November 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Boot problem returns
by Peter Nikolic 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Hi . Well OS11.2 RC2 latest updates Just done "zypper dup" it seems the old boot problem is back the machine if left to it's own devices will not boot into GUI i have to boot to init 3 log in as root then run init 5 to get a gui up it seems to just die at loading HAL that is the last thing that can be seen before the screen goes black HDD activity stops keyboard is dead the only thing is force a hard reboot . Machine is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 ATI Radeon express M200 PCI 5955 if memory serves correctly 1.5 Gb ram . No traces left in the logs to be found this is AFAIAK a SHOW STOPPER now so lets have some ideas from the ones in the know where do i look for info on the system Pete . the sig below is NOT the machine in question before anyone gets clever -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 12:45 up 22:11, 3 users, load average: 0.79, 0.53, 0.52

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[opensuse-factory] After update to RC2 - X11: Keyboard and Mouse deactivated
by Ralf Krüdewagen 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Hi and Moin, after upgrading my HP nc6400 notebook with intel graphics driver from openSUSE 11.1 to openSUSE 11.2 RC2 I had the problem, that keyboard and mouse were deactivated after starting KDM or GDM. So, I couldn't login to KDE. The following error appeared in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Keyboard[0] (WW) Disabling Mouse[1] This happened with the following settings in xorg.conf (working in openSUSE 11.1): Section "InputDevice" Driver "kbd" ... Section "InputDevice" Driver "mouse" Even after removing xorg.conf keyboard and mouse were deactivated. And the same after starting sax2. After googling for a solution I found this thread: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-April/045418.html It seems to be a problem with HAL. So, I configured the evdev driver in xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Driver "evdev" ... Section "InputDevice" Driver "evdev" and installed the HAL policy file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/x11-input.fdi from http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-April/045418.html. After restarting HAL, keyboard and mouse were working in X11. However, to double-check the problem I removed both changes (HAL file and driver back to kbd and mouse). After restarting the system (init 0) I had no more problems with keyboard and mouse, even though the config was the same than before when I had the problems. And the "AllowEmptyInput is on" warning is still existing. Very strange. Cheers Ralf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] What is opensuse-codecs-installer?
by Carlos E. R. 07 Nov '09

07 Nov '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have it installed, but I have no idea what it does, if it does anything. I installed codecs the traditional way (pacman, etc). http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2 Yes, I have looked inside. It is a script in /usr/lib/opensuse-codecs-installer. Who/what runs it, when, how? Readme doesn't explain anything. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkr0oPAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UbUQCeM3flkN/sOfsU6j/Pf3xJMZtz 8SwAn0fHSb/iVJdUufClo6kLz1AsSMw5 =HJs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re:[opensuse-factory] Kernel clarification
by Piotrek Juzwiak 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

