April 2024 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Disabling /dev/fb0 on TW
by Thomas Zimmermann 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

tl;dr: Disable fbdev userspace interfaces on TW Hi, the upcoming Linux kernel v6.6 will contain the option to disable fbdev userspace interfaces in the kernel configuration. [1] I intent to enable this and thereby switch off /dev/fb0 et al. The tracker bug is boo#1212947. [2] * Why? The old fbdev subsystem is an endless source of bugs. For example, we recently had an out-of-bounds access in the fbdev emulation, where userspace could write beyond the end of the framebuffer memory. [3] Fbdev is under-maintained. I've been doing improvements in recent kernel releases, but only where it benefits the DRM subsystem. Disabling fbdev userspace interfaces will also help weeding out any programs that still contain hard dependencies on them. * What changes? Enabling the new kernel option disables all fbdev userspace interfaces. These are * the device files, such as /dev/fb0 * the sys files under /sys/class/graphics/fb[0-9]+ * /proc/fb * What are the effects on userspace programs? Userspace applications run on the desktop via Wayland or X. There will be no change to them. Xorg and Wayland compositors run on DRM interfaces. A few programs run on SDL, which has no dependency on fbdev either. Any fbdev support in these mid-layer components should be disabled as well. There's one known affected program: TW's text-mode installer can use the tool fbiterm to display CJK symbols during installation. This comes from a time when some low-end systems where not able to boot graphics installation. fbiterm has been unmaintained for >15 years and is ready for retirement. But there's no good drop-in replacement. I propose to simply remove fbiterm and let the graphics installer handle CJK. * What about the framebuffer console? The kernel-provided framebuffer console does not change. The kernel will still show the regular console. Userspace interfaces in /sys/class/graphics/fbcon are still available. For questions and discussion, please comment here or in boo#1212947. Best regards Thomas [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.6-rc1/source/drivers/video/fbdev/core/K… [2] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212947 [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?… -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman HRB 36809 (AG Nuernberg)

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Plan to delete vagrant & Virtualization:vagrant by the end of November
by Dan Čermák 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Dear all, due to Hashicorp changing the license of vagrant to the BUSL, we can no longer update vagrant in openSUSE. I don't have the cycles to maintain vagrant myself indefinitely and plan to send a delete request at the end of November to Factory. Once that goes in, I also plan to remove the Virtualization:vagrant project to reduce the number of rubygems we have in openSUSE. If you don't like this plan and decide to scream at me, please scream an actionable plan that involves you :-) Cheers, Dan -- Dan Čermák <dcermak(a)suse.com> Software Engineer Development tools SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstr. 146 90461 Nürnberg Germany www.suse.com Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)

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New Tumbleweed snapshot 20240110 released!
by Dominique Leuenberger 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

