January 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] The frustration of updating
by Robert Kaiser 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi, After a few weeks of staying with one state of the Factory system, I decided to update to a current state once again a few hours ago. This requires about 5 GB of download and a few hours to run, so it's not something I'm doing lightly and often. And once again, as so often, YaST started to spit out errors right in the middle of the process telling me the Factory repo doesn't contain some of the packages it wanted to install - probably it's been updated underneath my install and the packages had been replaced with newer versions. I canceled and tried again and then I ran into the same problem with the KDE4 Desktop OBS repo halfway in the install. Can't we have some system that doesn't frustrate you by pulling out files you need right while you're installing them? Couldn't OBS keep files, say, 12-24h after they have been removed from the repo index? This is frustrating enough that I'm only updating this system very rarely nowadays, and I think updating often and testing newer stuff is actually what Factory should be about. The problems I should deal with (if any at all) are ones that arise due to new code, not due to the repo info not matching the available files at the time I'm actually trying to install them. Is there any solution for this? Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] issues with command-not-found speed
by Anicka Bernathova 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

Hello! Yesterday I have found out that from time to time, when I type a typo, it takes a huge amount of time until a "command of found message" appears and I can continue my work. Now I am able to reproduce it every time on my rc1 machine: > time sl bash: sl: command not found real 0m1.289s user 0m0.228s sys 0m0.040s Typing "echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" enables me to reproduce it every time (not doing it means that it happens at random). I am quite sure that our command-not-found package is to blame. I do not know how come it is that slow (I have only some five repositories defined) but it kind of drives me mad. So first - could you tell me a way to disable this functionality? (Commenting out the last line in /etc/bash_command_not_found does not seem to help.) And then, are there any known issues like that? I would like to see this problem fixed but I am afraid we might find out that we simply cannot do any better with Python. If our users like it, we should probably rewrite it to C then :-( Anicka -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Plan for 11.2?
by Birger Kollstrand 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hi, I'm wondering if there is a plan for the 11.2 distribution? It's not when it's available but more what Novell want's to achieve with it. There are several important areas that I would like to help out with: 1. vastly reduced size of the core distro and easy setup for addons. Take out all but core KDE (and Gnome, but I'm a KDE'er so....). 2. mobility. Moving between networks, WLAN, LAN, GPRS , Bluetooth ++. Suspend/Resume, auto setup of VPN when moving outise the home LAN. Roaming profile/autosyncing of data with server with Unison , iFolder or similar. 3. syncing data with mobile phones 4. VPN client and server config. If so, choose one VPN server variant and support it 100%. (I like OpenVPN :-) ) 5. Home. Easy home server setup in one Yast module for useability. Fileserver, printer server, music server, movie server, picture server. 6. Connectivity from different types of clients, especially Upnp and DLNA compatibility. Windows, Mac and Linux client access to printer and file of cource and also wizards or simmilar to aid users in getting connected on the client machines. (Yes this might involve windows/mac/openSolaris SW) 7. media syncing with hanheld devices like iPod's, media phones, Creative ZEN. Also conversion of media to the hanhelds preferred format without the user needing to set up a complex structure. 8. officially supported game archive, maybe also with commercial games available like Opera/flash etc. is now available. 9. availability on new platforms. Specific focus on netbooks. 10. Default media made for USB key as well as DVD. 11. a standard yast module for server setup of net install of machines. This will aid in testing when there is a lot of machine variants to test. Easy restore to original config would be good also. (All server based :-) ) I have 15+ different computeres that I can test with , but it's to much work going back and forth now so I just use 2. Of course, if I do not make any sense (which often happens) I will be glad to discuss the points. And again, these are all parts I will gladly assist in testing. If some of it is made in Python I will try to assist with code also, but be warned. It's better to keep me as tester! Kind Regards Birger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] status distribution week 5
by Stephan Kulow 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hi, The Factory LiveCDs are no longer in my private acount, but are now published automatically once they built: http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/ Right now only x86_64 finished, but you can monitor the progress in the openSUSE:Factory:Live OBS project. Otherwise there is little progress to report atm. Factory works flawless though, which is the good news :) We enabled some security checks, so some more failures are currently in openSUSE:Factory, but nothing to worry about in the current state. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] design question
by Robert Lewis 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