You can always change to default but why? The desktop kernel is tailored for desktop use so unless you run a server in which you need more throughput than lower latency then use the default in the other case use the desktop kernel. Regards >On Sunday I installed RC2 from DVD. Today I noticed I have kernel-desktop >instead of -default. Why? > > Can I just select the default kernel from YaSt and change it? What is the > differences? > > Thanks for any response. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] No sound using flash-player in x86_64
by Cristian Rodríguez 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hi: In case you have no sound with flash-player in x86_64, and have disabled pulseaudio, it is caused by a packaging bug, to fix it, install libasound2-32bit. THis has been fixed in sr #24008. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 10 point advantage of using openSUSE
by Atri 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hi! Now that 11.2 is (almost) upon us, I was thinking it would be a nice idea to have something like 10 points that openSUSE does differently and better than other linux distributions, listed on the wiki. It might serve as good promotion if the link to the wiki is ready by the time the release announcement is made and it is referred to in the announcement. Of course it might be 15 rather than 10, but the point is to have some of openSUSE 11.2's *really* special features listed here. Let me know if you think this is a good and feasible plan, and let us quickly agree upon the points we should highlight (how many, what, etc.) and we can put this up on the wiki as soon as possible. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Mitigating Multi-boot Issue [Re: [opensuse-factory] Feature #308284: Ship openSUSE 11.2]
by Greg Freemyer 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Intentional Top Post The below discusses the technical issues of resolving the multi-boot issues with other pre-installed linux distros. The conclusion seems to be it is not feasible to address without delaying 11.2 beyond reason. It does NOT mention how to mitigate the damage from the fact that we have a major issue that many testers will hit. The answer is very aggressive notification to testers and a well documented process of how to fix the issues that occur. Even with as short a remaining time as there is I believe there is time to address those to issues. I have not even read one message about this issue prior to this thread, but if it is as major as it sounds below, then I strongly urge the project leaders to evaluate the issue mitigation strategies as opposed to their issue resolution strategies. Greg On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Josef Reidinger <jreidinger(a)suse.cz> wrote: > > Clayton write: > > > I want to play the voting game one last time for 11.2. > > > For 11.1 many complained that the quality was too bad to > > > ship. For 11.2 I want to test something: collect your > > > votes. I created > > > > I voted no, but didn't get a change to comment.... > > Bug 548993 is one I'd consider a showstopper bug > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548993 > > Grub cannot find ANY other installed Linux. This is a really serious > > bug... one that, if it's allowed to be in the final release, will > > REALLY make openSUSE look bad. When you install 11.2 on a system with > > other Linux versions already installed, the 11.2 installer cannot find > > them or configure Grub correctly, and you end up with a Grub that > > knows only 11.2. You cannot booth the other installed OSes unless you > > run a repair/recover from one of the other installed Linux versions' > > install DVD. At this point.. we are going to ship 11.2 with this > > "feature"! > > > > For me... it doesen't bother me on my own hardware as I run only > > openSUSE, and will be using only 11.2. For anyoen else.. especially > > those who are considering using openSUSE, or those who need to use > > multiple installs.. we're going to look so so so bad when they run > > into this :-( > > > > As I said in the bug report, I'd call this one a release blocker bug > > if I was the release manager. > > > > C. > > > > Hi, > I agree with you that it is regression and annoying. Problem is that it is > found too late in release process and boot is quite sensitive and complex to > do it properly (you can look at it in yast svn how we propose sections- > http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/bootloader/src/modules/BootGRUB.ycp > function CreateSections). So if we wait until this bug is fixed and also > properly tested (just imagine possible combination of supported boot scenarios > on different raids and partitions) it takes really serious time which delay > 11.2 for more then month or two. Of course another problem described by Jozef > in bug is that other distributions change and we don't have enough time to > test it ( our priority is at first boot opensuse, then successful boot after > update and then cooperate with other operation systems ). Our resources is > limited, but I promise that if you send patch which fix problem I review it > and send comments (or add it immediately if it is good enough). > > Josef > > -- > Josef Reidinger > YaST team > maintainer of perl-Bootloader, YaST2-Repair, webyast modules language and time > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org > -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer Preservation and Forensic processing of Exchange Repositories White Paper - <http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/tng_whitepaper_fpe.html> The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Feature #308284: Ship openSUSE 11.2
by Stephan Kulow 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hi, I want to play the voting game one last time for 11.2. For 11.1 many complained that the quality was too bad to ship. For 11.2 I want to test something: collect your votes. I created https://features.opensuse.org/308284 so we can hear your oppinion. Please do not comment +1, but use the comments for real arguments. And note that I can't say if this works this way. We have to try - this is in no way binding, but if the voting comes out to be seriously negative, I promise we will not ship. If you want to test: the live and net isos are under http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/ (as usual) and the 11.2 repo is uptodate. DVDs I can't offer at this point. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Samsung Q11 vs. Install
by Joachim Reichelt 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, I got a really olf Samsung q10. 933 MHz, 384MB, DVD extern via ieee1394, USB1.1 only. I want to give it a try as a "netbook". Works well: I can boot from some USB sticks and got the live cd up. I can install from within running live cd. Problems: I cann ot use the optical medium, as there is no ieee1394 driver in the kernel. I cannot select "Install" during boot, as the system hangs shortly after selecting install (from USB) I cannot use my old wlan (Dlink) -> no really free driver (Firmware is not "open") :-; Known Problem for all. -- Joachim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Wiki entry on Wagon (ie. zypper dup gui)
by Greg Freemyer 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

All, I've been trying to edit the 11.2 Upgrade pages on the wiki. I came across <http://en.opensuse.org/Wagon> which had no content at all. I've added some, but I guessed at much of the overview because I don't know the background. Since Wagon (yast2 wagon) will likely be used heavily in OpenSUSE in the 11.2 rollout, I hope someone can review and correct what I did. fyi: my one and only attempt actually upgrade a 11.1 system to 11.2 RC2 ended with a segfault and now yast won't run. I'll have to troubleshoot my system a few days from now, but it would be good to get more testing of the Upgrade via wagon before the release. Is wagon a supported upgrade method with this release? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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