November 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Beta 1 and kde shutdown
by Arto Viitanen 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

I am not sure if this a bug or not. However, I installed 10.2 Beta 1 or X86 (2xXeon) and now when I select Leave->Shutdown Computer, instead the X server starts again (I have NVidia's driver, so I get the logo screen) and I am returned to the login screen. If I select the shutdown there, the machine shuts down. So does not my user account has the rights to shutdown, or does not KDE's shutdown work? And if I do not have the rights, why the Leave->Shutdown Computer does not tell it to me? -- Arto Viitanen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: factory-extra tree
by Frederic 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Hello, Where's located the factory-extra tree? Frédéric --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Insatiable zmd
by Randall R Schulz 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Hi, I've noticed that for the past three hours a process running the command "zmd /usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe --sleep-resume" has been running at a CPU consumption rate of about 25%. It seems to be associated with a pulse of disk read activity about every 5 seconds (though I'm just inferring that from the regular pattern of disk reads shown by GKrellM combined with the continuing execution of the zmd process). I glanced at the man page, whose synopsis states "zmd - The backend daemon for the Novell ZENworks Linux Management Agent." Is it normal for this process to run on and on like this? Randall Schulz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] obviously not, so I`ll try again
by Cristian Rodriguez R. 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Detlef Steuer wrote: > so I´ll try again: > > Hi, > > what do others think of yesterday´s deal? Bussiness as usual.. > How do you feel? I feel this can be a good thing , but probably unlikely to affect us, nor the buildservice , probably we will not notice any difference. A (very unusual) business agreement between two big corporations.. nothing new.. examples: 1. Oracle + redhat 2. Sun with MS 3. etc. Nothing to worry to much I think.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] speed impression on firefox 2
by Dominique Leuenberger 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Bernhard >>> Reply on 03-11-2006 9:11:02 <<<> Hello, > > * Dominique Leuenberger <Dominique.Leuenberger(a)TMF-Group.com> > [2006-11-02 08:23]: > > no, unfortunately I already had IPV6 disabled in Yast and I even > > disabled that one witing about:config (the option > > network.dns.disableIPv6 = true) > > > > But still, my FF2 seems to sleep in front of me whenever I request a > > webage. Seems it's time for me to start a WireShark on this. Let's > hope > > I find something like this. > > What's your proxy setting? Disabled or Automatically? Try to disable > it. > That was the one I did not think of (I think up to now it was always 'disable' by default. Strangely, I am NOT able to change it using the GUI (by going to edit preferences connection, I just get an error. I changed it in about:config (network.proxy.type = 0. There must also be the problem: It was set to 5 (accepted as default), which does not even represent a valid value. proxy.type should take a value from 0 to 4 (the error in GUI also shows something about a value of 5). Anyhow, I changed it to 0 and FF is lightning fast now. (hmm. that would better fit on thunderbird :-) ) Regards and thanks for your tips! Dominique

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Re: [opensuse-factory] speed impression on firefox 2
by Dominique Leuenberger 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 02-11-2006 9:19:52 <<<> IP6 is enabled by default and most DNS-servers cannot handle > it....generating > long delays.. Change in yast > network card > advanced >> IP6. I just > did > that and now it is fast again :D > > Does that help? Bart, no, unfortunately I already had IPV6 disabled in Yast and I even disabled that one witing about:config (the option network.dns.disableIPv6 = true) But still, my FF2 seems to sleep in front of me whenever I request a webage. Seems it's time for me to start a WireShark on this. Let's hope I find something like this. I'll post my results as soon as I find more. Regards, Dominique > > Bart > > Op dinsdag 31 oktober 2006 11:49, schreef Dominique Leuenberger: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I have upgraded to Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2 last week. > > > > Since then, I feel Firefox (which also got upgraded to 2.0 now) much > > slower than 1.5 was before. > > For example, when entering an URL then hitting <enter>, for a while > > nothing happens (not even the status bar changes from stopped or > > something). > > > > In general, I would say the surfing experiance got much worse. > > > > I also have FF on my win installation in the office and wouldn't say > it > > degraded somehow. (or not as much experianced). > > > > Does anybody else have this experiance with FF2? > > > > Dominique > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org > >

