice? > > Hmm... We offer choice. After the installation, you can install any > client you want from our repos, but for a default installation we > shouldn't include multiple apps that do the exact same thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- > Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy > Long emails, moderate temper, no talent(TM) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] status distribution
by Stephan Kulow 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi, After we finally found the root cause of the stalls in installation, I'm only polishing and then I hope to have a Milestone 1 on thursday. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Czech Packagers Team meeting 2009-04-14
by Pavol Rusnak 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Czech Packagers Team meeting 2009-04-14 ======================================= Present: anicka, mhrusecky, mseben, mvyskocil, nadvornik, pgajdos, prusnak, puzel, sbrabec Minutes: prusnak Topics: (1) upgrade to libusb1 (2) xsane and its friends (3) status reports ----- (1) upgrade to libusb1 Sbrabec tried to upgrade libusb0 to libusb1 + libusb-compat in beta phase of openSUSE 11.1. We received a lot of bug reports, and it was switched back to libusb0. Upstream tried to fix these issues and marked 1.0.0 branch as stable. Sbrabec wants to try the switch again, please report any problems with the libusb packages. (2) xsane and its friends After some discussion over last week's minutes*, packages sane-backends and xsane stayed in Factory and package sane-frontends was moved to Contrib repository. * http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2009-04/msg00148.html (3) status reports anicka - cfengine: work on update to version 3, fix #487781 - pam_ssh, perl modules: update to current versions jmatejek - testing factory, reporting compiz bugs - work on python-gtk - trying to convince it's buildsystem to accept python-numpy (without success so far) mhrusecky - fixing mysql-gui-tools compilation against gcc44 - working on updating mysql-workbench - packaging mysql connector/cpp needed by new version of mysql-workbench mseben - hdparm : updated to 9.15 - kbuild : updated to 0.1.5svn2336 - virtualbox-ose : prepared updated to 2.2.0 - audacity : investigating bnc#494278 audacity didn't work after resume mvyskocil - prepare og esmska update in Contrib - update gle-graphics in Contrib - fixed bnc#493146 (openjdk + pulseaudio owerflow) - sent patch for bnc#492820 (package aaa_base) - ITO: * small scout java improvements * better commit messages handling for osc pgajdos - octave update to 3.0.5 prusnak - adapting Packaging Guidelines - attended LinuxExpo to discuss about Xfce puzel - update debhelper to 7.2.7 - update rsync to 3.0.6pre1 - work on less (investigate current patches, work on update) sbrabec - libusb-compat: Debugging libusb0 incompatibility (bnc#443861). - kompozer: Debugging crash bnc#465291. - coolkey, gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad: Fixing bad code bnc#443369, bnc#443444. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Adding DB2 Express-C to non-oss repo
by Robert Schweikert 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

