January 2011 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Problems for non-IT persons
by Parshwa Murdia 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hi, I am ***ABSOLUTELY NEW*** in the world of linux and IT. Someone told me to use Linux despite of Windows. I thought and yes it is more secured that is what I know. Now when I searched for free Linux, I got numerous OS, probably distros, what is called here. I am highly confused as to with what start with and know the basic things. As my job is different but today without computers nothing is there and the world is going to be digital, so I thought to take suggestions of the Linux users, experts and developers. Open SUSE name comes at the first page of google search, or probably at any other search engine. Now my requirement: Audio-video conversion, watching movies, listening music, taking prints, secured banks transactions, multimedia, image editing, CD/DVD burning, and of course net surfing and emailing. All this I could do in Windows GUI, but I felt some reason to switch to Linux. Now what I heard and got to know is that there are numerous OS in Linux itself. People say Fedora is highly highly secured and good, yes it could be but is having a very frequent update cycle and much more technical in nature. For Ubuntu (Long Term Support), I am quite confused. Cent OS is stable but is like Fedora itself, so is a little typical, what I guess. Scientific Linux might be good. But my request is to let me know if Open SUSE is okay for a novice, especially for the person who is not from softwares but want to use a linux distro. Secondly, I guess (but don't know) if it would easily fulfill my purposes without going into the core technical details. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Problems for non-IT persons
by Parshwa Murdia 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hi, I am ***ABSOLUTELY NEW*** in the world of linux and IT. Someone told me to use Linux despite of Windows. I thought and yes it is more secured that is what I know. Now when I searched for free Linux, I got numerous OS, probably distros, what is called here. I am highly confused as to with what start with and know the basic things. As my job is different but today without computers nothing is there and the world is going to be digital, so I thought to take suggestions of the Linux users, experts and developers. Open SUSE name comes at the first page of google search, or probably at any other search engine. Now my requirement: Audio-video conversion, watching movies, listening music, taking prints, secured banks transactions, multimedia, image editing, CD/DVD burning, and of course net surfing and emailing. All this I could do in Windows GUI, but I felt some reason to switch to Linux. Now what I heard and got to know is that there are numerous OS in Linux itself. People say Fedora is highly highly secured and good, yes it could be but is having a very frequent update cycle and much more technical in nature. For Ubuntu (Long Term Support), I am quite confused. Cent OS is stable but is like Fedora itself, so is a little typical, what I guess. Scientific Linux might be good. But my request is to let me know if Open SUSE is okay for a novice, especially for the person who is not from softwares but want to use a linux distro. Secondly, I guess (but don't know) if it would easily fulfill my purposes without going into the core technical details. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] wxGTK = wxWidgets - changes in packaging
by Stanislav Brabec 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hallo. I did a big change of wxGTK package. It consists on rename of wxGTK package to wxWidgets and splitting to four separated packages (plus one new). wxGTK -> wxWidgets + wxWidgets-wxcontainer + wxWidgets-ansi + python-wxWidgets wxGTK-doc->wiWidgets-docs If your package exists in Factory, you need just to accept my submit request and send your package to Factory. Here are details what is happening: The new wxWidgets package packages each library separately. Depending on the devel package you will pick, it will link against the particular wxWidgets ABI variant. wxWidgets-devel with STL interface and Unicode is a new ABI recommended by upstream. wxWidgets-wxcontainer-devel with the old wxcontainer interface and Unicode support is now deprecated. wxWidgets-ansi-devel with the old wxcontainer interface and without Unicode support is now strongly deprecated. (No package in Factory links against that any more.) python-wxWidgets is now based on the STL variant. Other variants are not available. You can also find wxWidgets-2_9 in the X11:wxWidgets OBS project repositories. Upstream did a bad thing - depending on configure options the ABI changes but the library name does not. It causes many ugly clashes. That is why I moved libraries to a dedicated directory, so any package could depend on a particular library. Well, RPM does not like that and does not understand idea that more libraries have the same SONAME and binary picks the correct one using RPATH. That is why each wxWidgets based package must fix BuildRequires and include two lines to fix dependencies: %define _use_internal_dependency_generator 0 %define __find_requires %wx_requires -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +49 911 7405384547 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OBS 2.2 got deployed on api.opensuse.org
by Adrian Schröter 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

