November 2011 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Desura gaming platform to go opensource with GPL
by Roger Luedecke 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

www.desura.com They are considering going open source with their client, and it looks extremely likely they will. This could be an opportunity to push OBS and if we act fast we could take advantage of being the first distro to offer it in a repo in RPM format. Maybe some useful code too. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed and Apper
by Steffen Schloenvoigt 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hi list, I have a short question: Is it possible to configure Apper so that it can be used correctly with Tumbleweed? Background: Updates in Tumbleweed should be executed with "zypper dup" but what Apper usually does is a normal package update without changing repos if needed (please tell me if I'm wrong). If this is really the case, would it be possible to deliver some kind of modiified Apper version or configuration in the TW repositories so that Apper also does a "zypper dup" here? Thanks and best regards Steffen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] This needs fixing.. We look like idiots.... We generally are not. :)
by Peter Linnell 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Folks, Please read carefully both: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731812 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716291 I am not one to whine about technical decision but this needs some attention. Really. Peter openSUSE Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Chromium package conflicts.
by Roger Luedecke 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Problem: chromium-desktop-kde-17.0.922.0-1.1.2.i586 conflicts with chromium- desktop-gnome provided by chromium-desktop-gnome-17.0.922.0-1.1.2.i586 Solution 1: deinstallation of chromium-desktop-gnome-17.0.922.0-1.1.2.i586 Solution 2: do not install chromium-desktop-kde-17.0.922.0-1.1.2.i586 Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Regarding /run and the new tmpfs'
by Roger Luedecke 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

You may recall me freaking out about all these strange new partitions. I have since read the document from Fedora concerning it. IMHO I think this is brilliant. I personally am a fan of the straightforward, especially since I am hardly any sort of Linux guru. The more straightforward and transparent the system is, the more chance I have to learn, fix things, and remember where the heck to find stuff! Thank you for this (apparently) bold, but no-brainer decision. I feel that common sense has won the day, and am glad that I chose a distribution willing to make controversial choices when they are obviously good. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] libgtk-x11-2.0: unresolved g_datalist_get_data
by Stefan Quandt 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hi, I'm running 12.1 milestone 5. If i start emacs (or pidgin) i get the following error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_datalist_get_data Am i missing some library? Is this a packaging error? How may I resolve this? Kind regards Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] release notes link broken
by Carlos E. R. 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

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[opensuse-factory] Fork: secured system in case of interrupted update installation
by Roger Luedecke 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:03:24 AM Guido Berhoerster wrote: > > Actually, I think we cuold have a more elegant solution than either. > > Similar to the new kernel backup thingamajig scheme we just > > implemented, we could have it check during boot to make sure there > > wasn't an interruption in the updates and if so have it roll back those > > changes. This would mean having to keep copies of the packages changed; > > but in the back of my mind I think we could do it in a way that > > wouldn't require keeping every RPM ever DL'd. > > That's basically reinventing Solaris boot environments which > might become possible with btrfs. The basic idea is to snapshot > the current root fs, clone it, mount the clone and apply the > updates within the context of the clone. Then offer both the > updated clone and the original environment in the grub boot menu, > if everything went ok you boot into the updated clone and > eventually promote it, otherwise you boot back into the original > fs and destroy the clone again. To me the only sane way of > applying package updates and an area where Linux is sorely > lacking. I'm not sure we would need to be so complicated, but I think the idea is good. Certainly this does give a very strong push for the usecase of btrfs in a basic desktop users environment. I think it could be a bit simpler though. Simply have a script that checks to see if there was an interruption, and if so have it reestablish the pre-update files and related configurations. I'm not sure that cloning the root fs and such is necessary, though it would offer an even greater chance of recovery. Ultimately the question I think is how hard would it be to implement the more robust solution, and what sort of problems this could bring to an end user. IF I understand properly (probably not :P) we would need (or at least it would be very advisable) to have a default system proposal that has a separate '/sys' partition in order to secure the kernel elements. /me is starting to get lost now. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] systemd and the fam.service
by Freek de Kruijf 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

I want to point out that there is serious problem with the fam.service. In 12.1 RC2 it did not start due to a failure op open a port, which in my view could have something to do with systemd because it can also be started/activated in xinitd. It gives the same error when started in systemv or when activated in xinitd. But in 12.1 GM it does not even start the process, systemd can't find the fam.service, although the file /etc/init.d/fam is available. Starting it in 12.1 GM with systemv brings back the error message. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Snapper Wiki Pages
by Arvin Schnell 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hi, I have updated the wiki pages for snapper and added a tutorial and FAQ, see http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Snapper. Feel free to ask further questions. Regards, Arvin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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