February 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta4 is delayed...
by Andreas Jaeger 17 Feb '06

17 Feb '06

FYI: We have found some showstoppers and need some more time to fix them, so Beta4 is at least a day late... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re[2]: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded
by s.schmidt＠avm.de 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

We are pleased to note that the GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL fix has been withdrawn. This is particularly important for customers who have been relying on good driver coverage for ISDN/DSL devices with SUSE distributions over the past few years. However, as we understand the ongoing discussion, a number of people are tending towards a position of enforcement of USB GPL drivers only. We would like to take this opportunity to clarify where we see the differences between AVM and other devices and the difficulties regarding a possible move towards user mode. The user space does not ensure the reliability of time critical analog services like Fax G3 or analog modem emulations. This quality of service can only be guaranteed within the kernel space. Let me explain that issue using the FaxG3-service as an example. Fax G3 (T.30) is not specified as a data protocol with error-free transmission. Let us assume, there is a system peak demand on the host system, while a fax is incoming, e.g. because of a parallel access of a higher prioritized process. Handled in user mode, the user gets broken or fragmented faxes as a result. Same for the communication with analogue remote stations (modems) over a digital net (ISDN). You cannot speak about reliable quality of service anymore. Only the kernel offers low latency and timeline processing which is required for soft DSP alike processing. This should be OS independent and from our point of view, Linux should not be inferior to any other OS. Of course, other OS also have the concept of shifting usb drivers to user space, but time critical demands are explicitly excluded. The given examples gPhoto und rio500 at http://libusb.sourceforge.net/doc/examples-other.html operate mostly unidirectionally. Isochronical services within the libusb, especially the USB driver framework for the user mode are not ready for bidirectional operation. Even though the current libusb development started integrating the isochronous transfer support, it still is under construction and it is unclear if this task can be accomplished at all (see statement from Johannes Erdfelt at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9531397&forum_id=5425 ). In contrast, AVM's driver concept is established for many years now. So the user mode does not seem to be an alternative for ISDN/DSL communication devices at the moment. Moreover, a rework of more than 30 devices would consume a lot of development resources. You will hardly find a similiar company situation. We are not talking about a 10 to 20kByte mouse driver, but rather >600kByte of complex work per device. Take a look at the FRITZ!Card PCI package atftp://ftp.avm.de/cardware/fritzcrd.pci/linux/suse.93/fcpci-suse93-3.11-07.tar.gz). As a private corporation our primary focus is market relevance. AVM invested more than 10 years of work to make analog services like Fax G3 and analog modem emulation available to users of the digital ISDN network. The situation is similar for the DSL part of the driver with very complex DSP algorithms. To anticipate any "open vs. closed source" discussion:Only a handful of companies worldwide have such know-how. With regard to our competitive situation, we have to protect our hard-won intellectual property and therefore cannot open the closed source part of the driver. Kind Regards Sven Schmidt AVM Audiovisuelles Marketing und Computersysteme GmbH Alt-Moabit 95, 10559 Berlin, Germany http://www.avm.de Greg KH <greg(a)kroah.com> An 05.02.2006 21:53 s.schmidt(a)avm.de Kopie linux-kernel(a)vger.kernel.org, opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org, kkeil(a)suse.de Thema Re: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:24:10PM +0100, s.schmidt(a)avm.de wrote: > on January 15th / major change in USB subsystem and GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL > declaration > Greg Kroah-Hartman added a Patch to kernel 2.6.15-git12, which > substantially changed the USB system. Have you asked Greg why he did this? Have you asked what the other alternatives are? You do know about usbfs/libusb that allows you to write USB drivers in userspace that can go at the full speed of the USB bus? Why not redo your code to take advantage of this? If you do that, the extra bonus is that your drivers will also work on the BSDs and possibly Windows with no changes needed (I think libusb works on Windows...) > This mail is not intended to provoke a discussion of open vs closed source. > The only intention of this mail is to make you aware of the consequences of > such a decision. I was not aware of your drivers, but now that you have informed me of them, I am willing to work with you to figure out how to resolve this issue. thanks, greg k-h

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ivtv driver for Hauppauge PVR TV-cards missing in 10.1b3
by Markus Koßmann 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

Just noticed, that there is no ivtv driver coming with 10.1b3. Will this be changed in the final release ?