After installing a package why not ask if the user wants to install or remove more packages before bringing up the YaST2 Writing the system configuration? This would save a lot of time and make things faster when multiple uses of Software Management is going to happen I would think. Cheers, Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] copy files >= 1-3 GB
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

Hello, Is this a known Problem ? on my x86_64 System ( I mean after Kernel update) the system is going very slow, by copying bigger Files on SATA Drives ? I tested this now with 11.0 & 11.1 With "top" I have on CPU0 6,5%, CPU1 0,9% -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] WANTED: Bugzilla team for X.Org/SaX2 components
by Stefan Dirsch 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

Hello everybody, if you are looking for a way to participate in the openSUSE project here is another way to help us out. We are looking for people interested in becoming part of our openSUSE development effort on the X Window System. What we would need are people who participate in the triage of X.Org/SaX2 bugs filed for openSUSE. Of course we also would appreciate help in fixing issues as we are not always able to reproduce the bugs which are reported. Please contact me if you're interested. We want your help! :-) Thanks, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [boottime] The effect of preload
by Stephan Kulow 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi, I spent some time optimizing preload (still not done), but I wanted to share two bootcharts for my laptop: one with preload and one without: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Bootchart-nopreload.png (44s) http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Bootchart-preload.png (34s) Otherwise the systems are exactly the same. The only difference is a mv /sbin/preload{,.away} - both boot into an autologin icewm-lite. I let you know when I submit it to factory. For now I collect patches in home:coolo:Factory Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Successor WANTED for maintaining build scripts of fglrx driver
by Stefan Dirsch 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi I'm searching for a successor for maintaining the openSUSE build scripts of the fglrx driver, i.e. the stuff you can find in packages/SuSE when you extract the ATI installer. These files are version controlled via git on phoronix, so ATI can pick them up for a new (beta) release. Benefits are access to ATI's beta mailing list, early beta releases of the driver and your name being mentioned as maintaining these bits. Apart from me no longer being available soon to update the scripts for newer driver releases , there's also room for improvement for these scripts, e.g. a radical cleanup and adding of new features. Please drop me a note, if you're interested. Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 11.2 Alpha0 x86_64 odd happening at FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE
by Sid Boyce 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