After the last unsuccessfull tries it looks like have catched all performance problems finally. So api.opensuse.org is running OBS 2.2 (not yet released) now. The only remaining regression, I am aware of atm is that osc build with -- local-package option is not working. I will look into that in next minutes. Another big difference is now the behaviour of submit and devel change requests were you have no maintainer permissions in the source. In the past you were simply not allowed to create such a request. OBS 2.2 is allowing to create such an request, but adds the maintainer of the source package as reviewer of the request. This means concrete, when you see something, either a new package or and updated package, which should go to another project like openSUSE:Factory, you can ask now to submit it via such a request. But the original maintainer still can accept or decline this request. I hope this fullfills the discussed needs which got formely discussed. Unfortunatly, neither osc nor the webui can handle these reviews nicely yet. We will work on this these days as well. Have fun and please report if you see regressions with the new api. thanks adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian(a)suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] RFNP: multitail
by Pascal Bleser 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

(RFNP = Request For New Package ;D) I'd like to push "multitail" as a new package into factory, from server:monitoring (I also linked it into utilities). -------------------------------------------- multitail (server:monitoring) - SR 58826 -------------------------------------------- Multitail is basically a tail on steroids, a must-have in any sysadmin's toolbox. To quote upstream: "MultiTail lets you view one or multiple files like the original tail program. The difference is that it creates multiple windows on your console (with ncurses). It can also monitor wildcards: if another file matching the wildcard has a more recent modification date, it will automatically switch to that file. That way you can, for example, monitor a complete directory of files. Merging of 2 or even more logfiles is possible. It can also use colors while displaying the logfiles (through regular expressions), for faster recognition of what is important and what not. It can also filter lines (again with regular expressions). It has interactive menus for editing given regular expressions and deleting and adding windows. One can also have windows with the output of shell scripts and other software. When viewing the output of external software, MultiTail can mimic the functionality of tools like 'watch' and such." First revision is 2010-02-14, although the package was maintained in the Packman repository since a lot longer. The project is in maintenance mode, with very few releases, but still active nevertheless. Bugtracker: n/a Mailing-list: http://keetweej.vanheusden.com/multitail/ URL: http://www.vanheusden.com/multitail/ License: GPLv2 or later Dependencies: * ncurses-devel cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM XI: 5 + 6 Feb 2011, http://fosdem.org

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[opensuse-factory] GDM Problems with factory
by Sankar P 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

I had a 11.3 laptop. I added http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ to the zypper repositories and did a `zypper dup`. Ever since that, when I boot my machine, the gdm screen does not come up. If I boot into the failsafe kernel, then I get a commandline and then, I need to manually start the services of dbus, hal and network. after this if I do a rcxdm start the gdm comes up. However, the screen resolution is very very less and so everything appears big. Everything was working fine in 11.3 in the same machine and most recently with Tumbleweed as well. What files can I provide for debugging ? Thanks -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] /etc/sysconfig/ settings ignored on alternate boots
by Felix Miata 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

