March 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] KDE 4.2.1 broken
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

Hello, is KDE 4.2.1 factory / 11.1 broken ? on my system i have no keyboard ( key repeat ) on the KDE List the most other user have also no key repeat in all languages ? With this problems KDE is not usable :(. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] eee-pc hotkey support not up to date..?
by Oddball 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

Hi, As i used this page: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_on_the_EeePC#ath5k , to orientate myself to install opensuse 11.1 on eee-pc, i noticed that it is not up to date anymore.. Is it possible to get the hotkey support for 11.1/11.2 in some online repo? F1 to F9 are most important.... ;) many thnx if someone would look into this... (many eee-pc owners on the dutch pda- forum are very interested in opensuse on eee-pc..) -- Have a nice day, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-pae i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EEE-PC-901-ROB Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (i586) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.9" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenOffice-3.0.99.3 x86_64
by Markus Koßmann 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Today factories OpenOffice was updated to 3.0.99.3. However the *extensions*x86_64.rpms didn't made it into factory ( these packages are available in OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE). That causes nasty dependency problems ( one option is to downgrade to i586 because the i586 extensions are not missing). Is there any problem with these packages or is the problem only that they weren't propagated to the factory repo ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Please Ristretto back instead of Gimp for opening images from browser in 11.2
by Oddball 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

Hi, Ristretto is just plain, simple, scalable, simple zoomable, and for all very fast. Gimp is like opening photoshop to vieuw one picture... To vieuw a pic, you need a vieuwer, not a manipulator.. ;) (gimp takes ages to load, cluttering the screen with unnessesary windows...) I guess you all know that, and it wil be build problems or something, and it will be back soon? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.29-rc8-5-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] I think we have a record!
by Fred A. Miller 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

It's been OVER 5 weeks now, and we can't update our beloved OpenOffice, because the packager can't seem to get the 5 "extension" packages over their dependency issues!! Can we expect that to happen in the near future, or do we have to wait for 11.2? Thanks, Fred -- "The fundamental premise of liberalism is the moral and rational incapacity of the American people." ~ Fred Miller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] pulseaudio integration
by Tamas Sarga 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I sent a letter to opensuse@, but I haven't got any reply, so I try here, maybe someone can turn me to the right direction: I don't have the resources at the moment to test a new install, so I ask here. The way how pulseaudio integrated into the system is different with new install and upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1? I did an upgrade, and I had to configure gconf to hear anything from Amarok. Flash plugin doesn't have sound also. I found a good page http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup . I played some hours while I localized the source of problem, which caused a soundless Amarok. So my question is what decision was made about pulseaudio. If it will remain and this non-integration is not the fault of my upgrade, than some work would be nice on this side. Please write your thought, how this situation should be resolved. By documentation or to make it works out of the box? I'll try to spend time to this problem, so I want to help. On the other hand, if Pulseaudio will be removed from 11.2, then nothing to do. Cheers, Tamas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknQ/XUACgkQsuVyj8v2Zy6NNwCeJ0H08VchhQRdJ+ZqWLt+shkC WGMAnRng4easETwfRx1jEaU6iKrDoZNF =JXaW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Difference in install behaviour, bug, or intended?
by Oddball 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

Hello, Maybe, it is not the right place, but i think it is... As i installed 11.1 some 6 times in a few days, on eee-pc-901, i noticed some strange things: Installing from images: to me, very unpleasant installing: lots of noise from dvd-drive. Disabled: very smooth, quiet, noiseless install. When i change to ifup, before trying networkmanager first, there is no internet test, and no updates are done. Additional: there is no sound. When i first try networkmanager, let it fail, and than change to ifup: internet test, and updates being done before first login, and, sound works normaly. And believe me, these things are consistant. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.29-rc8-5-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How to dis/enable a bootloader?
by Oddball 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

Hi, Since i bought an eee-pc, i am again confronted with XP. Today i exchanged the original 16GB ssd, for a faster 64GB runcore ssd. Now i am able to dual or triple boot on a bigger drive. (sd card does not realy perform) As this os (xp) and i do not realy get along, i used Norton ghost to be able to backup my fully upgraded and tuned XP, to be able to restore the image without any fuss. The whole operation, complete with installing the xp-backup image, took me little less than half an hour. The case is that Ghost does not support bootloaders, but performs great. 1) Is there a way to easily disable/enable grub? As XP is the first on the drive, it would not be difficult to boot when the original mbr is reinstalled, as i allready tried that... (it is in the boot dir, and not in /var/lib/yast2/backup-boot_section/mbr, by the way, as in the release notes from 11.1 is stated...) or: 2) Where should grub be installed for the least trouble? And in case XP would stop booting, which can have many causes, but mostly a virus, i will have to reinstall the original mbr, and restore the backup. After that use an installation dvd/cd, to reinstall grub, or something like that. thnx for a useble answer.. M9. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Snapshot 11.2 A0 x86_64 is quite unstable.
by Oddball 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

Hi, As this is a snapshot, i do not know whetter to file bugs ot not. Strange selecting problems in tbird, ff, and Oo after some time, keybord failure: figures cannot be typed, as if shift is pressed. Selected items, like mail, won't open, scrolling does not work. No normal reaction from keyboard after coming back from screensaver. in this way that you can type, but entering does not return, only mouse works with some comment: wrong password. The second time doing the same, unlocks the screen. Sometimes relogin works, sometimes not. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.29-rc8-5-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-factory] RE: [opensuse-factory] Please Ristretto back instead of Gimp for opening images from browser in 11.2
by Greg Freemyer 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Oddball <monkey9(a)iae.nl> wrote: > Andrew Wafaa schreef: >> If you would like a Qt4 based image viewer then AFAIK Gwenview should be the default for KDE4. >> >> Regards, >> >> Andy >> >> -- >> Sent from a Nokia E71 >> Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. >> openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org >> >> . >> > That was allways default, yes. > Until gimp .... I have seen other posts, that if you're getting gimp, then it is likely a user misconfiguration, I disagree. I have a pretty clean install of 11.1 with KDE 4.2 from the stable repo. Download a jpg via firefox then double click on it from the download window and I get gimp. I agree, gimp is overkill for a default image viewer. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] RE: [opensuse-factory] Please Ristretto back instead of Gimp for opening images from browser in 11.2
by Andrew Wafaa 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