On one box everything works fine, kde4 factory installed. On this box at the same level I see the problem as "root" so far with qjackctl and VirtualBox. Doing strace, it gets to the futex line and nothing else happens. Doing "strace -s 256 -f <app>" qjackctl ========== stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 open("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", O_RDONLY) = 8 fcntl(8, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 fstat(8, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7fc021415000 read(8, "[$Version]\nupdate_info=kwin.upd:"..., 4096) = 633 read(8, "", 4096) = 0 close(8) = 0 munmap(0x7fc021415000, 4096) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", 0x7fff29471130) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/share/kde4/config/oxygenrc", 0x7fff29471130) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=24576, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=24576, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=28, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=28, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=30, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=30, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", O_RDONLY) = 8 fcntl(8, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 fstat(8, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7fc021415000 read(8, "[Windeco]\nBlendTitlebarColors=fa"..., 4096) = 55 read(8, "", 4096) = 0 close(8) = 0 munmap(0x7fc021415000, 4096) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 8 connect(8, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-ksjxzbvGu6"}, 23) = 0 fcntl(8, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl(8, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 fcntl(8, F_GETFD) = 0 fcntl(8, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 geteuid() = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x1, [PIPE], SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, 0x7fc01c7b66e0}, {SIG_DFL, [], 0}, 8) = 0 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLOUT}], 1, 0) = 1 ([{fd=8, revents=POLLOUT}]) write(8, "\0", 1) = 1 write(8, "AUTH EXTERNAL 30\r\n", 18) = 18 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=8, revents=POLLIN}]) read(8, "OK 197d254afad8d9cdb31779c5497e6"..., 2048) = 37 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=8, revents=POLLOUT}]) write(8, "BEGIN\r\n", 7) = 7 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=8, revents=POLLIN|POLLOUT|POLLHUP}]) read(8, "", 2048) = 0 close(8) = 0 futex(0x77c964, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL VirtualBox ----------- stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 open("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", O_RDONLY) = 14 fcntl(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 fstat(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=633, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7fdc1693a000 read(14, "[$Version]\nupdate_info=kwin.upd:"..., 4096) = 633 read(14, "", 4096) = 0 close(14) = 0 munmap(0x7fdc1693a000, 4096) = 0 stat("/root/.kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", 0x7fff1e9acb70) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/share/kde4/config/oxygenrc", 0x7fff1e9acb70) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=24576, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=24576, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=28, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=28, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=30, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=30, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 lstat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", O_RDONLY) = 14 fcntl(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/kde4/share/config/oxygenrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 fstat(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=55, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7fdc1693a000 read(14, "[Windeco]\nBlendTitlebarColors=fa"..., 4096) = 55 read(14, "", 4096) = 0 close(14) = 0 munmap(0x7fdc1693a000, 4096) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 14 connect(14, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-ksjxzbvGu6"}, 23) = 0 fcntl(14, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl(14, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 fcntl(14, F_GETFD) = 0 fcntl(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 geteuid() = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x1, [PIPE], SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, 0x7fdc15d416e0}, {SIG_DFL, [], 0}, 8) = 0 poll([{fd=14, events=POLLOUT}], 1, 0) = 1 ([{fd=14, revents=POLLOUT}]) write(14, "\0", 1) = 1 write(14, "AUTH EXTERNAL 30\r\n", 18) = 18 poll([{fd=14, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=14, revents=POLLIN}]) read(14, "OK 197d254afad8d9cdb31779c5497e6"..., 2048) = 37 poll([{fd=14, events=POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=14, revents=POLLOUT}]) write(14, "BEGIN\r\n", 7) = 7 poll([{fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=14, revents=POLLIN|POLLOUT|POLLHUP}]) read(14, "", 2048) = 0 close(14) = 0 futex(0x6a8024, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL lancelot@tindog:~> sudo qjackctl root's password: qjackctl: cannot connect to X server lancelot@tindog:~> sudo VirtualBox Qt WARNING: VirtualBox: cannot connect to X server lancelot@tindog:~> The same happens after doing "xhost +". If I run the apps as user, they work except for qjackctl which starts up and jackd shuts down, failing to connect. Thought of opening a bug, but it only happens on one box. Any ideas appreciated. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 11.0 and virtualbox
by Mindaugas Vaiciulis 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hello, after kernel update (to 2.6.25.20-0.1-default) i installed Virtual box (virtualbox-ose-1.5.6-33.1) witch one doesn't work: # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup Stopping VirtualBox kernel module done Recompiling VirtualBox kernel module, NOT. It has been packaged. done Starting VirtualBox kernel module failed (Kernel module not found) manually modules load just fine, problem is that /etc/init.d/vboxdrv script looks for them in: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates but really they are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/weak-updates Creating symlink between them solves problem. In last used kernel (2.6.25.18-0.2-default) were no "weak-updates" directory (witch caused problem) only "updates". Can i call this issue a bug? -- Mindaugas Vaiciulis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] KDE4.2 Final - in anticipation of,
by Basil Chupin 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

In anticipation of the release of KDE4.2 Final later today I would like to firstly state what my current situation is re having KDE4.2 RC1 on my system, and also ask a couple of questions. I am running oS 11.1 with KDE4.2RC1 - at least this is what the logon screen suggests when queried; but I am wondering if I *am* running all the correct files necessary for 4.2RC1. I am using the following repositories which I *believe* are the correct ones to have used to have 4.2RC1 on the system for testing (but the naming convention used in the repos is a tad confusing): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/op… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.… I also have these which are used for the original 4.1 installation: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1 My questions are, (1) have I used the correct repositories above (the first 3 in particular) to have 4.2RC1 for testing on my system, and (2) will using these repositories also update my system to KDE4.2 Final when it is released later today? Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] KDE4.2 Final - in anticipation of, REPOST
by Basil Chupin 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