Please note that this mail was generated by a script. The described changes are computed based on the x86_64 DVD. The full online repo contains too many changes to be listed here. Please check the known defects of this snapshot before upgrading: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/overview?distri=opensuse&groupid=1&versio… Please do not reply to this email to report issues, rather file a bug on bugzilla.opensuse.org. For more information on filing bugs please see https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports Packages changed: certmonger (0.79.15 -> 0.79.19) eog (45.1 -> 45.2) git gnome-remote-desktop (45.0 -> 45.1) gnome-shell (45.2 -> 45.3) gvfs (1.52.1 -> 1.52.2) hwdata (0.377 -> 0.378) libgxps (0.3.2 -> 0.3.2+5) libstorage-ng (4.5.170 -> 4.5.171) libxkbcommon mutter (45.2 -> 45.3) nodejs21 (21.4.0 -> 21.5.0) publicsuffix (20231213 -> 20240107) redis (7.2.3 -> 7.2.4) sg3_utils (1.48+6.7f43e14 -> 1.48+7.63e63cb) transmission (4.0.4 -> 4.0.5) yast2-packager (5.0.1 -> 5.0.2) === Details === ==== certmonger ==== Version update (0.79.15 -> 0.79.19) - Update to 0.79.19 - Removed 0001-Disable-DSA-in-the-RPM-spec.patch - Added 0001-Update-tests-to-be-compatible-with-OpenSSL-3.2.patch ==== eog ==== Version update (45.1 -> 45.2) Subpackages: eog-lang - Update to version 45.2: + data: Update appdata. + Updated translations. ==== git ==== Subpackages: git-core git-email git-web perl-Git - gitweb AppArmor profile: allow reading etc/gitweb-common.conf (boo#1218664) ==== gnome-remote-desktop ==== Version update (45.0 -> 45.1) Subpackages: gnome-remote-desktop-lang - Update to version 45.1: + session: - Assert region size to be greater than 0 - Add debug message to also output new EI regions - Scale absolute pointer position with respect to the EI region - Clear all EI related instances before dbus session stop call - Only notify keysym when EI keyboard is available - Add struct for absolute pointer motion events + vnc-pipewire-stream: Don't remove buffer while dequeueing it + rdp-pipewire-stream: Don't remove buffer while dequeueing it + Adapt usage of abs pointer motion events to GrdEventPointerMotionAbs + Updated translations. ==== gnome-shell ==== Version update (45.2 -> 45.3) Subpackages: gnome-extensions gnome-shell-calendar gnome-shell-lang - Update to version 45.3: + Allow any enter key to be used to screenshot. + Fix spinner in light style variant. + Improve formatting of extension errors. + Fixed crash. + Misc. bug fixes and cleanups. + Updated translations. - Drop gnome-shell_nb_fix_trans.patch: fixed upstream. ==== gvfs ==== Version update (1.52.1 -> 1.52.2) Subpackages: gvfs-backend-afc gvfs-backend-goa gvfs-backend-samba gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse gvfs-lang - Update to version 1.52.2: + smb: Fix livelock when mounting share without enough permissions. + smb: Fi moving files across filesystem boundaries. + Updated transltions. ==== hwdata ==== Version update (0.377 -> 0.378) - update to 0.378: * Update pci, usb and vendor ids ==== libgxps ==== Version update (0.3.2 -> 0.3.2+5) - Update to version 0.3.2+5: + DOAP: Fix 'bug-database' value to point to GNOME GitLab Issues + images: - For jpeg images try to get the image resolution from exif first - Add support for jpeg images with CMYK color space + Fix compiler warnings + Fix meson warnings - Switch to git checkout via source service, use explicit commit. - Use ldconfig_scriptlets macro for post(un) handling. - Update URL to new home. - Drop no longer needed libgxps-rpmlintrc. ==== libstorage-ng ==== Version update (4.5.170 -> 4.5.171) Subpackages: libstorage-ng-lang libstorage-ng-ruby libstorage-ng1 - merge gh#openSUSE/libstorage-ng#977 - provide light_probe function with SystemInfo parameter - 4.5.171 ==== libxkbcommon ==== Subpackages: libxkbcommon-x11-0 libxkbcommon0 libxkbregistry0 - add libxkbregistry-devel to baselibs for use by wine-32bit. (bsc#1218640) ==== mutter ==== Version update (45.2 -> 45.3) Subpackages: mutter-lang - Update to version 45.3: + Fix handling of relative mode for tablets. + Fix forcing EGLStream with NVIDIA proprietary driver. + Sync geometry only when window is mapped. + Improve repick due to transform changes. + wayland/client: Add make_desktop() method. + Fix occasional artifacts at top of X11 fullscreen windows. + background: Fix background color around image. + Fixed crashes. + Plugged leaks. + Misc. bug fixes and cleanups. + Updated translations. ==== nodejs21 ==== Version update (21.4.0 -> 21.5.0) Subpackages: npm21 - Update to 21.5.0: * module: merge config with package_json_reader * src: move package resolver to c++ * doc: + deprecate hash constructor + deprecate dirent.path - linker_lto_jobs.patch: refreshed ==== publicsuffix ==== Version update (20231213 -> 20240107) - Update to version 20240107: * Remove homeoffice.gov.uk (#1909) * util: gTLD data autopull updates for 2024-01-06T15:12:04 UTC (#1918) ==== redis ==== Version update (7.2.3 -> 7.2.4) - redis 7.2.4: (boo#1218646) - Security fixes - (CVE-2023-41056) In some cases, Redis may incorrectly handle resizing of memory buffers which can result in incorrect accounting of buffer sizes and lead to heap overflow and potential remote code execution. - Bug fixes - Fix crashes of cluster commands clusters with mixed versions of 7.0 and 7.2 (#12805, #12832) - Fix slot ownership not being properly handled when deleting a slot from a node (#12564) - Fix atomicity issues with the RedisModuleEvent_Key module API event (#12733) ==== sg3_utils ==== Version update (1.48+6.7f43e14 -> 1.48+7.63e63cb) Subpackages: libsgutils2-1_48-2 - Fix spurious warning for non-SCSI devices (boo#1218666) ==== transmission ==== Version update (4.0.4 -> 4.0.5) Subpackages: transmission-common transmission-gtk transmission-gtk-lang - Update to version 4.0.5: + Fixed 4.0.0 bug where the IP address field in UDP announces were not encoded in network byte order. + Fixed a bug that incorrectly escaped JSON strings in some locales. + Fixed 4.0.4 decreased download speeds for people who set a low upload bandwidth limit. + Fixed bug that prevented editing trackers on magnet links. + Fixed HTTP tracker announces and scrapes sometimes failing after adding a torrent file by HTTPS URL. + In RPC responses, change the default sort order of torrents to match Transmission 3.00. + Fixed tr_sys_path_copy() behavior on some Synology Devices. + Fix: only append .added suffix to watchdir files. + Fixed crash when opening torrent file from "Recently used" section in GTK 4. ==== yast2-packager ==== Version update (5.0.1 -> 5.0.2) - After installation disable the empty installation repository from the SLE15 Online medium (bsc#1182303) - 5.0.2

