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[opensuse-factory] non-oss software on our media?
by Michael Loeffler 03 Oct '08

03 Oct '08

Hi, we discussed already once [1] the situation with proprietary software on our distribution. We agreed on the list and in an IRC project meeting that it's not nice but is very convenient for many users and should stay therefor on media. I'm opening the discussion again as with that we never will achieve a user friendly licence as already copying of our software on DVD is not allowed and even some mirrors have an issue with this licence. We receive on a regular base inquiries in this regards and bad press [2]. Here is our proposal for new discussion. *Ship any media of openSUSE with open source software and proprietary software which allows redistribution (eg. firmware), for details [3]. *Add during installation automatically an online repo with the non-OSS stuff and install per default flashplayer (5MB) and the fluendo plug-in (210K) for mp3. This would allow us to offer a user friendly end user licence agreement (EULA) and would remove the cause of bad press and angry users reading the EULA really carefully. Some background info: - survey of usage of proprietary[4] software showed that only flashplayer and acroread really are used by a majority of users (Java is not an issue anymore as we ship with 11.1 openJDK) - with the distribution of 90%+ of broadband access amongst our users flashplayer via online repo shouldn't be a problem. And without internet access flashplayer won't be an issue for anybody. - For acroread we're sure that the open source alternatives (kpdf, evince, okular) are at same level with acroread. The only drawback we're aware of is the missing functionality PDF Forms offers today. We're asking for your buy-in for having a more friendly EULA, to make the distribution of openSUSE easier and get the software in more hands. BTW: we'll replace the proprietary agfa-fonts with the open source alternative Liberation fonts with openSUSE 11.1. Best Michael [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-07/msg00050.html [2] http://lwn.net/Articles/283555/ [3] http://en.opensuse.org/Non_oss_software [4] http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/c/ce/SurveySummary_proprietary_softwa… -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Somethings wrong with factory file versions
by Dave Plater 03 Oct '08

03 Oct '08

Hi, I'm sure this is wrong kde3-i18n-en_GB-3.5.9-1.5 is in factory, I thought 11.1 was version 3.5.10 and in fact I have version 3.5.10-2.12 installed at the moment. This can cause a problem with zypper dup. The file date is 12 April 2008. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] live cd images
by Peter Czanik 03 Oct '08

03 Oct '08

Hello, Wow! Is this really the best way to distribute live CD images? I just found this package while updating the local factory mirror: # ls -l kiwi-image-livecd-gnome-11.1-26.1.i586.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 czanik 192 834053147 Oct 2 19:40 kiwi-image-livecd-gnome-11.1-26.1.i586.rpm # rpm -qlp kiwi-image-livecd-gnome-11.1-26.1.i586.rpm /usr/share/kiwi /usr/share/kiwi/output /usr/share/kiwi/output/kiwi-image-livecd-gnome-openSUSE-11.1.i686-2.7.0.iso That is an iso file packaged into a 834MB rpm file :-) Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] can't nfs mount
by Felix Miata 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

I know I just had a solution to this lately but can find no evidence of either the question or any response, and Google doesn't seem to find anything on point. :-( Here's the response from trying to mount fstab entries that have always worked before today's updates: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd. Running rpc.statd from shell prompt returns nothing and has no effect on mount attempts. Bash can't find statd. Neither rpc.statd nor statd exist in /etc/init.d. /usr/sbin/rpc.statd is 755 47424 29 Sept. How do I make nfs mounts work again? -- "Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Currently usable?
by Jason Boissiere 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

Is the current factory comparatively stable, or in flux before the official beta 2 release? Is upgrading from 11.0 likely to leave a booting system, or a pile of smoking wreckage? x86 on fairly stock Dell hardware. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Boissiere Senior Quality Assurance Engineer Ingres Europe Limited jason.boissiere(a)ingres.com PHONE +44 01753 559529 www.ingres.com This transmission is confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient named above. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete the original transmission and all copies from your system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Where can I file a bug report against bugzilla?
by Dominique Leuenberger 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 12:11 +0200, Dave Plater wrote: > >>> Ciao, Marcus > >> I don't see the reporter in the cc list a lot of times and I add myself to the cc list after opening the bug report due > >> to not receiving mail in the distant past. I will check this again the next time I open a bug. > > Dave, If you're the one adding a comment to a ticket, then you're typically excluded from the mail. As you probably are well informed about the fact of a new entry in the ticket (after all you just entered it). Is it this behaviour you wanted to address? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Where can I file a bug report against bugzilla?
by Dave Plater 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

Hi, I have noticed that often the reporter of a bug does not add himself to the cc list and as a result does not know what is going on with the bug. Surely bugzilla should automatically add the reporter to the cc list. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Has the kernel split into three packages?
by Dave Plater 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

Hi, I'm just going through the beta 2 update packages in the new factory and I see yast wants to install three kernel packages :- kernel-pae - Kernel with PAE Support, kernel-pae-base - Kernel with PAE Support - base modules and kernel-pae-extra - Kernel with PAE Support - extra modules. Where can I find information on what has happened to the kernel in opensuse? Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] grub bug #428127 - will it be fixed?
by Di Pe 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

Hi, I'm just wondering if this one will be fixed in beta2 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428127 It's a pity that many people could not really test beta1 x64 because of this. Thanks dipe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory]
by russbucket 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

I just installed a test system with opensuse 11.0 (2.6.25.16-0.1-pae) with KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.1(KDE4.1.+20080828)) release 52.2 from the factory repository. I found two items which may be bugs or just not completed yet. 1. on KMENU under system-->terminal there is no longer an option for a super user terminal (KDE 3.5.9-44) has this option. Do I need to report it as bug, is it incomplete or was it removed? 2. Under personal settings I can no longer find where to set up the device icons. It is under Personal_Settings-->desktop-->behavior on 3.5.9. Do I need to report it as bug, is it incomplete or was it removed? Thanks for any help. If this is not the right place to ask, let me know. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 openSUSE 11.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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