There is an interest within the IBM group responsible for the development for DB2 to make it easier for users to get and install DB2 Express-C, the free version of DB2. I'm wondering if people have any opinions about adding free (as in beer) non oss packages to the non-oss repository? Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Software Engineer Consultant LINUX rschweikert(a)novell.com 781-464-8147 Novell Making IT Work As One -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Czech Packagers Meeting minutes 2009-04-07
by Michal Hrusecky 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Czech Packagers Meeting minutes 2009-04-07 ========================================== Present: nadvornik, puzel, sbrabec, pgajdos, mseben, mhrusecky, anicka, mvyskocil Minutes: mhrusecky Topics: (1) Community Week (2) Dropped packages (3) Changelogs (4) Proposals pages (1) Community Week: =================== There is going to be held Community Week[1] (starting at 20th April). We should participate as mentors for packaging day. Help people with packaging and submitting to the Contrib. Maybe this opportunity can be also used by community members to clean up their home repositories. Ideas are already presented on wiki page[1]. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Hackweek (2) Dropped packages: ===================== puzel told us about packages dropped from Factory. One really interesting group of packages dropped was xsane and sane frontends. We all agreed that these packages are really useful and should maintained somewhere. So puzel proposed that he would maintain it in Contrib and if he'll encounter any problems he wouldn't have time to solve, we will help him. Other Interesting dropped package was bash-completion. But this one was dropped because of several serious bugs and poor support upstream so no easy solution for this package. (3) Changelogs: =============== mhrusecky is working on submiting new MySQL into factory. But this package was for a long time maintained in separate repository in BuildService and there was some changes in old package meantime. So there is a problem how to merge changelogs. Currently the easiest way seems to be to commit all changes in development branch as one changelog entry to the old changelog and replace old package with a new one. But this may occur more frequently with cooperation in BuildsSrvice so maybe it would be good idea to have some formal rules how to solve such situation. We also discussed results from discussion on mailing list about changelogs. Result from this discussion was that what we should write in changelogs is only packaging changes and leave a note where to find detail information about changes during package update. (4) Proposals pages: ==================== During discussion about changelogs mvyskocil mentioned that Fedora has some wiki pages with proposals/upcoming changes which are not official yet, so people can discuss these changes, everyone can read these proposal's and people can prepare for these changes. It may be a good idea to have something similar, especially with planned opening of factory. Status reports: =============== anicka: - openssh: investigate #489209 - cfengine: fix #487781 jmatejek: - removing python-numeric dependency from python-gtk - work on updating SUSE Studio support packages mhrusecky: - working on merging development version of MySQL with factory version - working on fixing some minor issues in development version of MySQL mseben: - audacity : submitted patch to fix build issues in factory (problems with linking against wxGTK) - audacity : submitted fix of bnc#477654 (missing expression in return) - doxygen : created patch for bnc#489947 (disabling build date in html footer) mvyskocil: - fixed bnc#492555: tomcat6+confluence wiki crashed under openjdk6 puzel: - closed #469337 - deb: dpkg --print-architecture prints empty string - fix #467332 for 11.1 - 467332 - Incomplete tools for Debian packages (deb) sbrabec: - pcsc-*, opensc, openct: Updated, modalias supplements, fixes (bnc#438131, bnc#474818, bnc#466430, bnc#304149, bnc#440853) - libusb-1_0, libusb-compat: Update. -- Michal Hrusecky Package Maintainer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o e-mail: mhrusecky(a)suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Quanta fish kio status on KDE4 for 11.1 and 11.2?
by David C. Rankin 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Listmates, I wanted to check and get the latest on whether the Quanta fish kio problem in kde4 has been resolved for 11.1 and if not will it be for 11.2? If not, can something like a kdebase3-runtime be included in 11.2 so we don't lose functionality? Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Fwd: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Plans and Issues for ATI fglrx Driver for 11.2?]
by David C. Rankin 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Plans and Issues for ATI fglrx Driver for 11.2? Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:31:14 -0500 From: David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> Organization: Rankin Law Firm, PLLC To: suse <opensuse(a)opensuse.org> References: <49DEF757.4000103(a)suddenlinkmail.com> <20090410123829.GA3247(a)suse.de> <49E84821.5000204(a)suddenlinkmail.com> <20090417100233.GA22234(a)suse.de> Stefan Dirsch wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 04:13:05AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: >> Stefan Dirsch wrote: >>> I don't see what the openSUSE community can do here. ATI is only >>> interested in bugs, if they affect and being reported by big vendors >>> like e.g. HP. But these big vendors are only interested in using >>> SLES/SLED. >>> >> Hmm.. >> >> Stefan, I'm not sure I follow here. Isn't openSuSE the forerunner for what >> will end up in SLES/SLED? If so, it just seems to make more sense from a >> quality assurance perspective to address any issues at the beta (openSuSE) >> stage before they end up having to (react) to problems with SLES/SLED. The >> proactive/reactive issue. Moving the bug identification/resolution a bit >> further upstream if you will. >> >> The absolute crushing blow ATI is dealing its users by dropping support for >> all R300-R500 cards is simply amazing. Nvidia still provides support for all it >> cards with the legacy driver. If there is ever a contact at ATI it would be >> worth suggesting a similar "legacy driver". That just seems like common sense. >> But then that too is uncommon in todays world. (i.e. a global economy built on >> "credit default swaps" -- give me a break...) >> >> Hopefully we can find someone with a fglrx.com email address that will >> entertain some candid feedback and suggestions instead of the current "linux >> driver feedback" which from what I can tell == /dev/null > > If you're interested in becoming a beta tester for the fglrx driver, > just let me know. Then you can play the proxy between the openSUSE > community and ATI and will notice that ATI ignores the feedback of > beta testers as well. > > Best regards, > Stefan > Oh, Great?! That's encouraging... It seems that ATI commitment to its Linux driver program is superficial at best. That's is the real bottom line here. It's a "take what you get" mentality. All of it's great lip service about wanting "Linux Driver Feedback" and "being interest" in resolving driver issues, is not worth the silicon its written on. You have worked far more of these issues than I have, and we have worked issues together through bugzilla at lease since late 2007, but I have never in my life seen the absolute ignoring of Linux user driver problems than I have in the past 6-8 months. As mentioned, I have filed ATI feedback cases on every single release since 8-10, provided all logs, confs, hardware specks, and it is very apparent that ATI hasn't lifted a finger to even try and identify the issue. The only finger lifted was to hit the [del] key. It has had a positive impact though. I will never purchase another laptop with ATI hardware in it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] What's happened to factory non-oss repo?
by Dave Plater 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

Hi, although the actual repository is fully populated zypper and yast can only see three packages. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: what to put on the live cds
by Stephan Kulow 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

On Wednesday 15 April 2009 17:40:28 Greg Freemyer wrote: > > I don't know if it is easy / hard, etc. but my primary use case for > the liveCD is not supported at all currently. > > If it could initiate distro updates to an already installed machine, I > would not have to download the DVDs at all. > > Every machine I have that has opensuse installed on it has Internet > access. I've found zypper dup to be highly unreliable, at least going > from OS 11.0 to OS 11.1. Use the NET isos. > > My ideal would be to download just the KDE liveCD and then use it plus > the online repositories to upgrade my various computers. Use the NET isos. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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