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openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 13.03.2024
by Lubos Kocman 07 Aug '24

07 Aug '24

!!! HEADS UP WE ARE BACK USING JITSI !!! https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting How to join the meeting? https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensuse_release_enginee… All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting ## Attendees ana,guillaumeg, DimStar, lkocman, DocB, bmwiedemann,maxlin ## Leap Leap 15.6 Beta build Build630.1 bringing fix to Virtualbox was published yesterday in the evening. Publishing seem to be stuck as the data is not available on download-o-o . I did raise it with autobuild (#team-dist) aarch64 has an issue with running firefox with <= 4GB of memory. In comparison chromium seems to work with 2GB. This is a problems ince our minimal requirements for GNOME states 3GB https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221314 Leap 15.6 Beta known issues page https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Known_bugs_15.6# How do we see that submissions to SUSE:SLE-15-SP6:GA got accepted? The sync state doesn't work, easiest is to check particular package in SUSE:SLE-15-SP6:GA in OBS. Ongoing Plasma 5.27.1 update https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/154 based on Feedback from openSUSE Leap future strategy discussion with Rick Spencer on Friday in Prague. Leap 15.6 appliances are currently blocked at https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213595 All openQA runs with 15.5 and 15.6 isos booted off USB fail: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/3992142#step/finish_desktop/2 It is visible that udev prefers the by-label link to sda instead of sda1 for some reason, even though https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213185 implies that the fix for https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/28468 got backported. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (DimStar) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 136 failed 47 unresolvable (last week 139 failed, 33 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz => Around ~80 are python packages that are still failing to build with Python 3.12 Most relevant updates: * Linux Kernel Longterm 6.6.21 * libpng 1.6.43 * poppler 24.03.0 * procps 14.5+0 * wine 9.4 * buildah 1.35.0 * MozillaFirefox 123.0.1 * libreoffice 24.2.1.2, * update openSUSE-build-key (new suse container key!) * KDE Frameworks and Plasma 6 + KDE Gear 24.02.0 (QA in progress for snapshot 0311) Max: asking about Plasma 5 parallel availability in TW. Plasma 6 obsoletes Plasma 5, so most were already deleted. Updates waiting / work still in progress: * kernel-source 6.7.9, to be accepted later today * systemd 255.3 ( SR#1152118), needs updated "build" package and fixed transactional-updates, this is blocking rpmlint Dominique: Adrian any update on the -build package for systemd-255.3? Adrian: releasing it as maintenance update will take some time. You'll get it in next minutes for Factory. * Still handle all issues for the new KDE fw + plasma * GCC 14: second phase ongoing, use gcc14 as the default compiler (Staging:Gcc7) * RPM 4.19.1.1 + 4.20 * RPM 4.19.1.1 (user/group dependencies), Packages not included in rings getting updates, still some more to go, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/… * Preparations for RPM 4.20, %patchN won't be supported anymore, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/… * Python 3.12+removal of 3.9 modules: Not all modules fixed to build with Python 3.12, removal of python 3.9 modules blocked by build failures. Python3.9 interpreter would stay for some time more. * go1.22 as default go version, blocked on i586 with packages which export CGO_ENABLED=0 and go build -buildmode pie https://github.com/golang/go/issues/64875 (needs to update ~70 packages) * autoconf 2.72, waiting libreoffice; fixed in version 24.2.2 in devel prj (unstable tree) * llvm 18, some packages FTBFS * shadow 4.15.0, openQA tests failing * libxml 2.12.1, on hold, no progress * dbus-broker as default dbus session manager, now everything builds, two openQA checks failing. Bernhard started to detect+fix/report issues with many packages that mis-use %check 1155606 exiv2 1155640 python-pypuppetdb 1156899 med-tools 1157116 rsync 1157126 gnome-disk-utility 1157141 xsimd 1157313 kosmindoormap 1157317 itinerary 1157315 plasma6-disks https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221321 pspp FTBFS-nocheck ## Richard (Aeon+botmaster) ## Max Leap 15.6 - build stats in Backports: 68 faild(was 79), 22 unresolvable(was 24) * Debugging the uninstallable error from installcheck result * Go through build fails in Backports * Upcoming package change needed but are pending in