November 2007 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Looking outside the box
by Andreas Jaeger 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

I've just send out to people that report to me the following request and like to share it with you so that you know what's going on if you see discussions starting and can look at the webpage as well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ openSUSE 10.3 is a really great release and I'd like to thank you for your participation on it. To take a break and some inspiration I'd like you to take some time now (let's say two days) and look at other current distributions and operating systems and check what they can do better, or how could we improve our products. Looking at operating systems, I consider the following most interesting but feel free to look at others as well: * Fedora 8 Test 3 * Ubuntu/Kubuntu 7.10 Beta * Mandriva 2008 * PCLinuxOS * Windows Vista * Mac OSX I suggest to install at least one of these products on real hardware and evaluate the distribution and try to get ideas for our next product. * Look at the installation, what do you like and hate? * Check the area you're most familiar in, e.g. printing, and see how it's integrated, e.g. configure a printer and print some documents. What is different compared to openSUSE 10.3? Where is the user experience different? * Use the machine for some work, play around with it. How do you like it? Please write down your experience on the openSUSE wiki at http://en.opensuse.org/Distro_Inspirations - and if you see things that you like to discuss, discuss them on the opensuse-factory mailing list. Try to evaluate the distribution from a desktop user perspective - and if you want to evaluate it differentely, please state it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
by Sid Boyce 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/opensuse10.3.review.html Mentions of "for the uninitiated" sounds about right. To sidestep any problems with the DVD, I've installed from Factory. Looks like the DVD should have been delayed until it was compared with Factory for stability. I think the reviewer attempted to be fair (he points to the URL to show where he is coming from). Perhaps some pertinent pointers for 11.0. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] pulseaudio and 11.0
by Rodrigo Moya 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi We (opensuse-gnome team) have been working in the last few days to integrate PulseAudio for 11.0: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.0/PulseAudio it is in a state where it mainly works on GNOME, so talked to Takashi (maintainer of the pulseaudio packages in multimedia:audio) and he is going to assign the packages in the PDB (internal package database) to me. So, first, I would like people to test the packages we've built, and second, what needs to be done to put this into the distro for 11.0? Are KDE people aware and happy of the change? Other packages that would need work on them? Anything else that should be taken into account? -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] new UI in yast2-printer
by Michal Zugec 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi people, I'd like to announce improved (I hope ;-)) UI in yast2-printer module. You probably know old interface. Many options was accessible via several clicks and for new users some of them wasn't easy to understand. I wrote some screenshots here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Printer and now is mostly implemented in yast2-printer version >= 2.16.4 So this mail is a "call for testing", but also your comments or other kind of feedback is important for me. When you check rpm from factory does it work for you with all functionality? Do you like this UI or would you like to change something? Bye, Michal -- Best Regards, Michal Zugec Software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: mzugec(a)suse.cz Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 296 542 374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
by Andreas Vetter 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

Hi, rkhunter has a new release 1.3.0 hosted on sourceforge: http://rkhunter.sourceforge.net In factory we have rkhunter-1.2.9-12.44.noarch.rpm (according to software.opensuse.org/search) Can we have the newer version please. The old rkhunter is does not know about openSUSE 10.3 (10.2 and probably more). -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE Factory update (gcc 4.3)
by Adrian Schröter 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Hi, the openSUSE:Factory distro got an update and does use gcc 4.3 from now on as default compiler. This may have some effect when compiling your stuff inside or outside of the build service. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian(a)suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dist Meeting at SUSE
by Stephan Kulow 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Hi! Last thursday we had a dist meeting to discuss policy changes for our distributions that affect a lot of teams. So these are the minutes, if you have questions, feel free to ask - this is just me typing. Greetings, Stephan Present: jpr, holgi, matz, cfarrel, mls, kukuk, hvogel, meissner, radmanic, ro, coolo, adrian, nadvornik, jsrain, gekker Patchrpms considered harmful no consistency checkin, so created problems in the past update stack can not check the integrity (by design) delta rpms are better anyway, just little bigger in cases new patches for old or only new products? too dangerous to disable Marcus decided: go for >= 10.3 and disable patch rpms Stricter checks for updates texlive update removed some manual pages some files were not marked as %noverify, which are changed by %post delta packages could not be applied, creating a 200MB update suggested policy: %post call in package build and rpm -Va output fails package Conclusion: rpm -V output is a critical bug (TODO: at least 257 packages in Factory affected) Sync build service with factory e.g. gnome team wants to maintain packages in build service time left out to discuss this Conclusion between those left in the room: GNOME team should go ahead, but should be aware that whoever submits a package to autobuild is responsible for reviewing the changes, no matter where they come from. Tools support earliest in spring 2008 according to build service road map -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 47
by Stephan Kulow 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Hi! The status report of openSUSE distribution * Our update handling is still kind of messy (too many updates, too few testing). GNOME update for bug-buddy can't be installed at all, on friday KDE updater killed itself on a boost update. Both issues are tracked, but cause a lot of work * Factory is kind of working, installing it has some regresions due to new kernel * new live CDs are shaping up, currently waiting for the update repositories to be in shape again before the next step Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] online updater trying to update not installed packages
by Gabriel . 20 Nov '07

20 Nov '07

The online updater tool (not opensuse-updater) says that I have to update a lot of packages that I'm 100% sure, they are not installed. Is this a know issue? -- Kind Regards Visitá/Go to >> http://www.opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] YaST2 SSHD Module - Call for help/volunteers
by Lukas Ocilka 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Hi, As you probably know, we've added a new yast2-sshd package that configures the sshd daemon to the openSUSE 10.3. http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=yast2-sshd&distro=… This module was started as an exemplary YaST module for YaST tutorial http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SL10.3/tutorials/t1.html Now it seems the the openSUSE community would like to have it extended. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333655 ...but isn't that the best way for the community to learn more about YaST, about the powerful features we currently offer? Isn't that great that to community already has all pieces to change YaST to do what they exactly want? That's why I'm writing this mail. I'd like to encourage $you, even if you aren't an experienced developer, don't you want to learn more, don't you want to try it? This is the current SVN of YaST SSHD module: http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/sshd/ So, please, just try that..., send me a patch..., whatever ;) Thanks & Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o., Lihovarska 1060/12, Praha 9, Czech Republic

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