If you would like a Qt4 based image viewer then AFAIK Gwenview should be the default for KDE4. Regards, Andy -- Sent from a Nokia E71 Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org . -----Original Message----- From: Oddball Sent: 29/03/2009 14:50:51 Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Please Ristretto back instead of Gimp for opening images from browser in 11.2 Andrew Wafaa schreef: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:37 +0100, Oddball wrote: > >> Vincent Untz schreef: >> >>> Le vendredi 27 mars 2009, à 10:05 +0100, Oddball a écrit : >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Ristretto is just plain, simple, scalable, simple zoomable, and for all >>>> very fast. >>>> Gimp is like opening photoshop to vieuw one picture... >>>> To vieuw a pic, you need a vieuwer, not a manipulator.. ;) >>>> (gimp takes ages to load, cluttering the screen with unnessesary windows...) >>>> I guess you all know that, and it wil be build problems or something, >>>> and it will be back soon? >>>> >>>> >>> For which desktop? >>> >>> In GNOME, as far as I can tell, eog is used by default, and not gimp. >>> >>> Vincent >>> >>> >>> >> If you'looked at the sig, you'd known it was:.... ? :) >> >> -- >> >> Enjoy your time around, >> >> >> Oddball, aka M9. >> >> >> OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 >> Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 >> Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) >> KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 103" >> >> > > Eye Of GNOME is the default image viewer for GNOME and there's no reason > to replace it. If I remember correctly the default under KDE is > Gwenview, and again it works fine (at least for me :) ). > > When complaining of an issue like this, please advise us on what your > environment is - even if it means saying something like "please see sig > for environment". > > Ristretto is actually an XFCE sub-project although as it is Gtk based it > works seamlessly with GNOME. Why would you want a Gtk based app replace > a Qt4 app in a KDE environment? > > Regards, > > Andy > > That i did not know, but explains why it is not choosen now: i did not install xfce yet...! I will try what happens when i install xfce.. Well, i would like a qt4 based app, if it works fine.. I never saw ristretto before my original and now, wrecked 11.2A0 install, which i replaced with the last netinstall snapshot. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.29-rc8-5-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Bugzilla down
by Markus Koßmann 28 Mar '09

28 Mar '09

I'am getting a "504 Gateway Time-Out" when trying to access bugzilla.novell.com. Is this planned outage ? ( I've seen no announce for it) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenOffice 3.0.99
by Markus Koßmann 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

When running " zypper dup" I'am getting the following conflicts. I hope the missing I10n packages willl be provided with the next update. But there is one strange thing. This is x86_64 system but it says two times:" needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.i586". Should I open a bugreport for that ? Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... 18 Problems: Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras = 3.0.99.1 needed by OpenOffice_org-3.0.99.1-1.1.x86_64 Problem: OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras-3.0.0.16-2.4.noarch requires OpenOffice_org-ure = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-3.0.0.16-2.2.x86_64 requires OpenOffice_org-components = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-3.0.0.16-2.2.x86_64 requires OpenOffice_org-filters = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-3.0.0.16-2.2.x86_64 requires OpenOffice_org-libs-core = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-3.0.0.16-2.2.x86_64 requires OpenOffice_org-libs- extern = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-3.0.0.16-2.2.x86_64 requires OpenOffice_org-libs-gui = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: OpenOffice_org-l10n-de-3.0.0.16-2.4.noarch requires OpenOffice_org- ure = 3.0.0.16, but this requirement cannot be provided -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] jack-0.116
by Sid Boyce 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

I have some applications that depend on jack-0.116. Building and installing the package under /usr or /usr/local I get "unable to connect to jack server as client". Any suggestions welcomed/any chance having jack updated to 0.116.2/.3 in Factory. I am using KDE4, so arts.desktop doesn't exist. The following messages are from qjackctl as shipped in Factory or that I have built locally. 01:53:21.942 Logging started --- Wed Feb 18 01:53:21 2009 --- 01:53:21.982 Patchbay deactivated. 01:53:21.994 Statistics reset. 01:53:22.022 Startup script... 01:53:22.022 artsshell -q terminate 01:53:22.027 ALSA connection graph change. kcminit(29005)/kcontrol: "Module arts.desktop not found" 01:53:31.722 Startup script terminated with exit status=256. 01:53:31.722 JACK is starting... 01:53:31.722 /usr/bin/jackd -v -R -dalsa -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:EMU0404 -Phw:EMU0404 -i1 -o1 getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib64/jack/jack_alsa.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib64/jack/jack_dummy.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib64/jack/jack_freebob.so 01:53:31.748 JACK was started with PID=29157. getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib64/jack/jack_net.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib64/jack/jack_oss.so jackd 0.116.2 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. server `default' registered cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1356740880, from thread -1356740880] (1: Operation not permitted) cannot create engine cleaning up shared memory cleaning up files unregistering server `default' 01:53:31.815 JACK was stopped successfully. 01:53:31.815 Post-shutdown script... 01:53:31.815 killall jackd 01:53:31.937 ALSA connection change. jackd: no process killed 01:53:32.224 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. 01:53:33.945 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] nouveau Test Day (at fedora project.... Share alike?)
by Ted Bullock 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

Hi folks, I have been using the nouveau driver for the past 6 months or so and have been really quite satisfied with it. I especially like how nicely it plays with the gnome display settings tool given that I have a dual monitor workstation. Check out the nice and short xorg.conf... http://pastebin.com/fb186196 There is even work in progress to get rid of the need for the icky "Virtual" entry (eliminating the need for the whole "Screen" section). Although I am an openSUSE/OpenBSD user pretty much exclusively these days, I was pleasantly surprised to hear about the Fedora test day regarding the nouveau driver. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-26 Anyways, since I want to see the driver stabilized so that it can eventually be supported in openSUSE land, I figured I would pass along the above link (11.3 or 12.0 time frame perhaps?). It's just a live CD, think about giving it a whirl. As a side note, if you run the driver over here on openSUSE be sure to uninstall compiz (you end up with a white screen) and it tries to load if composite is enabled (or something like that). -Ted -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] I think we have a record!
by Cristian Rodríguez 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Fred A. Miller escribió: > I've been nice for over 5 weeks. Long enough. There is a lot of work to do, you know... -- "If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed" -George Carlin (1937-2008) Cristian Rodríguez R. Software Developer Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/