In anticipation of the release of KDE4.2 Final later today I would like to firstly state what my current situation is re having KDE4.2 RC1 on my system, and also ask a couple of questions. I am running oS 11.1 with KDE4.2RC1 - at least this is what the logon screen suggests when queried; but I am wondering if I *am* running all the correct files necessary for 4.2RC1. I am using the following repositories which I *believe* are the correct ones to have used to have 4.2RC1 on the system for testing (but the naming convention used in the repos is a tad confusing): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/op… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.… I also have these which are used for the original 4.1 installation: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1 My questions are, (1) have I used the correct repositories above (the first 3 in particular) to have 4.2RC1 for testing on my system, and (2) will using these repositories also update my system to KDE4.2 Final when it is released later today? Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Bugzilla out for maintenance, when?
by Carlos E. R. 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Bugzilla shows this message: ] Bugzilla will be offline Saturday January 10 from 10:00 AM until 2:00 PM ] Mountain Time for upgrades and maintenance. Care to specify what is "mountain time"? AFAIK, the time in the montains nearby is the same as in the valley :-P Seriously, though: please specify time in UTC, it is universal. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkllGb8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X3+ACdGGZzlwqV/CkUVDad3sLTl1/Y ZCgAmwW41TBztHRUJ8vA9OiKIKCn9c05 =rVd1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] yast, dhcp,dns and dynamic updates with key problems
by Birger Kollstrand 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Hi, I have seen some issues with the DHCP and DNS interface in Yast on 11.1 , I don't have factory running yet so I have not checked if it's like that there also. Is this familiar ? : - DNS updates are not updated automatically from DHCP without config (usability) - The popup boxes in the DHCP config disapears if i do not keep the left mous button down - When enabling Dynamic updates the parameter "ddns-update-style" is set to none. I belive it should be "interim" Regards Birger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] global proxy configuration
by z 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

1)can global proxy enabling\disabling be performed on-the-fly, without need of relogin? or are there some troubles with it? 2)now proxy requires relogin to work, but yast does not warns user about it, when user changes proxy settings. moreover yast shows proxy config, just as user set it, if user wants to check current proxy settings. and this confuses, if this settings still not applied, and waiting for relogin. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [boottime] about preload
by Daniele 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, some thoughts about preload: bug apart (#429732) i think we need something better/smarter; now, too many things are hardcoded. For example default kde them (Aya). If an user changes plasma theme this become completely useless/harmful. Again, from /etc/preload.d/kde: stat /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ksplashx- suse/1280x800/background.png stat /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ksplashx- suse/1280x800/stripe.png There's not 1280x800 directory here, only 1600x1200. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: bootchartd & process accounting
by Hans Petter Jansson 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 18:20 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 18:10 +0100, Hans Petter Jansson wrote: > > Do you think there's any point in enabling BSD process accounting for > > bootchartd? > I don't know, what are you trying to accomplish? The bootchartd docs say you get a more accurate graph that way - without BSD process accounting in the kernel, it can miss short-lived processes. I'm interested in seeing if we're spawning scads of processes anywhere. > > If so, what's my best option for getting such a kernel? If > > there's nothing prebuilt, how hard is it to build my own set of kernel > > RPMs? > Oh, sorry, I never build a SUSE kernel RPM myself. People at > kernel(a)suse.de should be able to help. Ok - I wasn't able to find anything about building custom kernel RPMs on the wiki. Maybe we can leverage the build service for this :) -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] bootchard & process accounting
by Hans Petter Jansson 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Hi Kay, Do you think there's any point in enabling BSD process accounting for bootchartd? If so, what's my best option for getting such a kernel? If there's nothing prebuilt, how hard is it to build my own set of kernel RPMs? -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Announcing the boot performance effort
by Hans Petter Jansson 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

