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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
by Claes Bäckström 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

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[opensuse-factory] Ext4 in Opensuse 10.2
by Juan Erbes 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

They are possible to add as experimental the new ext4 FS to the final release of OSS 10.2? The support for ext4 is added to the kernel 2.6.19-rc1-mm1, but it could'nt mature enpugh. I mean that ext3 is a obsolete FS. Regars --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] y2controlcenter-gnome
by Claes Bäckström 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

Hi Been using y2controlcenter-gnome from the yast2-control-center-gnome rpm and I really love it. Have one small question only. Why isn't the yast modules sorted the same way as in yast2 control-center? And is "Graphics Setup" really a "Common Task". I configure my resolution and graphic cards once after that I don't touch it. For me this is no "Common Task" Warm Regards, Claes Backstrom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] About ext3 as default and periodic fs checks
by Silviu Marin-Caea 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

The periodic ext3 fs checks at boot are driving me nuts. I know they can be disabled. Couldn't they be performed at shutdown instead of boot? Whenever someone starts the computer it means 100% they need it right then. Having ext3 perform fs checking on a 300 GB full drive is nothing that any user will tolerate easily. OTOH whenever someone shuts down the computer, there's a 95% chance that it doesn't need it right then anymore (it's not a reboot). However, there is a small problem with my suggestion. There is a chance that the fs check at shutdown finds an error that needs user intervention. In that case I think there must be a way to mark the volume dirty and go forward with the shutdown. Then at boot do again a fs check and let the user decide. These would be the steps, from boot: 0. boot 1. is fs dirty? then fsck and prompt user how to fix errors 2. run OS 3. at shutdown: should the fs be checked (verify mount count or period) if yes then fsck with "automatic fix" option. Did the fsck find errors that cannot be fixed automatically? If yes mark fs dirty. Shutdown. This way, the user would never have to wait at boot, and the filesystem would still be checked periodically. What do you think? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Ext4 in Opensuse 10.2
by Marc Collin 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> In general: No. > > Depending on the patch it might just be, a reference (GIT commit id) then > I could at least check. > > If you consider it necessary and it is not in, open a bugreport against > the Kernel. > > Ciao, Marcus in 2.6.19-rc2-mm1 +gregkh-usb-uhci-workaround-for-asus-motherboard.patch 2.6.19-rc2-mm2 gregkh-usb-uhci-workaround-for-asus-motherboard.patch with asus a8n-vm there are some problem with usb, don't power management.... anyway surely somebody will build a rpm 2.6.20 kernel when it go out... (surely decemeber or january) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
by Claes Bäckström 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Hi I would like that when I choose "install software" in gnome-main-menu it will start yast2 sw_single instead of zen-installer. Should I file a enhancement bug in bugzilla? Warm Regards, Claes Backstrom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Ext4 in Opensuse 10.2
by Marc Collin 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> > Since we stay with 2.6.18 with a minimum set of patches: No. > > Ciao, Marcus does some asus patch added to kernel 2.6.19 will be added for the kernel of suse 10.2? thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ZMD consumes 70-85% cpu during more than 150 minutes...
by Dominique Leuenberger 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 06-11-2006 14:51:33 <<<> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > As subject, > > 2958 root 34 19 215m 12m 3428 R 80.2 2.6 55:03.02 zmd > 2958 root 34 19 215m 15m 3860 R 79.6 3.2 118:37.63 zmd > 2958 root 34 19 215m 15m 3856 R 76.7 3.2 162:21.22 zmd > > Hey, do we have to expect such a mail every few minutes now on the list? Maybe the best would be to open a BugZilla tracker or find out what happened? Will help you and everybody much more than having this message every few minutes. Greetings, Dominique

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Is there a reason inst-source-extra can not be added to yast?
by Robby (M9.) Verberne 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Thiel schreef: > Robby, > > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 01:53:52PM +0100, Robby (M9.) Verberne wrote: > >> http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h204/Monkey999999999999999/yst-inst-src-x… >> >> Error msg. > > I'm not going to be your personal support person. Please stick to accepted > processes -> Bugzilla! > > (To help you with this very issue: The inst source you are trying to access, > is valid and should be functional -- I'v just double checked it. You are > most likely hitting a bug here.) Ok thnx, in smart the channel is not seperately showing, only when edit the channels, it is shown. > > Report a bug and attach logfiles as per http://en.openSUSE.org/Bugs/YaST > > And another remark (please don't take these personal!): Posting to a > mailinglist very frequently by just posting "ps ax" output and refering to > your subject isn't going to help you and us a lot. I understand, but when I notice an app that is just doing nothing, but consuming valuable resources, and that for this long time, i think should not go unnoticed. > > > Best, > Christoph > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFTzw3X5/X5X6LpDgRArsLAJ9xqNakTMoK4zBu6d1PeNTnhT07JwCg1it6 m/hMeZK3W1cpbOITSsH86ZM= =7yqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ZMD consumes 70-85% cpu during more than 150 minutes...
by Dominique Leuenberger 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 06-11-2006 15:14:12 <<<> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dominique Leuenberger schreef: > > > > > >>>> Reply on 06-11-2006 14:51:33 <<<> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED > > MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> As subject, > >> > >> 2958 root 34 19 215m 12m 3428 R 80.2 2.6 55:03.02 zmd > >> 2958 root 34 19 215m 15m 3860 R 79.6 3.2 118:37.63 zmd > >> 2958 root 34 19 215m 15m 3856 R 76.7 3.2 162:21.22 zmd > >> > >> > > > > Hey, > > > > do we have to expect such a mail every few minutes now on the list? > > Maybe the best would be to open a BugZilla tracker or find out what > > happened? > > > > Will help you and everybody much more than having this message every > > few minutes. > > > > Greetings, > > Dominique > > Is that the reason why you sent the same message twice? > Or are you in some way compelled with zmd, so you do not want to see > the > app is invalid? > > What I am trying to prove with this, is that the app is useless at this > time, (as it was in 101), and that we all need something like smart, > and > smart update checker, instead of this resources consuming monster, that > is not productive at all.... > I think one problem we all experiance here (and I'm not even sure Smart would handle this different) is the fact, the a zmd refresh has to get the current catalog infos from a server (I think it's downloading primary.xml.gz and filelists.xml.gz and maybe even other.xml.gz, can a ZMD expert comment on this?) Especially in the Factory tree which is very unstable at the moment, these catalog files are changing regularly (several times a week) and thus have to be downloaded over and over again. Once the tree is considered stable, these catalogs get downloaded a single time and only the update tree is modified. AFAIK, zmd keeps the timestamps of the last update of these catalogs, and if not changed, decides not to download them. A short look on the files show, that it is downloading around 60MB at the moment. This might take a while. Here, probably the FTP/HTTP[S] Get method is not as cpu friendly as it could be, or maybe it's something completely different. Maybe some zmd guy could comment on this? Or maybe I should start digging around in the sources :-) Greetings, Dominique

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