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[opensuse-factory] Wifi on eee-pc-901 does not work after online update.
by Oddball 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Hi, My attempts to get the wifi back to work failed. It is like the new yast interface does not use the correct handles, and does not save the settings. Wired works without any problem. I get very tired of the fact that the wifi always has to fail... It is just so stupid to have an ultra portable device, which you always have to put on a cord, so you cann't move... It works out of the box when installing from dvd, and as soon as the updates have come, it is broken, very sad. -- Have a nice day, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-pae i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EEE-PC-901-ROB Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (i586) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.9" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] status distribution
by jdd 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Kevin Yeaux a écrit : > Yes, this is a major detraction for openSUSE's installer. If a user > needs something other than the default suggestions, it can be > difficult to learn how to change it. the present system is good for experts, but not for dummies (that don't mind of raid or lvm) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] status distribution
by Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM, jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote: > yep. > > should be much more like gparted, with graphical partition view Yes, this is a major detraction for openSUSE's installer. If a user needs something other than the default suggestions, it can be difficult to learn how to change it. Perhaps this is something that should be handled as a feature in openFATE? I'll create it and link to it. -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy openSUSE Member http://www.twitter.com/KevinDupuy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] No column sort in yast2 qt software manager
by Raymond Wooninck 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

On 25/03/09 13:59, Dave Plater wrote: >> What mouse driver are you using according to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? >> Is this the evdev driver ? The current Factory version of Xorg is no >> longer utilizing the xorg.conf file to handle the mouse and keyboard >> drivers. If the logfile is indicating the use of evdev, then maybe both >> bugs are indeed related to each other (however with different >> effects/issues) >> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log indicates mouse_drv.so is being used. > Regards > Dave Plater > Ok, that rules out that evdev is the guilty one here. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] No column sort in yast2 qt software manager
by Raymond Wooninck 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

