February 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

SUSE Linux Beta5 is delayed
by Andreas Jaeger 24 Feb '06

24 Feb '06

FYI: Beta5 is planned to be released tomorrow, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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YaST trying to install ppc.rpm on x86
by Silviu Marin-Caea 24 Feb '06

24 Feb '06

I opened up YaST Software Management to install pwgen. It complained that it failed to install pwgen...ppc.rpm I have a honest x86_32. What made YaST think that it should have anything to do with ppc? I hesitate to file a bug because the Software Management is still quite broken. I'll try specifically the same thing in beta5.

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Ping Kurt Garloff: non-GPL Kernel Modules, some good news?
by David Wright 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

I raised this point at the IRC Meeting last night and was asked if I could take it to the open-factory list and ask Kurt Garloff if he has any information on this subject. What is required: We need some "positive spin" on the situation. Is it possible to have an update on this change, giving some information on which commercial partners are supporting this change and actively working to produce userspace binaries or OSS drivers? Obviously if some of the work is done under NDA's information will be limited, but information on the number of suppliers actively working on solutions and some key names if possible (like nVidia, ATi, Intel etc.) would be helpful and quell a lot of the speculation that is currently going on in the lists. What is *NOT* required: More flaming, bad mouthing or generally spreading FUD! We already have had 2-3 discussions on the negative side of the change. Please do not add this thread to the list, if you have something generally negative to say about the change, please use the existing threads. Background: The removal of the binary Kernel modules has, so far, been poorly communicated to end-users. There is little or no information forthcoming on how this will directly affect end users and what alternatives are being put in place to mitigate the change. On the negative side, we have had people like the AVM developers in the press and coming onto the list, raising more doubt and uncertainty by stating this is forcing them to abandon development/support for Linux drivers - this although there are several alternatives available, including open-sourcing parts of the driver and/or moving to userspace for the binary only drivers/parts that can't be open sourced. The problem is, users are used to installing SUSE Linux and ending up with a working system with little or no work required (E.g. checking a button during the initial YOU update to enable dual-head and 3D support on their nVidia cards, and NIC's and modems working from the get-go so that they can download updates, patches and any additional drivers) and they want re-assurances that they will be able to continue to upgrade to newer versions of SUSE Linux and their PC's will still work... Dave -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Xgl - OpenSUSE 10.1 beta4 - bug report
by ALFANO GIULIO 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

>Here those problems are gone with the newest XGL version (to be synced out?). Which version? I have the same problem whith my laptop(radeon 9700 obility) all rpm downoaded yesterday.

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Minimal install of OSS
by Igor Jagec 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Is it possible to make some minimal install of openSUSE? I meant, minimal with or without X. I didn't notice any option which would provide something like that. Thanks. Cheers! -- Igor Jagec

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Software Remover
by Marcel Hilzinger 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

The Software Remover (System -> Configuration -> Remove Software) shows me the installed packages, but after selecting a package for removal and klicking on "Remove", the package ist still there. Software Remover said: The transaction was succesfull. Bugzilla or wait for next beta? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99

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BUG 152085 - Installation Sources 10.1 Beta 4
by David Wright 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

With Beta 4, I have the problem that the Installation Sources section of YAST doesn't remember the sources I enter. After initial install, the list of sources is empty (not even the install CD is listed). If I enter the CD, Factory and other sources, clicking on the Finish button "erases" them, and looking at sources again shows that there are none. Going into Software Management, I can then, obviously, only delete installed packages, as SM cannot find any additional packages. This is frustrating as I can't update to factory or otherwise search for new packages without manually downloading and installing the individual packages. Is there a temporary workaround, i.e. can I directly edit a configuration file to add the sources so that I can use the software manager to install packages? (and if so, which file?) Has this been addressed in Factory/Beta 5 and would I be better to wait until I download the delta ISO's for B5? Dave -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck

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Stupid bug, but with great potential: kmix
by Silviu Marin-Caea 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

I'd like to point out a lame bug that has good chances of being overseen and making it alive in the final release. This would cause a great deal of traffic on suse-linux-e, with the same question asked all over again by frustrated users. kmix is not working in first login after installation. It has a red "disabled" sign. Users will think their soundcard was not detected and attempt reinstallation and all sorts of fixing. Second login, or after restart, kmix is working but is muted (!). Unmutting it still won't be enough to produce sound because the sliders for headphones and PCM are at 0. I can only imagine the kilometers of thread about not being able to play shit, no sound, no mp3, SUSE sucks etc. So, please, please, nice and pretty please fix this :-) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144525 Ugh, could anyone confirm the bug? Or is it only for my particular hardware (i915)? It has been manifesting since beta1, I think.

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boot-iso link to the iso directory
by houghi 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

People have some problem finding the boot.iso (and the boot.ppc.iso) as they are looking in the iso directory. Would it be possible to siftlink these two files? As it does not add any space (well, not really) to the mirrors. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

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factory changes
by Peter Czanik 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

Hello, http://en.opensuse.org/Factory-News does not show anything new, but I see, that almost the full factory tree is refreshed. Is it only due to the new gcc, which I found in the ChangeLog? Is it worth to download it, or there were not yet significant improvements to the package manager (what I could not figure out from the ChangeLog)? Bye, CzP

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