We're currently working on a project to reduce boot time for openSUSE 11.1 and SLE 11. Everyone's welcome to participate with ideas and code. See the wiki page for more information. * Wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/Boottime/Boot_time * OBS: http://tinyurl.com/7q5ago * OSC: devel:playground:fastboot * List: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org I'll be sending out a weekly status report to this list. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How to set PAM language?
by Hans Petter Jansson 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

How do PAM modules determine which language to use for their messages? -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] linuxrc crash ?
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Hello, have any a idea ? on a Intel P43 Chpset Board Asus P5QL it is nor possible to start a SUSE Installation (11.0, 11.1) The starting stop after starting Udev .. ld.so "ld-open.c : 324 : RT_CONSISTENT failed" "linuxrc crashed :-((" in console 4 i can see a "init[1] general protection ip:7f586f91fd7a sp:7fff7862fb90 error:0 in libc-2.9.so-[7f586f8a7000+14f000]" Win... and other Linux have no problem to install ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Hardware Question (megaraid driver)
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Hello, have any a Board running like "Intel Server Board SE7520AF2" with Hardware SCSI Raid (megaraid) ? I have two Problems ? When I activate (Intel SROMBU42E) the SCSI RAID (1 x Raid 5, 1 x Raid 1) (/dev/sda, /devsdb), then I lost my drive's by the installation, /dev/sda /dev/sdb is after near 100 packages gon ? When I deactivate the Hardware Raid, the distribution is waiting near 3-4 Minutes by starting Udev ? OK, next step I install a other Disri to Test The Raid ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] java libraries packaging - integrate maven repository to zypper?
by Putrycz, Erik 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

I read http://en.opensuse.org/Java/Packaging/Cookbook and it states "the convient approach in Linux distribution is use of the system jars" for third party jars. I don't know if you are aware of the maven repository but packaging third party jars in rpm manually is currently a little redundant. The maven repository provides a lot of meta data including dependencies on java archive files and is kept quite up to date plus is mirrored. Wouldn't it make more sense to integrate somehow the maven repository to zipper and be able to retrieve dependencies from a java program from maven? Or another approach could be a gateway from maven to rpm. Erik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-kernel] Squashfs
by Rob OpenSuSE 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

2009/1/15 Jeff Mahoney <jeffm(a)suse.de>: > > Rob OpenSuSE wrote: >> 2009/1/15 Matt Sealey <matt(a)genesi-usa.com>: >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Rob OpenSuSE >>> <rob.opensuse.linux(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> There are end user benefits to mountable initrd's, and would have been >> a much better workround for one bug, than what I actually had to do. > > Actually you would have been just as stuck with squashfs. It's a > read-only file system. You can't loopback mount it and change it. In the > end, you end up having to do the same thing you'd have to do with cpio - > you just replace "zcat initrd | cpio -id" with "mount -o loop". If it's RO and you can't alter it, then there wouldn't seem to be any end user benefit apart from casual browsing, to overcome the "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Just developer benefit through supporting fewer formats. This is what led me to believe, SquashFS was permitting easier modification, I think I misunderstood that. 2009/1/14 Matt Sealey <matt(a)genesi-usa.com>: > >> What advantages do you know of? > > Appending files is a breeze compared to a cpio archive. Replacing the same > file in a cpio usually means dumping and remaking it. mksquashfs can get rid > of the original file and relink the new one at the end.. it would mean you > can do clever tricks like building half the initrd or filesystem image, > doing something else based on that result, and then appending further > processed data. Though mounting, copying to disk, and then re-building the formatted file, is more like making iso files. "zcat initrd | cpio -id" and then rebuilding, wasn't obvious enough to get suggested when I had an issue with replacing the driver with mkinintrd on a live system. It is still a nice to have, as udev generating it's own module list, to be combined with INITRD_MODULES, doesn't make the change methodology clear to the sysadmin. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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