On 25/03/09 11:17, Daniel Fuhrmann wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2009 10:20:51 schrieb Dave Plater: >> Dave Plater wrote: >>> Raymond Wooninck wrote: >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> On 25/03/09 09:08, Dave Plater wrote: >>>>> Hi, does anybody else have the problem of no column sorting in yast2 qt >>>>> software manager. I opened bug >>>>> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478041 which was made a >>>>> duplicate of https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474331 which >>>>> doesn't look the same to me and the test for a qt4 problem passed with >>>>> me. Am I the only one who can't sort columns in software management? >>>> I am experiencing the same problem. I checked out bug 474331, but with >>>> me it doesn't make any difference whether I am using the mouse or the >>>> touchpad. Neither one is working regarding sorting. >>>> >>>> However it could very well be that these two bugs are still related to >>>> each other as that my Xorg.log is reporting to utilize the evdev driver. >>>> What I can remember is that a number of issues appeared after the change >>>> of the Xserver version. Most of them I could resolve by setting the >>>> right keyboard within KDE4 (as that this is no longer taken from the >>>> xorg.conf file), but this sorting issue within YaST2 remains. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Raymond >>> The bug that mine was made a duplicate of was for 11.1 and AFAIK 11.2's >>> package manager is different and hasn't got the tabs to switch between >>> the main views. Are you experiencing this problem with factory? If so I >>> will reopen my original bug. >>> Regards >>> Dave P >> BTW I only have a mouse. >> Regards >> Dave P > > I've this problem, too. > > For me its in 32 and 64 bit factory. Maybe so few recognized it so far, > because they only do zypper (d)up. > > Daniel Dave and Daniel, I am using the latest Factory i586 build and I am running KDE4-Unstable. I rather use YaST Software Management to preform the updates then to use zypper. Find it easier :-) What mouse driver are you using according to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Is this the evdev driver ? The current Factory version of Xorg is no longer utilizing the xorg.conf file to handle the mouse and keyboard drivers. If the logfile is indicating the use of evdev, then maybe both bugs are indeed related to each other (however with different effects/issues) Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] No column sort in yast2 qt software manager
by Raymond Wooninck 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hi Dave, On 25/03/09 09:08, Dave Plater wrote: > Hi, does anybody else have the problem of no column sorting in yast2 qt > software manager. I opened bug > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478041 which was made a > duplicate of https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474331 which > doesn't look the same to me and the test for a qt4 problem passed with > me. Am I the only one who can't sort columns in software management? I am experiencing the same problem. I checked out bug 474331, but with me it doesn't make any difference whether I am using the mouse or the touchpad. Neither one is working regarding sorting. However it could very well be that these two bugs are still related to each other as that my Xorg.log is reporting to utilize the evdev driver. What I can remember is that a number of issues appeared after the change of the Xserver version. Most of them I could resolve by setting the right keyboard within KDE4 (as that this is no longer taken from the xorg.conf file), but this sorting issue within YaST2 remains. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] No column sort in yast2 qt software manager
by Dave Plater 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hi, does anybody else have the problem of no column sorting in yast2 qt software manager. I opened bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478041 which was made a duplicate of https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474331 which doesn't look the same to me and the test for a qt4 problem passed with me. Am I the only one who can't sort columns in software management? Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] status distribution
by Stephan Kulow 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Hi, Currently we have quite some build failures in Factory, nonetheless I would like to target an alpha1 soonish as we reached the kernel 2.6.29-final milestone. I hope to have something by the end of the week to test internally and then we push some more fixes in over the weekend, so it can be released next week. No promises though :) Of course you can test drive the live cds and factory snapshots as they are published, but I want to createn an official snapshot. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Czech Packagers Meeting minutes 2009-03-17
by Michal Vyskocil 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Czech Packagers Meeting minutes 2009-03-17 ========================================== Present: nadvornik, sbrabec, mkudlvasr, puzel, jmatejek, prusnak, mseben, mhrusecky Minutes: mvyskocil Topics: (1) Build rpms for SUSE using BitBake (2) lib64 default in autoconf's configure (3) RPM version for popcon: popcorn (4) Installation of restricted content proposal (5) Status reports (1) Build rpms for SUSE using BitBake ===================================== BitBake[1] and OpenEmbedded[2] is an advanced package building environment based on simple recipes and package classes. sbrabec works on a setup that will allow to build packages for openSUSE there. [1] http://developer.berlios.de/projects/bitbake/ [2] http://www.openembedded.org/ (2) lib64 default in autoconf's configure ========================================= ./configure: Default to lib64. It is possible to default to /usr/local/lib64 while calling ./configure without arguments. Should it be done by default? [1] [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=382344 (3) RPM version for popcon: popcorn =================================== prusnak wrote a popularity-contest alternative for RPM distros. This was announced on [2]. However this package could not be submitted to Factory now, because we have no server to send the results to. Prusnak sent an e-mail to Peter Poeml, but he is probably on vacation, so we have to wait further [2] http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2009/03/popcorn-popularity-contest-for-rpm/ (4) Installation of restricted content proposal =============================================== Sometimes is necessary install a content which is under some restrictions (patents, copyrights) which prevents us to include it to openSUSE, but is necessary for our users. Two biggest examples are: multimedia support and device drivers (firmware). puzel wrote a proposal of ease installation of restricted software for openSUSE. [3] [3] http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague/Restricted_drivers_and_multimed… (5) Status reports ================== anicka: - perl modules: update to current versions, fix update scripts - [internal] openssh: worked on #456494 - did some reviewing for contrib jmatejek: - reviewing python and python3 patches, upstreaming where possible - splitting python3, reviewing and upstreaming patches - work on python packaging guidelines - examining fedora's python - reviewing ruby packages for SUSE Studio mhrusecky: - fixing some issues in MySQL 5.1 - getting some sblim packages to build again in factory mseben: - updated : hdparm,colordiff - virtualbox-ose : investigating bnc#484333, factory build doesn't start - audacity: working on fix for factory build mvyskocil: - fixed various tomcat6 bugs in Factory: - bnc#418664 - Tomcat6 installation has missing bits - bnc#471639 - tomcat does not start/work (sysconfig removed - also fixs bnc#471639) - fixed bnc#424675 - Access rights to /etc/tomcat6 directory not set right - fixed and sucesfully tested bnc#484760: tomcat6 broken forwarding on 11.0 - created a tracking bug bnc#485933 - for bugs in tomcat6 in openSUSE 11.0 (will be released after successful test of sysconfig removal bnc#471639) - bnc#485299 - Ant <xslt> tasks fail with NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/xml/serializer/SerializerTrace - ITO: popcorn [1] reimplementation based on PackageKit. Not successful due missing functionality of PackageKit [2] - ITO: packaging of parrot 1.0 for openSUSE (now is in home:mvyskocil). Noticed mls about it. pgajdos: - updated mtools to 4.0.10 - fixed #485603 -- mkdosfs man-page incorrect puzel: - updates: debhelper, global - continue with packaging OCRopus - closed #473684 - GnuPG does not start scdaemon correctly - work on #480818 - pinentry-qt dialog does not handle dead keys - fix #455774 - tcpdump doesn't work on usb0 network device - work on Contrib (reviewing packages, add cgdb) sbrabec: - Research on auto-prefixing configure to lib64. (bnc382344) - translation-update-upstream: Preparing more packages (FATE#301344). - INOVATION: Fixing problems of openSUSE packages build with BitBake and OpenEmbedded. URLS ==== [1] http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2009/03/popcorn-popularity-contest-for-rpm/ [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/packagekit/2009-March/004559.html [3] http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague/Restricted_drivers_and_multimed… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] The place to report missing deps?
by Oddball 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Hi, When i try to get to 11.1 factory DE4.2 , 32bit, there are many unfullfilled deps. (with 64 bit this is not the case.) Please do not bother the dutch language, as there is only stated which packages are missing, and which cannot be installed because of it. #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2009-03-24 09:21:40 #### niets levert libgnokii.so.4 nodig door kde4-kaddressbook-4.2.1-99.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kaddressbook-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert libexiv2.so.5 nodig door kde4-gwenview-4.2.1-81.2.i586 [ ] kde4-gwenview-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert libpoppler-qt4-3 = 0.10.5 nodig door kde4-okular-4.2.1-81.2.i586 [ ] kde4-okular-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert libexiv2.so.5 nodig door strigi-0.6.4-21.10.i586 [ ] strigi-0.6.4-21.10.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door libkdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] libkdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door libkdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] libakonadi4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] konversation-1.1.77.svn942587-5.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kde4-kopete-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kde4-kmail-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kde4-knotes-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kde4-korganizer-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert libical0 >= 0.43 nodig door kdepimlibs4-4.2.1-71.2.i586 [ ] kde4-akregator-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdebase4-runtime-4.2.1-83.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-dolphin-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] PolicyKit-kde-0.2-20.40.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-ark-4.2.1-50.5.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kcalc-4.2.1-50.5.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-konqueror-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-konqueror-plugins-4.2.0-39.23.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-konsole-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kcolorchooser-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kgamma-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kgpg-4.2.1-50.5.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kdnssd-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kpat-4.2.1-49.4.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kio_sysinfo-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kio_kamera-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kfind-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kget-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kmahjongg-4.2.1-49.4.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kontact-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-keditbookmarks-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kmines-4.2.1-49.4.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kio_audiocd-4.2.1-43.8.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kmix-4.2.1-43.8.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-ksudoku-4.2.1-49.4.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-plasma-addons-4.2.1-57.11.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kreversi-4.2.1-49.4.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kwalletmanager-4.2.1-50.5.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-plasmoid-quickaccess-0.7.1-7.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kscd-4.2.1-43.8.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-ksnapshot-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdeartwork4-screensaver-4.2.1-30.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-krdc-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-krfb-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kwrite-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdebase4-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdepim4-wizards-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdepim4-4.2.1-99.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] skanlite-0.2.kde4.2.0-9.18.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] krusader-1.99.2.svn6248-21.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdenetwork4-filesharing-4.2.1-65.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] ktorrent-3.2-24.7.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdebase4-session-4.2.1-32.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdebase4-nsplugin-4.2.1-76.1.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] kde4-kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] deïnstallatie van kde4-kdm-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 [ ] kde4-kdm-branding-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren libschroedinger-1_0-0-1.0.5-42.pm.4.i586 vereist liboil-0_3-0, Maar aan deze eis kan niet voldaan worden niet-installeerbare aanbieders: liboil-0_3-0-0.3.16-0.pm.1.i586[packman/suse/11.1/] [ ] vervanging van liboil-0.3.15-1.28.i586 door liboil-0_3-0-0.3.16-0.pm.1.i586 [ ] libschroedinger-1_0-0-1.0.5-42.pm.4.i586 niet installeren [ ] Negeer enige afhankelijkheden van libschroedinger-1_0-0 niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] De volgende acties zullen uitgevoerd worden: libksane0-4.2.1-81.2.i586 niet installeren deïnstallatie van kdebase4-workspace-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 deïnstallatie van powerdevil-1.4.1-4.5.2.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 kdebase4-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren deïnstallatie van kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher-0.4-4.23.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebluetooth4-0.3-4.1.1.i586 deïnstallatie van compiz-kde4-0.7.8-9.1.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebase4-openSUSE-11.1-66.4.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-lang-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 [ ] kdelibs4-core-4.2.1-104.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] De volgende acties zullen uitgevoerd worden: deïnstallatie van kde4-kgreeter-plugins-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebase4-workspace-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 deïnstallatie van powerdevil-1.4.1-4.5.2.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 kdebase4-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren deïnstallatie van kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher-0.4-4.23.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebluetooth4-0.3-4.1.1.i586 deïnstallatie van compiz-kde4-0.7.8-9.1.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebase4-openSUSE-11.1-66.4.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-lang-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 [ ] libkde4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 niet installeren niets levert shared-mime-info >= 0.60 nodig door kdelibs4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 [ ] De volgende acties zullen uitgevoerd worden: deïnstallatie van kde4-kwin-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebase4-workspace-4.1.3-10.2.1.i586 deïnstallatie van powerdevil-1.4.1-4.5.2.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 kdebase4-openSUSE-11.2-4.10.i586 niet installeren deïnstallatie van kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher-0.4-4.23.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebluetooth4-0.3-4.1.1.i586 deïnstallatie van compiz-kde4-0.7.8-9.1.i586 deïnstallatie van kdebase4-openSUSE-11.1-66.4.i586 deïnstallatie van kde4-amarok-lang-2.0.1.1-2.1.1.i586 [ ] libkdecore4-4.2.1-104.3.i586 niet installeren #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### -- Have a nice day, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-pae i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EEE-PC-901-ROB Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (i586) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.9" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Provide SELinux policies
by Stephan Kleine 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Hi list. As you probably know openSUSE 11.1 comes enabled for SELinux but without policies ( http://news.opensuse.org/2008/08/20/opensuse-to-add-selinux-basic-enablemen… ) which makes it pretty much useless if one doesn't write all the profiles oneself (which is kinda unlikely). I would like to suggest to provide profiles & tools as well so SELinux becomes fully usable out of the box. Considering that we currently have 7+ months until the 11.2 release it at least should be possible to get started (as in not covering 100% of all applications which could wait till 11.3 ;D). However, since it is a pretty complex field with which not very many people familiar, the foundation probably has to be laid by a few folks who should know that stuff from the inside out (e.g. the security team). Once the foundation is laid policies could be added step by step even by people who aren't absolute experts in that field (needless to say that those have to be thoroughly reviewed). Testing certainly can be done by all as well. To get started it might probably help to have a look at the RHEL & Fedora policies since they use SELinux for quite some time and most likely learnt more than just a thing or two during this time. I'm aware that it still would amount to quite some work but the sooner it starts the earlier it is done. Last but not least it's probably superfluous to say that your SLE customers would love working policies as well ;D So, what do you think? Regards, Stephan PS: Could someone please create a feature for this on f.o.o? I would do it myself but can't do so because I'm not an official member. Thanks a lot in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] VMware 6.5 on Factory
by Dominique Leuenberger 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Hi, I'm perfectly aware that I'm running a 'risky' setup here.. nevertheless I was wondering if somebody else here sees the same behavior: My VMware HOST is openSUSE Factory, installed VMware 6.5.1 on top. Guest in VM running WinXP SP2. Get it working, can boot Virtual Machine, but it ahs very bad behavior: like keyboard 'mis mapped': - Pressing 'cursor down' for example always opens the start menu. Mouse acts sluggish, and many more annoyances. Does anybody else see such weird behavior? It happens with and without vmware-tools... The problem started to appear somewhere around 1 week ago... (kernel updates / xorg updates). Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.26 on openSUSE11.1
by Dominique Leuenberger 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