SLE15 SP6 staging: polkit-default-privs and SDL2_image ## Guillaume - Arm * Tumbleweed: - Blocked by KDE live ISO being too large - Problem with buildah found by openQA - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221243 - WIP: Still some packages built without PAC/BTI, two main reasons: * assembler files without PAC/BTI (usually reported upstream, e.g. openssl, gnutls, etc) * Packages built without distro flags (usually fixed in spec file) * TW installer issues with PAC/BTI - https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1219717 - Unable to reproduce anymore on a different host, while openQA still fails. - rpmlint: https://rpmlint.opensuse.org/ * we noticed that rpmlint does not check anymore for packages built without distro %{optflags}. We should add it back. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1217840 Doug: rpmlint GSOC topic. Neal will be helping to mentor that. https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/204 * Leap 15.6/Backports SP6: - No update ## Sarah - s390x Not available * Second mainframe is up and running -> Many builds are running at the moment (also gcc) and the manframe is not really stable -> waiting for a new Tumbleweed release * gcc bug (2021) reactivated related to memory optimization on the mainframe: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=101523 * related openSUSE Bug (not really informative): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188441 GPG keys for s390x, PPCle and RISC-V expired in openSUSE-build-key: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1220993 ## Doug Not available * bugzilla.opensuse.org * Submitted Bug 1220916 * Asked to delete - If you experience any difficulties or find any issues, please, report to SUSE Bugzilla Team (email) * Contribution Workshops * More sign ups at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/openSUSE-Contribution-Workshop * Episode 3 - Bumping "Packaging Guidelines" to a later date and will have a learning "how to report bugs" video * Episode 4 - Language-specific packaging - Rust and Go provided link. Will come in March * Published SD Boot Utils article * Leap 15.6 beta article ready for publication on Thursday at 7 p.m. We should do a little prequel for BugDay/LiveEvent (like a little tweet or similar today). To increase attendance of the event. * GSoC * Sent report to Project Manager * Started seperate workspace on slack for mentees and mentors - https://join.slack.com/t/opensuse-group/shared_invite/zt-2dwsqm6nb-iNJifnVb… * Community Summit * 8 Registrations, 5 Submissions, 2 Hours (pre-announcement) * openSUSE Conference * 48 Registrations, 27 Submissions, 16 Hours (5 Open 4 Business Submissions) ** I won't be available next weeks Static * oSC24 dates June 27 to 29 reserved (Thursday - Saturday) * Open 4 Business June 26 between 2 - 6 p.m. at Franken Campus * AI topics (static) ## Dirk Not available ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling lkocman: Not available Customer request for Re-addition of rsh to Leap 15.5 / 15.6 and related Package Hub modules for SLES 15 SP5/SP6. ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Not avialable expired repodata warning for http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.6/backports/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.6/non-oss/ This was mentioned as part of https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1220993 Struggling with chromium update. Maintainers are not currently able to update it to the current version. No transition method for expired keys. Temporarily disabling the key in libcontainer policy (Marcus please correct me). The goal is to have the least disruptive method for it. Dominique: the new key seems to raise some issues - transition needs to be figured out. Marcus: I did check podman documentation and am looking if we can have temporarily two keys in parallel. Marcus: will we resign all the images on the registry or only new ones? Dominique: for rpm we usually accept both old and new key for about a half a year. lkocman: Leap Micro 6.X update channel setup will have to be done soon (within a few weeks). ## Adrian - OBS No update lkocman: we need to cleanup accepted / rejected requests in SUSE:SLE-15-SP6:GA in OBS. lkocman doesn't have permissions to do so in OBS. Workaround would be to re-add/reject suse-sle-reviewers review. Lubos will write to autobuild + add Marco to the first line. ## Simon (Leap Replacement/Linarite) Not available ## Bernhard Slowroll * https://openqa.opensuse.org/group_overview/120 has regular runs now * kernel-longterm 6.6.21 from Factory * kernel-default follows Factory * OBS has a Slowroll distribution target, so it is easy to add in devel projects * https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE_Slowroll/ gets some activity ## Open Floor

