October 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Mirror servers for factory? Syncing problems?
by Dominique Leuenberger 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

Forwarded to the list. Sorry Eberhard! >>> Dominique Leuenberger 18-10-2006 16:29 >>> >>> Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke(a)gwdg.de> 18-10-2006 16:23 >>> Hi, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > for some days now I'm waiting for the libzypp 2.4.0 which should make > my rug render usable again. > Unfortunately, all the servers I check don't have this thing synched. > > As a reference: > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=212100 > > The file should be around for some days already. > > Is there a mirror with the corresponding files? (I mostly use gwdg.de > up to now) > > I have the same with another bug report which I will have to reply, but > if synching is not working, I might have problems finding the required > RPMs Factory still has libzypp-2.3.0-2. *--- So where do the Novell people request us to get this thing from? According bugzilla, it should be available. So let's wait a bit more and I stay without a running rug Cheers!

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[opensuse-factory] YOU vs Zen Updater
by Terje J. Hanssen 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Maybe a little OT, but I think neccessary and useful to know for 10.2 as well. I just Configured Online Update with YaST and thereafter ran a larger YaST Online Update for 10.1. For some time the Zen Software Updater has showed 11 software updates (incl. Mozilla Firefox and Evolution). The difference now was that it was possible to install them with Zen after this latest libzypp update. Now I wonder what is the real use difference between YOU and Zen Updater? (If I remember right there was something called SuSE Watcher equivalent to Zen now). Is Zen meant to replace YOU? Or which types of packages become updated/patched with Zen Updater vs YOU and Zen Remove Program vs Yast Add/Remove Programs? cat /etc/SuSE-release SUSE LINUX 10.1 (i586) VERSION = 10.1 How to find out if I've got upgraded to the 10.1 Mastered or not? Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zen bug?
by jdd 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

until the last zen update, my 10.1 installation send this message at starting time: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in <0x003d6> Novell.Zenworks.Gui.ZenTrayIcon:CheckUpdatesLoop () in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void () however I still have the zen icon in the tray. is this something worth a bug report? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: YAST new icons
by opensuse4u . 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Hello, Is it possible to use YAST KDE-like icons? The other day I upgraded to openSUSE 10.2 (i586) Alpha5plus and now I see GNOME-like (maybe from the Tango project?) icons on YAST. Greetings

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?
by Dominique Leuenberger 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

>>> Reply on 17-10-2006 10:58:15 <<<> Dominique Leuenberger schrieb: > That's exactly what rug does... Ok, that's good like this > > The issue is really specific to zen-updater. I could never make rug > crash, not even by copying MP3 audio files on top of > /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db. It just says "Corrupted database", and that's what > an application should do in such a situation. > > By the way, you don't need to do > > rm -f /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db > > any more in Factory because zmd is already robustified, which is very > cool. Restarting zmd is sufficient, it recognizes the corrupted > database > as such on startup and rebuilds it automatically. Also very nice to read. So it's going in the right direction. > > So, zmd and rug are fine, just zen-updater is not. Unfortunately, > zen-updater is exactly what people see most of the time and what they > identify as "ZEN". Selling Zenworks as a good thing is really difficult > this way... > Indeed, at least the Userinterface should be nifty, as it's also used in corp environment by non-geeks. They probably can't deal to much with a stacktrace. Are there any chances that the zen-updater get's a face-lifting in this way? (even though it IS working; a kinda better error message would probably be welcome by everybody). About the hardened zen: do you know something about the libzypp 2.4.0 update for factury that should be synced? I'm still waiting for it! As my box at the moment can not use rug at all to remove or to install or to update packages (SIGSEGVing). But on no mirror I know I can find that new version addressed in bugzilla Dominique

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zen bug?
by Dominique Leuenberger 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

>>> Reply on 17-10-2006 10:37:42 <<<> jdd schrieb: > > ?? I did not do anything to have this and it didn't show before > > Maybe you did not do anything, but the resolve-dependencies zypp helper > did something: It segfaulted. > > This caused zmd.db to be left in an unusable state. Zen-Updater likes > to > show exactly this stack trace whenever that happens. It's the most > well-known one. Use Google: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=CheckUpdatesLoop > > While the resolve-dependencies segfault has been fixed in the meantime, > the stack trace from Zen-Updater will _never_ be fixed. It's already in > Bugzilla with 6 duplicates. Resolution: WORKSFORME > > Just forget it... Whenever this happens, you have to do: > > killall zen-updater > /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop > rm -f /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db > /etc/init.d/novell-zmd start > zen-updater & Calling a program, that gives a stack trace on an invalid Database, 'Works For Me' is a bit brave behaviour. In no way, a program is allowed to crash out if a corrupt database is found. At LEAST an exact explanation to the user how to solve it (maybe what you just gave on top) HAS to be given or, if the actions are that obvious always the same, they have to be performed if the system does not get in danger by it. But just leaving it as 'Works for me' is not the right thing imho. Dominique

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[opensuse-factory] Wiki: Please help with - Installation using images
by Bart Otten 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Goodday, there is an wiki-page for installing without using any cd/dvd at all. However it requires some technical skills and the tutorial is rather long. For openSUSE-testing I used an DVD-image this time and it worked great. However, I had to find out myself how to get it done. For that matter I made an wiki-page and because I am noob I really want to ask you what should be editted. http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_using_images Remember: It haves to be Average Joe-mode. Think about anybody you know that does hardly know Linux (only a bit) and please give me some tips. Bart Otten --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Hardware Support: Marvell 88E8056
by Randall R Schulz 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Hi, Can anyone help me activate the Marvel 88E8056 gigabit Ethernet controller on my system? It does not seem to be recognized: Here are two pertinent entries of "lspci" output: % lspci -vv ... 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 4364 (rev 12) Subsystem: SysKonnect Unknown device 4340 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size 08 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10 Region 0: Memory at fe0fc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Region 2: I/O ports at 9800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at fe0c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 3 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME- Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [5c] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Address: 0000000000000000 Data: 0000 Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag- Device: Latency L0s unlimited, L1 unlimited Device: AtnBtn- AtnInd- PwrInd- Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Port 0 Link: Latency L0s <256ns, L1 unlimited Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 128 bytes CommClk+ ExtSynch- Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1 ... 05:04.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 14) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Asus) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 (5750ns min, 7750ns max), Cache Line Size 08 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 225 Region 0: Memory at feab4000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Region 1: I/O ports at b400 [size=256] Expansion ROM at 88400000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME- Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data ... The first Ethernet device shown is the 88E8056. The second device, the 88E8001 works, though the system configures the wrong module (a blacklisted one at that!) to drive it. What can I do to activate this device? Thanks. Randall Schulz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Compositing manager in Metacity
by James Ogley 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Ref: http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2006/10/13 A while ago[1] there was some discussion here around the compositing manager in Metacity. I've built metacity packages and libcm which is required for the CM in my BS repo[2]. I don't have a Factory install at the moment so I'd appreciate if some intrepid tester could, well, test them for me. If they work, I'd like to propose the changes for Factory/10.2. [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00204.html [2] http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/Riggwelter/ -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Mozilla Firefox 2.0
by Dominique Leuenberger 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Hi everybody, On the openSUSE Wiki, it's written that with openSUSE 10.2, Mozilla Firefox 2.0 should be delivered (Mozilla is due to be released in October). But up to now, even in the current factory tree, there are no traces of Firefox 2.0. Only 1.5.0.7 is available. Is this to be changed or will we deliver and 'old' Firefox with openSUSE 10.2? For thunderbird, which is due later, the packages of 1.99 are already in for a while. Regards, Dominique

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