> > libffmpeg0-0.5-0.pm.1.x86_64 requires libswscale0 = 0.5-0.pm.1, but this > requirement cannot be provided > [x] Following actions will be done: > do not install libswscale0-0.5.0.18071-1.1.x86_64 > do not install libavdevice52-0.5.0.18071-1.1.x86_64 > do not install libpostproc51-0.5.0.18071-1.1.x86_64 > do not install libavformat52-0.5.0.18071-1.1.x86_64 > do not install libavcodec52-0.5.0.18071-1.1.x86_64 > [ ] deinstallation of libffmpeg0-0.5-0.pm.1.x86_64 > [ ] Ignore some dependencies of libffmpeg0 actually, libffmpeg0 is a dummy package without any content (besides a txt file). Nothing should really require it, and I'd suggest a 'deinstall of libffmpeg0). No function should be lost. I worst case, it might be that some packages have a hard dependency to this package... something that should not be in my opinion. > > libschroedinger-1_0-0-1.0.5-42.pm.4.x86_64 requires liboil-0_3-0, but > this requirement cannot be provided > uninstallable providers: liboil-0_3-0-0.3.15-0.pm.3.i586[repo_1] > liboil-0_3-0-0.3.15-0.pm.3.x86_64[repo_1] > [ ] downgrade of liboil-0.3.15-8.28.x86_64 to > liboil-0_3-0-0.3.15-0.pm.3.x86_64 > [x] do not install libschroedinger-1_0-0-1.0.5-42.pm.4.x86_64 > [ ] Ignore some dependencies of libschroedinger-1_0-0 That comes out of the fact that libschroedinger is in PM and also in the distribution. A possible workaround might be to 'downgrade' to the libschroedinger of the distribution. Not installing libschroedinger from PM is probably the best solution in this case. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.26 on openSUSE 11.1
by Terje J. Hanssen 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

