April 2007 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
by Druid 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Find me one now after the MS deal, and find one about 10.2 release have a good day Marcio --- druid On 4/10/07, M Harris <harrismh777(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:27, Druid wrote: > > Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if > > there will be any > Well, lets see, just a quick poke through the Slashdot archives at random > finds enough suse press clues that even a lame druid can understand (if > trolls could read)... nope not a suse press release for decades.... > sheeeeesh. > > > SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Released > On July 17th, 2006 with 36 comments > MrHoolio writes "SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 has been officially released. This > long-awaited/anticipated release is a make-or-break release for Novell. It... > Linux » SuSE, Linux Business, Linux > > SUSE Linux Becomes openSUSE > On July 13th, 2006 with 55 comments > houghi writes "With the anouncement of the release of SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 > there is also an anouncement that SUSE Linux will be renamend to openSUSE. > A... > > SUSE Linux Enterprise 10, a Closer Look > On July 8th, 2006 with 273 comments > Tripperfish writes "Mad Penguin's Adam Doxtater has published an in-depth > review of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, Novell's alleged 'Vista Killer.' > From the... > > Novell Releases SUSE Linux Enterprise RC3 > On June 29th, 2006 with 38 comments > MrHoolio writes "Yesterday morning Novell publicly annouced the free > availability of release candidate 3 of the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 products. > Both the... > > > -- > Kind regards, > > M Harris <>< > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] error messages of the package manager stack considered harmful
by Cristian Rodriguez R. 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi folks: Errors and informative messages that comes from zypp/yast and related stuff are just ..well ..plain horrible..:-( In this mail I attempted to summarize the problems (although there are many more..and are easy to find) the main issue is this stuff is not user friendly and people gets confused... 1. zypper emits this messages when the connection to the server timeouts. Please insert media [sic] [ Curl error (huh ?) http://server... - I **do know** it uses Curl but..is the user supposed to be informed about that too? also I "cannot insert media" when the repository is an URI, wording is incorrect .. in that case I expect something like "cannot access installation source $URI..." ( nope, "metadata" ,"resolvable" or whatever geeky wording that requires to know what ) the low-level continues with... Error code : Unrecognized error --> oops, error not handled ;P Error message : connect() timed out --> What the &$&%/&%... who else than programmers know what connect() function call means ? <humor> maybe add to it , "if you dont known what connect() or CURL is, install the glibc-devel and curl-devel packages and RTFM" </humor> 2. probably the most infamous one is thrown when yast or other tools are accessign the zypp database... "A ZYpp transaction is already in progress." [.....] and then what x_X ? again, I do know what a "ZYpp transaction" is, but this one is very confuse, it does not tell the user what to do and why "is already in progress" also, Im not sure if the end user really needs to know what a ZYPP transaction is.. probably soemthing like "$SOFTWARENAME is already open and working with the package manager database...[more..] "... 3. zypper is too silent and combined with the slowness it gaves the impression to the user as it were hanging, unfortunately it lacks of some progress dialog and the -v is too verbose.. :-( 4. Some of the "Y" and "N" dialogs are awfully broken, in problem number 1 , there is a final "retry" dialog that appears.. press Y .. it does nothing :) also if you press no..other low-level I/O error messages appear... in other situations if you type other data rather than "Y" or "N" it does not recover and hangs foreva... 5. In Yast, when a package is locked and there is a conflict a popup dialog appears telling me in one of its options "unlock all resolvables".. geeky wording again :) shouldnt it say "unlock all needed packages" or something adecuate to a graphical UI designed to be used for people that does not have a **single clue** how Zypp/yast/whatever works internally ? 6. Stuff in zypp the throws exceptions : We all know this is useful for debugging.. but why show it to users ? why not a simple dialog: "An error ocurred : (short **clear** message) \n Error details has been written to **/unique/filename/of/the/errormessages-backtrace.txt please open a bug report attaching this file to the report.+(an accept dialog where applicable)". In general, everytime you see the errors messages, think " does the user will need to visit the wiki or read some manual to understand this ? " if the answer is yes, then the error message is bad.;-) There are **many** other examples, this mail only attempts to raise awareness of this general problem. Just my $2 chilean pesos. Cristian. ps: I already filled bug reports about some of this issues but no sign of activity till today.

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[opensuse-factory] GNOME Updater applet
by Alberto Passalacqua 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hello, I've just seen the design of the new updater applet for GNOME, and I really appreciate it (still have to try ;-)) I have one suggestion about the icons however. I'd replace the opensuseupdater icons currently used also for the GNOME applet with the tango icons used by zen-updater, which better integrates in the look of GNOME. What do you think? With kind regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 2 no DVD-device
by Ralf Prengel 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hallo, the Alpha 2 is working fine here but I ve no DVD-device any longer. Normally, under 10.2, it s device hda because my harddisk are SATA and there is only one IDE-controller in the system. Any hints? Thanks Ralf Prengel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] insserv: There is a loop between service cupsd and smbfs
by Felix Miata 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

I sent this to the list last Thursday, but never got it back, nor a reply. :-( This message keeps popping up at shell prompt when running various commands unrelated to either cups or smbfs. What does it mean, and how do I make it go away? -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Alpha 2 no bluetooth mouse
by Ralf Prengel 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

I m using a bluetooth keybord and a bluetooth mouse. The mouse can not be connected to the system and isn t detected by any tool. The mouse is working under Windows without any problems. Thanks Ralf Prengel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Aplications based in wxgtk do'nt work
by Juan Erbes 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

With the last change from wxgtk 2.6 to 2.8, the aplications based in wxgtk do'nt work. In the package wxGTK-compat-2.8.1.1-8.i586.rpm, they are any symlink for wxgtk 2.6 pointing to wxgtk 2.8. Regards --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] GUI frontends for dvd+rw-tools
by Terje J. Hanssen 07 Apr '07

07 Apr '07

I'm curious to know if the GUI frontends k3b, Nautilus CD/DVD-burner and/or possibly Xcdroast now works as GUI frontends for dwd+rw-tools burning also Blu-ray disks? Refere to the previous thread about this subject http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00847.html Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Smart is really Dumb
by Felix Miata 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

Rug didn't want to update my factory install because zmd wasn't running. So I tried smart update; smart upgrade. When I started I had 40% free. Smart knocked that down to 6% in the process of achieving a 100% downloaded status on a list of 700+ packages, then terminated with a very long list of error installing package messages due to lack of sufficient space on / filesystem. -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ERROR: The ZENworks Management Daemon is not running
by Felix Miata 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

That results in Factory install from last week from attempting: # rug ref YaST System Services doesn't appear to have any such service to enable. # zend bash zend: command not found # ZENworks bash zend: command not found What's the secret to getting rug to function? Is rug not the simplest way to get Factory updated? Is there another nice easy command line way to update Factory, like urpmi --auto-update in Mandriva? -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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