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[opensuse-factory] KSynaptics
by Michael Riess 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

hi, just upgraded to 10.2 Beta1 on my notebook and it seems to work OK till now because it is a notebook i was always fighting with the touchpad till i read about KSynaptics are there any plans to integrate KSynaptics http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net into 10.2 or is there a equivalent Tool for configuring the Touchpad? ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Package management architecture
by Martin Schlander 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Presently discussion is on-going in bugzilla about the architecture of package management, mostly wrt. 10.2. I think that we should clarify longer term goals. Which imho must be to not have zmd installed by default on openSUSE, as it causes problems and unnecessary complexity without adding functionality that the openSUSE users need. I'm curious if official people agree with this? With zypper (cli) and opensuse-updater (updater applet) it is within grasp to not have zmd+friends on KDE installations. It's more problematic for GNOME as removing zmd would mean no updater applet would be available for them. But this should be fixable for 10.3. Nat Budin did this image to illustrate package management on 10.1: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Package-management-in-code10.png I've done a quick mock-up of how it could look in the future for comparison - maybe already in 10.2 for KDE users: http://suse.linuxin.dk/pm102.png Whether or not this architecture is feasible for 10.2, depends on the stability of zypper and opensuse-updater. Therefore I recommend to test it a lot. To be able to test it thouroughly we need updates though. One of the lessons learned from the 10.1 debacle was that a lot of the problems didn't become apparent until we had multiple repositories and update repos to test with. This repo exists: http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/suse/suse/update/10.1.42/ But there are no packages there. Would it be possible to provide some sort of dummy updates? Also some repos exist for Factory on the buildservice with newer packages than the ones in factory. Which is useful for testing the package management in more of a real life scenario. Note that at the present zypper is missing from factory, but I assume that'll be remedied soon. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216585 At the very least 10.2 users should be able to remove zmd+friends and still have cli (zypper) and an updater applet (KDE users only), which in it self is one of many improvements in 10.2 over 10.1. Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Test restricted formats (mp3,DVD propietarie etc)
by Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Exists a repositorie to use for test this formats in opensuse beta Regards --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Repository consistency checklist
by Andreas Hanke 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

This is a short specification of requirements for a consistent repository. (1) All requirements of binary packages must be provided by a binary package. (2) All build-requirements of source packages must be provided by a binary package. (3) The SOURCERPM tag of every binary package must exactly match an existing source package. (4) All packages which are provided for more than one architecture should be provided with the same version and release numbers on all architectures. (5) No package may obsolete another package that still exists in the distribution. Only packages which are no longer part of the distribution may be obsoleted. (6) No file in the distribution may be provided by more than one package unless all its providers are marked as conflicting. (7) No package may replace something that existed as a directory in at least the direct predecessor of the currently prepared distribution with a file or a symlink or vice versa unless the rpm breakage caused by this is worked around with %pre scriptlets or similar. (8) Packages that provide the same thing can indicate bugs, and fool the package manager into installing the wrong package. There are cases where providing the same thing in multiple packages makes sense (example: alternative backends for multimedia players), but the tree should be investigated for cases where this does not make any sense and can be dangerous (example: private copies of libraries which also exist as a public library). (1), (2), (3) and (4) can probably only be verified shortly before the release. Or, checking this now would not make much sense as long as the tree is still in flux. (5), (6), (7) and (8), however, are things that can be tested at any time. The Beta period which will start very soon is very well suited to squeeze all such issues out. Ideally, as much of this as possible would be automated, and done in a similar way as a typical testsuite for software packages. I think that (5) and (6) can be completely automated, while (7) and (8) can be identified automatically, but would still need to be looked at manually for evaluation. Opinions? Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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