March 2007 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] 10.3 alpha?
by Edward Dunagin 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

I recall a message on the list asking to test this package. I lost it. Would someone please point me to the location of the latest factory. I would like to test it. Thanks and have a good evening....................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan 4646 Glenwood Drive Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 http://doas.montanalinux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ruf failure
by Dominique Leuenberger 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Hi, for some days now (I can't really say how long.. it's been a while but I never took the time to look a bit around), my rug is not able to install anything anymore. ZMF is running, rug se <packet> also shows available packages, but on rug in <package> it always ends with an Error. This morning I found that there seems to be a problem with ZMD. if I issue a 'rug ping', the OS listed is {noarch} which probably should not be like this. I have the latest factory upgrades as of last week (last updated using zypper, which imho gives me the impression to be slower than zmd.. but that's another story.. and other problems are related to that program) I for myself would like to continue using rug / zmd Is there something I can do to fix the OS ZMD reports? Dominique TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 72 offices in 56 countries and over 2,000 professionals (February 2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Meeting minutes dist meeting 2007-03-23
by Klaus Singvogel 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Andreas Jaeger wrote: [...] > * Status on print configuration > > - Discussion on opensuse-factory has been started. > - Cups 1.2 has policies - and there's also discussion about role > based YaST. We should avoid too many different solutions. > - Red Hat seems to use hal backend. > - Looking at Fedora solutions, they have some database for automatic > setup. > - not sure what can be done in time for 10.3 > I'm wondering how this _result_ came up. The discussion on opensuse-factory seemed to have stopped, whereas in the dist meeting were now some results presented, which seem not to honor some important facts, and seem not to be common positions. So I cannot agree with the later listed results, i.e. the RedHat/Fedora related ones. Why we should _not_ use Hal backend: - We cannot use hal backend, if we have need to support printing ability of multifunction printers (scanner/printer/fax). The lock of the usb device when supporting the scanning functionality is the main reason. - To have a full support of printers, we need to support vendor specific backends (!= hal backend), like those from HP or Epson. - The hal backend lacks still of implementation of new features of the cups-1.2.x system. The upstream maintainer (RedHat/Fedora) doesn't show any activity regarding this since release of cups-1.2x (9 months). ==> outdated. - It's not necessary to use the hal backend just to have the hal functionality of plugin/remove of printers use. Writing a hal policy file (.fdi file) with call of an Novell/SuSE specific tool should be enough/better. We should not use the automatic setup solution from Fedora: - The origin of the database seems not to be public. We cannot react if we want to handle all of our supported printers just before a product realase. We are always one release cycle behind RedHat/Fedora if we want to use their solution. No improvements at our side. - The automatic setup didn't show any further development at Fedora/RedHat since quiet some time (it's outdated!). This was the main reason, why even Ubuntu/Debian went away and uses now printerdrake. - We already have a in-house solution, named YaST!!! Why cant we use that? YaST already does automatic printer installation, when doing a new system installation. It should be no major effort, to enhance YaST in such a way that we get an command-line interface to do this. Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 E-Mail: Klaus.Singvogel(a)SuSE.de 90409 Nuernberg Phone: +49 (0) 911 740530 Germany GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Reiserfs v4 && openSuSE?
by Joop Boonen 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

All, I'm quite happy with the features of Reiserfs v4. http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html Is it possible to added to openSuSE 10.3? Even if it's only on experimental bases? Regards, Joop Boonen. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] FTP installation failure (kernel trap)
by Felix Miata 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

from ftp-1.gwdg.de booting with grub using local copies of factory installation kernel & initrd loud speaker beeps at Starting hardware detection drivers: ata_piix, piix, generic loading ata_piix, sym53c8xx ... graphical YaST starts lang and agreement selected "Loading kernel modules for hard disk controllers" (installation halted) kernel trap showing on tty4 Retry with brokenmodules=ata_piix didn't change anything P3 700/100 on Intel 440BX chipset (Tyan S1846) 512M RAM last partition on hda is 25 (target is hda19) fully functional with 10.1, 10.2, OS/2 & windoz -- "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." John 3:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] wodim and checkmedia
by Donn Washburn 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