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New Tumbleweed snapshot 20240310 released!
by Dominique Leuenberger 16 Jul '24

16 Jul '24

Please note that this mail was generated by a script. The described changes are computed based on the x86_64 DVD. The full online repo contains too many changes to be listed here. Please check the known defects of this snapshot before upgrading: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/overview?distri=opensuse&groupid=1&versio… Please do not reply to this email to report issues, rather file a bug on bugzilla.opensuse.org. For more information on filing bugs please see https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports Packages changed: perl perl-Authen-SASL perl-Convert-ASN1 perl-CryptX perl-File-Listing perl-HTTP-Cookies perl-HTTP-Message perl-IO-Tty perl-IPC-Run3 perl-LWP-Protocol-https perl-Mail-DKIM (1.20230911 -> 1.20240124) perl-URI perl-XML-Parser perl-libwww-perl === Details === ==== perl ==== Subpackages: perl-base perl-doc - Use %patch -P N instead of deprecated %patchN. ==== perl-Authen-SASL ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-Convert-ASN1 ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-CryptX ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-File-Listing ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-HTTP-Cookies ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-HTTP-Message ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-IO-Tty ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-IPC-Run3 ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-LWP-Protocol-https ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-Mail-DKIM ==== Version update (1.20230911 -> 1.20240124) - updated to 1.20240124 see /usr/share/doc/packages/perl-Mail-DKIM/Changes 1.20240124 2024-01-24 UTC * ARC: Return fail for any ARC set with an instance number greater than 50. This brings ARC verification in line with DKIM verification limits. ==== perl-URI ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-XML-Parser ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides ==== perl-libwww-perl ==== - Fix disabling of __perllib_provides

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Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2024/07
by Dominique Leuenberger 19 Jun '24