Magnus Boman wrote: > As you might, or might not know, we are packaging GNOME 2.26 for both > Factory and openSUSE 11.1. > > I'm running this myself on all my machines and I don't have any > noticeable bugs, which means that you all can install and use it :-) > > For 11.1, you will need to add the following repos; > > http://widehat.opensuse.org/pub/repositories/GNOME:/Factory/openSUSE_11.1/ > http://widehat.opensuse.org/pub/repositories/GNOME:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1/ I got a few issues after the upgrade to Gnome 2.26 on openSUSE 11.1 x86_64: 1. Two dependency packages lack libempathy.so.22 is required by nautilus-sendto-1.11 beagle-0.3.9-13.16.x86_64 requires mono(taglib-sharp)=2.0.3.0 2. The Gnome terminal won't start (the Shell Console terminal works): # /usr/bin/gnome-terminal (gnome-terminal:25432): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so) initialization check failed: Gtk+ version too old (micro mismatch) Failed to get the session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked t he reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Falling back to non-factory mode. Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting. on too old (micro mismatch) (gnome-terminal:25432): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so) initialization check failed: Gtk+ version too old (micro mismatch) Failed to get the session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked t he reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Falling back to non-factory mode. Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting. 3. Pointing withe the mouse cursor on menus, wipes out the text on high lighted items. 4. XKB error message: Error activating XKB configuration. It can happen under various circumstances: - a bug in libxklavier library - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities) - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation X server version data: The X.Org Foundation 60900000 If you report this situation as a bug, please include: - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB - The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd terje@alfa:~> xprop -root | grep XKB _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc102", "no", "", "" _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc102", "no", "", "" terje@alfa:~> terje@alfa:~> gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd layouts = [no-latin1] options = [] model = ------------------------- Are these known issues there already exist solutions for? Any suggestions? Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.26 on openSUSE11.1
by Dominique Leuenberger 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 12:00 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > Magnus Boman wrote: > > > As you might, or might not know, we are packaging GNOME 2.26 for both > > Factory and openSUSE 11.1. > > > > I'm running this myself on all my machines and I don't have any > > noticeable bugs, which means that you all can install and use it :-) > > > > For 11.1, you will need to add the following repos; > > > > http://widehat.opensuse.org/pub/repositories/GNOME:/Factory/openSUSE_11.1/ > > http://widehat.opensuse.org/pub/repositories/GNOME:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1/ > 4. XKB error message: > > Error activating XKB configuration. > It can happen under various circumstances: > - a bug in libxklavier library > - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities) > - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation > >Not sure what this one is about. I'm pretty sure I've seen some >bugreport about XKB but.. Try looking in bugzilla since it might, or >might not be related. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478083 My solution there was: I solved it on my machine with: gnome-keyboard-properties There was us.map.gz in the list, as opposed to any other moment when I checked. Normally the keyboard type is more verbose (like USA, or USA with Euro) I added USA and then removed us.map.gz and the problem disappeared. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] factory live cds
by Stephan Kulow 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hi, I reenabled live cds - I tested the KDE i586 live and it worked. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] No more bash-completion in Factory?
by Vincent Untz 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hey, It looks like bash-completion was removed from Factory. Any reason for this? (my life is not as good as it used to be without completion for make, ssh and rpm) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Sysconfig removal in tomcat6
by Michal Vyskocil 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi all, due some never-ending problems with sysconfig configuration of tomcat6, the /etc/sysconfig/tomcat6 will be removed from SUSE's tomcat6 package and a one central point for configuration will be a /etc/tomcat6/tomcat6.conf. The change will be also backported to released distros (excluding SLE11, because this should wait on SP1). The tomcat6 will have a merging script in %post: 1.) When the value is in /etc/tomcat6/tomcat6.conf, add a commented value 2.) In other case add a value from sysconfig to tomcat6.conf The copy of old sysconfig will be placed in /etc/tomcat6/tomcat6.sysconfig.save. Please test it and let me know, if you found a bug. BTW: you can install a tomcat6 package from Java:packages project, which serves a backports of Java Factory packages to older distributions. Best regards Michal Vyskocil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Are there supposed to be build service packages in factory?
by Dave Plater 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi, I am attempting to update libzypp but I'm wary due to the fact that zypper wants to change vendor to build service for yast2-pkg-bindings-2.18.2-1.11.x86_64 and yast2-qt-pkg-2.18.4-1.7.x86_64. Should I ignore this or file a bug report about factory packages with the wrong vendor? Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] http://en.opensuse.org/Factory/Status
by Stephan Kulow 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi, I just created %SUBJECT - and we'll put a README in the factory/iso directory to avoid people downloading 700MB to find the same problems. So please: put problems with the live and net ISOs you find there. Of course you're free to write to the list too ;) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory doesn't boot on Virtualbox ose
by Daniel Fuhrmann 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

Yesterday I upgrade my Factory installation in Virtualbox ose, and it didn't boot anymore. I tried a net iso to get to repair mode, but booting faild too. Has anyone also recognized this? Daniel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-project] User installation choices/settings
by Rajko M. 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

I guess that this message fits better to factory mail list. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] User installation choices/settings Date: Friday 13 March 2009 From: manchette <manchette(a)free.fr> To: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org Hello all, i know there's been some work to improve the disk partionner during the install process, i tend to think the main goal was to simplify the whole install process with a unified application. Well, i got the opposite feeling for the screen was not refreshed immediately st of all (how come ?). And most of all for the text was not available entirely on the screen in my language (french). So you had to scroll a lot the screen to see what options you'd be able to implement on your hdds. Not only disturbing this could produce damage to a system if no serious caution taken. This was giving a feeling exactly opposite to the one looked for. Too bad. -- Fabrice ------------------------------------------------------- -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory Download hangs in yast2
by Brian O'Mahoney 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

I am getting intermittant hangs from ... URL http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/, non-oss, KDE:KDE4, then the 11.0 DVD any advice, hangs sometimes reproduce for the same rpm, sometimes not. -- Greetings (mit freundlichen Grüßen), Brian. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Help needed regarding Sleep Issue with kernel 2.6.29-rc6
by Raymond Wooninck 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi, Some time ago I already placed a post in this list with regards to the high power consumption that I noticed with the new 2.6.29 kernel on my IBM notebook. Currently I have filed two bugreports: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12846 and https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483457 I would like to know who else is experiencing the same and who could help with the questions received on the bugzilla.kernel.org ? Thanks Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] pulseaudio and latency
by Per Osbäck 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

hi, there is a discussion on the pulseaudio-discuss list[1] about kernels and their latencies. apperently openSUSE seem to have the highest latency. is there a reason that the default kernel isn't geared towards low latency? ie HZ=1000 etc.. this seem to cause a lot of dropouts in pulseaudio for some users... regards, Per [1] https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-February/003150… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Zypper ignoring factory packages...
by Jason Boissiere 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