As a suggestion, it would be handy to have a "Eject media" button added to "Check Media" in the Yast2 app. Or have checkmedia do it after completion. This system is openSuSE10.3 Alpha0plus and .wodim-1.1.2-4 -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Minutes from 2007-03-23 dist meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Here are the minutes from yesterday's dist meeting. If you have any questions, comments, ideas, please speak up! Thanks, Andreas * Enabling more network services to be NetworkManager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs This is in general desired but might need quite large rework for some services like autofs that do not handle IP changes properly. Proposal: Services should be aware that network goes up/down and handle no network (instead of timing out). Let's look what can be done for ntp - and later look at other services. Note the ntp service is also usefull for machines without network (serial DCF77 clock). Right now the dispatcher script sends a signal to ntp if the IP address changes but during boot ntp starts even if network is not running. Suggestion: ntp start script should figure out if NetworkManager is running and if it is only start if network is up - otherwise the dispatcher script will start it. AI: Work together on ntp. Dial-in support for NetworkManager to support ISDN, Modem, UMTS, 3G cards is beeing worked on and should be ready for openSUSE 10.3. * Checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. This was a question for security update of old distributions. The maintenance team grants exceptions on a case by case basis, e.g. if the new version just fixes the security problem. * AppArmor: Move the profiles from our package to their packages This would allow easier tracking of changes in packages. On the other hand a central place might give some extra review. Consensus: If the format is stable enough, we should distribute the profiles. Once we do it, we should train the packagers and institure some review process for the profiles to maintain a high quality. Beside manual page apparmor.d(5) a short documentation for packagers in plain english of the format is missed. AI: talk to Apparmor folks. * Faster booting? What can be done here? Booting consists of kernel startup, initrd and System V scripts. The bootchart scripts do measure the System V scripts but not the initial ramdisk. Idea: Snapshotting at gdm/kdm time: Write a snapshot and resume at the next boot back to this version. This is different from suspend to disk. Filesystem fragmentation under Linux is in general not a problem - but it is a problem in booting. Therefore measurements have to be done on freshly installed systems. AI: Generate some bootcharts to show current bottlenecks. * Shrink the basepackages (packages always installed for building) With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar). This means that e.g. vim and strace will be removed from the build environment. The autobuild team will add options to build to easily add debug tools to the tree. AI: Show list of packages to autobuild to adjust configs, announce changes to opensuse-packaging - and run comparisions of the complete system to check that all requirements are met. * Email notifications for checkins for not novell addresses Package.changes file coming from the build service might contain non-Novell email addresses. We decided to not send any autobuild emails to those adddresses. AI: implement whitelist of domains (currently @novell.com, @suse.de, @suse.cz) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] RFC: Tomorrows dist meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting: * Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs * checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet] * AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to * Faster booting? What can be done here? * Shrink the basepackages With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar). Any comments for these already? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Tomorrows dist meeting
by M9. 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: > "M9." <monkey9(a)iae.nl> writes: > >> Andreas Jaeger schreef: >>> "M9." <monkey9(a)iae.nl> writes: >>> >>> Network itself should go up indeed and if it does not, it's a bug - >> I will report it than ;-) Bug #256646 > Andreas - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.2" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAmU+X5/X5X6LpDgRApOxAKCbugM8vqbTGeR+BdUNboUt79IznACeJg/Z +QHDaOasrMmZ90X3HfaCmCc= =MgGe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dependency problem
by Anders Norrbring 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

I don't know where to start looking.. I'm trying to use PHP 5.2.1 from the repositaries, but I run into some problems, look at this; # rpm -qa | grep php5 php5-pear-net_url-1.0.14-11.1 php5-pear-http_request-1.4.0-4.1 php5-pear-db-1.7.6-42 php5-mhash-5.2.1-41.1 php5-curl-5.2.1-41.1 php5-ctype-5.2.1-41.1 php5-iconv-5.2.1-41.1 php5-dom-5.2.1-41.1 php5-soap-5.2.1-41.1 php5-devel-5.2.1-41.1 php5-xsl-5.2.1-41.1 php5-pear-auth_sasl-1.0.2-29 php5-5.2.1-41.1 php5-bz2-5.2.1-41.1 php5-json-5.2.1-41.1 ... Looks pretty good, right? Then I'm trying to install the pecl memcache module, also from repositary; Problems Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-mhash-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-curl-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-ctype-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-iconv-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-dom-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-soap-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-devel-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-xsl-5.2.1-41.1.i586 Can't satisfy requirement php5 == 5.2.1 for php5-pdo-5.2.1-41.1.i586 .... Where should I start looking? Seems like php5 doesn't (somehow) report itself to be 5.2.1, although it shows 5.2.1 everywhere in yast. -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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