x86 Sempron/VIA chipset MGA video 1M RAM After today's dup (last dup'd about 5 days ago): 1-neither auto nor boot nor ifplugd for STARTMODE resulted in ifup eth0 being successfully executed by ifup-eth0 on alternate boots. The only available network connection on the system is or ever will be is eth0. 2-KBD_RATE & KBD_DELAY settings (20 & 250) in keyboard were ignored on alternate subsequent boots. 3-rpcbind was only started on boots where eth0 was successfully started These are only what I've noticed. NetworkManager is not installed. SuSEfirewall2 is not installed. *bluetoo* and *wirele* are not installed. zypper in -f sysvinit-tools and sysvinit seemed to fix these problems, until I figured out these problems only appear on a l t e r n a t e b o o t s (over more than 4 cycle pairs of testing)! WIERD!!! Ideas? -- "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver." Proverbs 16:16 NKJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Rescue program on dvd
by Carlos E. R. 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I know the rescue option in the dvd had to be dropped. Too problematic, and no maintainer. Could some of it be "rescued"? The thing that fails most is grub. Just a repair grub, perhaps a repair missing kernel/initrd? Once the system boots, the user should be able to repair the rest (hope). :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyodsMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W3mACeL4xQWJevZF3nzSzbYWKtz3dP yQMAnjtrUrfJRGrGfoyEouiJN6Q2XH37 =T2Uo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Nvidia, Tumbleweed and UDBA (Universal Driver Build Assistant)
by Boris Manojlovic 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Dear all, What is UDBA: UDBA is my project which should help all users that are using Tumbleweed as updates source and are missing binary driver packages for some of non free packages as for instance nvidia-gfx. As all non free driver packages are prepared on OBS repositories it is easy for advanced users to build binary packages from them using osc util locally. But regular users are left behind and waiting for regular release cycles of openSUSE which really is unacceptable from user using Tumbleweed repo. So there is where my project (from this moment simply called UDBA) comes in. It is front end for standard rpmbuild process that users are probably not willing to use (or I'm probably wrong :) ). UDBA is build on YaST framework and as such have frontends for Qt, GTK and curses by default. Probably webyast would work too but i didn't had time nor need for this to test. Where to download it from: To test it please download it from my home repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bmanojlovic:/UDBA/openSUSE_… Needed packages: yast2-udba udba-nvidia-gfxG02 (for nvidia and tested to be working) How to use it: open YaST -> Miscellaneous -> UDBA and look at screen shots bellow. It will ask you to install required packages needed for building rpms What is result of it: Curses UI can be seen on screen shots at: http://bojanka.net/udba/ and generated files from my machine are: /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/x11-video-nvidiaG02-260.19.29-1.x86_64.rpm /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-260.19.29_k2.6.37-1.x86_64.rpm /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-default-260.19.29_k2.6.37-1.x86_64.rpm Where to find source: This project is VERY much work in progress. Source code can be found on github at: https://github.com/bmanojlovic/yast2-udba Bugs: Too many to count or show them here... Not working for any packages currently except video drivers as it is hardcoded in /usr/lib/udba/bin/udba-builder script... Unfortunately current ati-fglrxG02 is not building with 2.6.37 kernel so I'm sorry ati users. (It does build /srv/repos/ati-fglrxG02/x86_64/x11-video-fglrxG02-8.801-1.x86_64.rpm user space package tho) Boris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 2011-01-16 factory-tested status
by Bernhard M. Wiedemann 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, openSUSE-Factory has seen a many updates in recent days, certainly because Milestone 6 of 6 is coming this week. Testing on http://openqa.opensuse.org/ remains interesting. The rate is currently constant at 36 testruns per day, but might increase next week due to new hardware generously sponsored by B1-Systems. There is still https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=660464 randomly affecting many 32bit testruns on KVM (and probably still VirtualBox). However, the very same 2.6.37-kernel works on my two Laptops (except for a panic on suspend-to-RAM). VMs are an important platform for testers/users, so this should not be taken lightly. The other new issue first observed 2011-01-14 12:50 with repo-Build0898 is that /etc/mtab contains only one or two lines, causing df in the "textinfo" test to produce less output. Since this did not have more obvious consequences and was not auto-checked, it slipped through into the factory-tested repo. I have now added a mtab test to make this failure more obvious. The test's log-files now include a list of installed rpms, so it will be easier to trace down which package/update caused an issue. also new: - - XFCE installs are now launching GNOME instead of icewm by default even though DEFAULT_WM is properly set to startxfce4 - - two small kontact issues filed upstream - - upgrade from 11.1 needs some manual work with kernel-default* recently fixed: - - Xorg/gdm with gnomedevel started working today - - firefox4 no more segfaulting on LXDE/XFCE - - most of the other things on the previous list other improvements: - - the results web-interface now got a "ignore boring results" checkbox to hide results that likely only showed known issues. - - there is now a openqabot posting new test results on #opensuse-testing - - on 2011-01-06 (a public holiday in Nuremberg) I had taken some hours to adapt the OS-autoinst framework to testrun Debian and Fedora systems (of course, the results are nowhere as nice as with openSUSE ;-) http://www3.zq1.de/fedora/Fedora-14-i386-netinst.iso.ogv http://www3.zq1.de/debian/cdimage.debian.org/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.i… Ciao Bernhard M. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0zbBkACgkQSTYLOx37oWT/1gCdGcVyOW07AnUQVc7chg7mW0nR iREAoPE/uIS8fP2z2M2jH/Dd32xIfNun =hL2F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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