I've just been backleveled to 11.1 from factory by a lack of attention while running "zypper -n dup -l". Investigation suggests the factory repo is being treated as empty by zypper: root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:16:19 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper lr -u|awk '/openSUSE111/||/factory\// {print $3,$10,$11}' factory | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss factory_debug | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/debug/ factory_nonoss | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss/ openSUSE111 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss openSUSE111_nonfree | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss openSUSE111_update | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:23 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r openSUSE111|wc -l 7558 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:28 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r factory| wc -l 6 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:39 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r factory Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type --+----------+----------+-------- i | openSUSE | openSUSE | product root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:08:06 :( 104 /root/factory_zypp # zypper in -D -r factory -t product openSUSE Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: rpm-4.4.2.3-20.1.i586 requires permissions, but this requirement cannot be provided deleted providers: permissions-2008.11.25-1.5.i586[@System] Solution 1: do not ask to install a solvable providing product:openSUSE > 11.1-0 Solution 2: ignore some dependencies of rpm Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/C]: 2 Resolving dependencies... Resolving package dependencies... The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE The following packages are going to be REMOVED: ConsoleKit ConsoleKit-x11 FreeNX MPlayer ModemManager MozillaFirefox <SNIP> ALL MY PACKAGES </SNIP> ypbind zisofs-tools zypper After the operation, 2.0 GiB will be freed. Continue? [Y/?]: n I've manually installed the factory package tools, but that just means zypper wants to revert them: root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:08:31 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper dup -D Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... The following packages are going to be downgraded: PackageKit PackageKit-lang aria2 boost-license gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit-lang libqdialogsolver1 libzypp satsolver-tools yast2-gtk yast2-libyui yast2-ncurses yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-qt-pkg zypper The following NEW packages are going to be installed: libboost_signals1_36_0 libpackagekit-glib10 The following package is going to be REMOVED: libpackagekit-glib11 The following packages are going to change vendor: PackageKit PackageKit-lang gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit-lang libqdialogsolver1 libzypp satsolver-tools yast2-gtk yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-qt-pkg zypper Overall download size: 7.9 MiB. After the operation, 843.0 KiB will be freed. Continue? [YES/no]: Manually fetching packages works fine, so I assume this is a meta-data problem, either on my system, or on the servers. Any ideas? Jason -- Jason Boissiere Senior Quality Assurance Engineer Ingres Europe Limited jason.boissiere(a)ingres.com PHONE +44 01753 559529 www.ingres.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] cloning a hard drive with YaST
by Sid Boyce 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Problem, I have a xfs 1TB hard drive with badblocks (/dev/sda1) and would like to clone it to another 1TB drive (/dev/sdc1), /dev/sdc is already partitioned and mkfs.xfs run. I've tried rsync, that didn't do it properly. Next I copied all the data across, but it gets confused on boot with the different namings in /dev/disk/by-id/ and what was copied across in /etc/fstab and the stuff in /etc/grub/. YaST in 11.2 Alpha0 doesn't now have an entry for cloning a system that I can identify. What's recommended? Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] main download.opensuse.org down? (mirrorbrain) outage?
by cagsm 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

doesnt answer at all atm 4me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Unable to install/update FF in 11.1 86_64.
by M9. 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 @wolfgang, I am not able to install FF, so i do not have bookmarks or passwords. This is the error message: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM is mislukt: Usage: usr/bin/update-mime-database [-hvV] MIME-DIR No directories in update-desktop-database search path could be processed and updated. error: %postun(MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.12-5.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Probably you know what to do about this? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.9" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm1Wz4ACgkQX5/X5X6LpDj5QwCeJ12KiqkvMuLz2zJu1SVVWD5W GPQAn1xvQ8lxhOiVDjbT0IKcudkxG9PD =rPhC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-buildservice] bug/feature request in/for installer image
by Christof Hanke 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Hello list, that's my first post here, so please bear with me... Adrian suggested I might discuss about the attached problem here. I guess I can try to reproduce it if that's desired. Thanks, Christof

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Antw: [opensuse-factory] kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-default breaks ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.582
by Stefan Kunze 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