19 Jun '24

Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers, This week we have released 5 snapshots (0209, 0211, 0212, 0213, and 0214). With 5 snapshots, this is quite a normal week. The most relevant changes in those snapshots were: * SDL 2.30.0 * c-ares 1.26.0 (after a lengthy staging phase) * fwupd 1.9.13 * PostgreSQL 16.2 * Pulseaudio 17.0 * GTK 4.12.5 * Python 3.11.8 * KDE Frameworks 5.115.0 * RPM 4.19.1.1 * Node.JS 21.6.1 The list of things currently being tested remained largely unchanged: * Meson 1.3.2 * Shadow 4.14.5 * pkgconf 2.1.1 * RPM: enable reproducible builds by default (bsc#1148824). For upstream versions see: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/2880 * A bunch of cleanup work to eliminate more of python2 (boo#1219306) * dbus-broker: a big step forward; upgrades seem to be an issue that needs to be addressed * libxml 2.12.x: slow progress * GCC 14: our usual 2-phase approach to introduce it. Currently working on phase 1, meaning GCC14 will be providing the base libraries (libgcc_s1, libstdc++…). The compiler itself will stay at version 13 for now. Only one issue left: qemu fails to build Cheers, Dominique

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Re: Tumbleweed snapshot 20240418 and dracut- pcr-signature
by Eric Schwarzenbach 19 Jun '24

19 Jun '24

On 4/20/24 11:35 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > On 20.04.2024 18:22, Eric Schwarzenbach wrote: >> On 4/20/24 4:48 AM, aplanas wrote: >>> and for now if you have GRUB2 you should not have sdbootutil not >>> dracut-pcr-signature. >> >> I assume that first "not" was a typo? > > The second. This response is even more confusing to me. I take this sentence fragment to mean "No, the first 'not' was not the typo, the second 'not' was the typo," which would mean the sentence should have been something like "and for now if you have GRUB2 you should not have sdbootutil [but instead have] dracut-pcr-signature" I don't know how to reconcile this with the earlier statement that the correct solution is the deinstallation of dracut-pcr-signature.

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Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?
by Neal Gompa 07 Jun '24

07 Jun '24

Hey everyone, It looks like Redis, Inc. has announced that future versions of Redis are no longer OSS and will be dual-licensed SSPL and RSAL[1]. Absent a fork of Redis coming up, we will likely need to remove Redis from openSUSE. All I can say is... :( [1]: https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/ -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!

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factory@ is now under moderation
by Neal Gompa 28 May '24

28 May '24

Hello all, Due to the recent continuous inappropriate behavior on the factory@ mailing list, we have taken the extraordinary action of moderating the entire mailing list. Each message being submitted will be actively reviewed for approval until the Board works through the necessary and appropriate behavior to resolve this incident. -- Neal Gompa (ID: Pharaoh_Atem)

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What is pulling in *-lang packages?
by Stefan Seyfried 06 May '24

06 May '24

Hi all, I recently installed a new laptop with Tumbleweed instead of my old habit of just moving over the installed disk. Now I'm facing some issues that were not present before in my old installation. One of these issues is that something wants to pull in addiditonal -lang packages that I do not want: mixi:~ # zypper -v dup --no-recommends [...] The following 8 NEW packages are going to be installed: cpupower-lang 6.8.6-7.9 file-roller-lang 44.1-1.1 gcr-lang 4.3.0-1.1 gnome-online-accounts-lang 3.50.1-1.1 gtk3-lang 3.24.41-2.1 icewm-lang 3.4.5-3.1 pipewire-lang 1.0.4-3.1 xz-lang 5.6.1.revertto5.4-3.1 As you can see, I already added "--no-recommends" as every experienced user obviously always does, but the *-lang are still added. I can run "zypper al '*-lang'" to avoid this, but then it will never update the installed lang-packages, which is also not what I want. (I do not want translations for any command line tools and graphical stuff that has to be installed but I never actually use, but I do want translations for selected applications) The lock not breaking the update does show that these lang packages are only recommended and not required. But then why does "--no-recommends" not stop them from being installed? Best regards, -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman

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