>>> "Christoph-Erdmann Pfeiler" <Christoph-Erdmann.Pfeiler(a)gmx.de> 09.03.09 7.50 Uhr >>> Gentle readers, I've observed the phenomenon "kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-default breaks ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.582" on two different systems. Both are running SuSE 11.1 with current kernel update. Before the kernel update, both systems worked flawlessly on the video side. .... trimmed <<< Hi Christoph, the description of the Kernel Update said that this kernel Update breaks KABI (which means all external Kernelmodule) . According to the description it was necessary to create compatibility between Opensuse 11.1 and SLE 11 (they at the same Kernelversion now) Thisshould not happen again. as far as I am aware there is no updated proprietary ATI driver yet. (Nvidia provided one the day of the Kernelupdate over a week ago) best regards Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fw: Evaluation Partitioner/Grub.
by M9. 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *From:* Oddball <mailto:monkey9@iae.nl> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2009 11:52 AM *To:* opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org <mailto:opensuse-factory@opensuse.org> *Subject:* Evaluation Partitioner/Grub. Hi, This might seem much to read, so if you are not realy interrested in the subject, please skip. I write this, because it takes much time to set up dual, triple, quadruple or more boot, and it would be nice if it could be set up, and worked when done. Also, these set-ups are not made daily, and, they are supposed to be useable for a longer period of time. When starting to create such set-ups, it does not matter, that it takes time to do so, but that it can be done. So, when done setting up, one is not pleased to see some bugs, just there, so the whole set-up is unuseable. There was a discussion once about how to boot multiple os, without new kernel installs messing up grub, and making everything unbootable, but i could not find it. A construction with a seperate small partition with bootloader, only pointing to /boot directories of the individual systems, or something. Helas i forgot the exact set-up. If someone reminds, please reakt.. As i was aiming to install opensuse on an EEE-PC 901, i was confronted with partitioner and grub again, so time to share my thoughts. Partitioner looks much nicer, but has not become more simple to use. For this part, there should be an adequate helpfile to be able to get things done that have to be done. EEE-PC 901 comes with windows XP-pre-installed, and a Norton Ghost-image to restore the install. Ofcourse this kind of install blows all away, as it formats first, and than installs the image. It is a DVD, so one needs an USB-DVD Drive to use it. As i wrecked the xp install after a few days, i had no alternative, as to buy one, for i could not use windows to do anything. So i tried the 'restore' facility first, to see how and what. In 901, there is a bios option called 'bootbooster'. The only thing it does as i notice, is skipp the windows to enter the bios and detection of hw. Also, when enabled, the boot option screen cannot be entered, and it boots imediately into windows, so it has to be disabled, before one is able to perform restore or intallation tasks. Windows just is not my thing, but has all the options, as hotkeys, and tray-shifting apps working just fine. And it looks very smooth, on this small screen with large resolution: 1024x600. That makes it look like a fullgrown laptop. Someway, i just like to have more OS on a system, to choose from, it makes things look more complete, and the idea of having a choice, allways makes me feel better. Than i looked for ready to install Linux-OS. There are, Xandros, with a new beta, eeebuntu, and: opensuse. After some difficulties getting it, slow server, dying download, someone send me a dvd with the new Xandros beta on it. It works just like the asus-restore when booted from dvd: all blown away, no options where to install: no partitioner: only option to choose model, language and keyboard. Windows gone: only Xandros, buth with Asus support. - From the start i did not like it. Too simple, like for children or older people, that have to learn how to use a pc: Hidden rootfile-system, no /home. So not my thing also... eeebuntu would take me about 3 and a half hour to download, with 73-83Kb/s, option skipped. As i had the USB-DVD-Drive, and the openSuSE 11.1 installation DVD, i was ready to go. At this point, the partitioner makes ready to enter the stage. I realy enjoyed to watch the distinguished installer gui on this small screen: Looks realy beautifull, Fonts just big enough, not too big, very readable, all giving the illusion of space, much room, air to breath.. First the hw-detection and loading of the installer are very nice to see.. At this place i would like to thank those who did the job to be able to 'just' install onto an eee-pc. Taking care of the kernel modules allready onboard of the 11.1 installation DVD. All these things had to be done to make it work, and it does. The Partitioner. The default proposition, is using the ssd, and shrink windows to using half of it. I wanted to install on the sd. It is not simple to manualy configure what i want: primary, extended, fs. One has to be realy in it to remember: Do i need a primary here? Or can extended be ok? ( i recalled one time an os did not boot not being on the primary partition..but now i have on my pc's bootable partitions on the extended partition..) I went back to retry several times, did not overcome the problems without becoming very excited, too many questions, and i wanted to go on, so i choose to accept the default proposition: Shrink windows, and install on the ssd. Here i forgot to unmark the autoconfig option, because of going back and starting over it was marked again, and i did not notice. So i ended up with a hostname that i did not want, networkmanager that wasn't able to do the job, and an unbootable windows partition. (hd0,0) chainloader +1 ??? In other words: I was f****ed! openSuSE worked fine: installrepos allready configured, and after i changed to ifup, wifi worked, and i could upgrade. First 2 nessary, nicely selected, after that all the others, which brought me the fonts i needed, so it became acceptable to look upon. After the upgrade, the wireless network was gone again. I was not pleased, but changed to networkmanager, that still did not work, and back to ifup, and it worked again. These things are realy not nice. They can work, so they should. It must not be nessesary to manualy configure these things, again and again, in these days. As i had no usb-floppy-drive, to use fdisk to mbr back to windows, and install grub again, i thought: maybe the restore dvd does not erase the linux partitions: Wrong! It did. Now i was going to try my original idea: opensuse on the sd. I used an 8GB sandisk ultra II sd, as xtremeIII seemed to be to fast for the 901, according to somebody that tried that, as on the inside the sd reader goes through the usb 2.0, it cannot have the xtreme speed. OK. I decided to choose the default proposition the partitioner suggested: swap 1.47GB, (windows uses this amount also on the ssd) / 5GB, and /home around 995MB. Small, but it was a test anyway. It installs, but very very slow, and becomes even slower along the proces. The performance is alike, too slow, so i would not advise anyone else to try this also. (as i probably will go for opensuse 11.1, update to aqs far we can, with KDE4.2. Alone on the ssd. As that was not even sluggish when performing on the ssd, next to XP.) Grub. As the sd is an external drive, as usb-stick. The drive letter changes when fi an usb stick is not in the slot. The default here auto grub install, to install in mbr. As i noticed when checked. Now comes the problem: Only in the same config as the install was made the system boots. Were to put Grub? I wanted to put it on the sdcard, with the idea that if it would not be in the drive, it would automaticly boot windows. Because bios is set to boot from external devices first. It is very difficult to decide were it should go: sdc1, sdc2 or sdc3, because it sees the partitions: swap, /, and /home. The gui is very complicated, and maybe it is the dutch translation, but it is not obvious what to choose. I think, if one is forced to make the right decision, or else the system fails to boot, one should be able to do that, as one gets only one chance. Wrong decision, is unbootable system. My decision was not correct, but a black grub screen still enables me too choose, but only if all is the same as during the install. My wish was: to have adequate help on the place one needs it, and if it is there, it is understandable, and it works, but on the first place: Easy to use interface, with understandable choices! Partitioner. When in installer mode, no problem to make changes that concern changing partitionsizes. What about moving? A useable partitioner would be like partition magic. All real changes are performed before boot, when nothing is mounted. A gui, very visual, lets you make every change you want, and shows you how you want it: Resize, Move, delete create, some of these things are set in motion, only after the system is umounted ofcourse, so a batch file is created, which performs all the changes, one by one, before boottime, when nothing is mounted, will this not be possible to have in opensuse someday? Apart from some 'bugs', the partitioner is far more difficult to use than the old one. But i guess, nothing is finished imediately. The changes are created, now make them work right. Partitioner and Bootloader are most important, as they provide the opportunity to have more than one OS, or fs on one hw-system. One must have a secure feeling with them, and able to communicate in an understandable 'language'. Intuitivity would be inplace here, just like a depsolver, helping the user make the right decision. As computing power is available at this stage, it should be possible to use it to 'look ahead' when a decision is made, without performing it, to enable the user to make the right one, by proposing, as it works now, but more advanced? More than one possible scenario's that would work could be proposed, in advanced mode? Like an automatic simple mode, and an advanced multiple scenarios mode. And ofcourse, the bootloader should be placed on the right place! (unless one would be able to understand the options of it, than it would be obvious.) Or is that too much asked? Like when there are several drives, but every seperate one is too small, to bare a complete os with /home, like with the new eee-pc's. They have many opportunities: SSD, SD, 3xUSB 2.0, To propose to have only /home on an inserted 8GB Stick? The latter are just thoughts, to inspire, nothing more.. my 2cts. Oddball, from a ravaged eee-pc 901... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm1NXgACgkQX5/X5X6LpDi95ACgjx/pfGdhLP8bKQpykTrmysm+ hWwAoL552+3hk1Lwi4vYYexK480HBG/B =/PXS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] NET isos
by Stephan Kulow 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi, Just wanted to tell: the generic problems with the NET isos are gone. You should be able to file more concrete problems now :) I'm still fighting with the live ISOs though. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status Live ISOs
by Stephan Kulow 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

Hi, As we still don't have a kernel in Factory with the fix for aufs, I tried to use unionfs-fuse for our live cds and it almost works. So factory/iso now has build11 for the 4 live cds, but they can't start dbus as the unix domain socket can't be created. If someone wants to experiment, the ISOs are up. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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