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translate xine
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 15 Feb '06

15 Feb '06

Hello, I wanted to translate xine again, there am however a dependence on mad. One needs this file or is it a relict ? I can't find the packet mad ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Re: AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered
by L T Pensch 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Carl-Daniel wrote: > Of the proprietary drivers, all USB drivers could be migrated > to userspace with libusb as Greg Kroah-Hartman suggested. This > would allow to keep them proprietary yet keep them out of the > kernel. Problem solved for them. Are you sure? Greg does not know these devices and their drivers, his statement may be based on some stable knowledge of successful transition projects from kernel to user space *for some other de- vices* but simply taking this as a base to judge upon these ISDN and DSL device is not reasonable. Do you know for sure that libusb performance meets the strict requirements imposed by some of the protocols involved? As far as I understand this game, you will run into problems when trying to implement the required timing and reduce lethal latencies *in user space* for these drivers. How many context/task transactions are acceptible for such a monster while doing 6MB/s DSL from kernel to userspace back to kernel and so forth? Let's face it... Go to eBay, sell your device to some Windows guys, if ever, it will take a long time before you can use your hardware on Linux again. :-( Regards, Lysander Pensch

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ZENWorks Software Installer
by Marcel Hilzinger 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hi, is it supposed to work in Beta3? If yes, where can I find a small howto? Marcel

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10.1 Beta 3 - Quanta monitor drivers missing
by David Wright 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

I just tried to install Beta 3 on my laptop (Acer Extensa 4100, also known as Travelmate I believe). It requires the Quanta driver for the display (1280x800 LCD), the default LCD values for a 1280x800@60/75Hz don't work - I just get a black screen. I'm currently working through other general settings under Vesa and LCD, but until now I haven't found a single monitor setting which will display anything... Can we please have the Quanta settings back? Dave

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10.1 upgrade alert - wallpapers
by Martin Schulz 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

just wanted to pass on my opinion about the move to take the wallpapers out of the /opt/kde3/share tree and put them into /usr/share. While overall not a bad idea to consolidate the wallpapers, it breaks the user's background config without warning. What's wrong with a simple symbolic link to fix that? Similarly, I had the SuSE93 kdm theme configured, which has disappeared. What's wrong with a package to wrap the backwards compatible bootsplash, kdm themes and defunct wallpapers, and make it such that the user need not break his thumb to get them configured as they were. I understand the idea of 'branding' etc., but personally it annoys me quite a bit. By the way, this is not meant to put down the newest theme, keep up the good work. Thanks! Martin

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KDE_USE_IPV6="yes"
by Marcel Hilzinger 12 Feb '06

12 Feb '06

Could somebody please check, wheter /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager in beta3 still contains this entry. It makes Konqueror on some machines very! slow on 9.X and 10.0. Thanks. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99

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SCSI Workaround
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 12 Feb '06

12 Feb '06

Hello, Know any a Workaround, to install SL10.1 Beta3 on a SCSI system with adaptec aic7890/91 Ultra 2 SCSI, is possible ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Xgl and Compiz
by Liviu Damian 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Hi, I want to try the new Xgl features on my computer. I installed Xgl, modified the config files as in en.opensuse.org/Xgl but I can't find compiz. Where is it? Cheers, -- Liviu Damian Phone: +40741226993 Blog: http://liviudm.blogspot.com

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FTP installation of factory
by Frank-Michael Fischer 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Does anyone have an idea, why my installation of the opensuse-factory via FTP fails both ways, when going via internet or from my local rsync mirror? When going local FTP, installation complains there are no packages groups available after choosing Gnome or KDE. When going internet the installation just hangs at "Software Auswahl" without complaining. FMF

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Kerry Beagle Search Feedback
by Stephan Binner 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Hello, if you have installed KDE with one of the Betas you may have noticed that there is a KDE frontend for Beagle installed by default. If not, it's the small magnifier in the system tray, keyboard shortcuts Alt+Space oder F12. I would love to see more feedback than as yet how it works for you. The current version 0.06 is in Factory repository and of course on Beta 4. To see if a fault is in the Beagle backend(s) or the frontend you can compare results with the output of console beagle-query or beagle-search (Gtk+). Thanks in advance for hopefully few bug-reports. :-) Bye, Steve

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Package Manager major changes for Beta4 and FACTORY Tree
by Andreas Jaeger 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

We're replacing our package manager resolver library with a new version called "libzypp". This integration is more complex than estimated and therefore we decided: * to have beta4 available a day later than planned * to have an additional beta5 next week * the package manager in beta4 will only have reduced functionality We're still working on the integration of "libzypp" into our tree and hope to have both update and new installation working. Together with libzypp, we get the zmd daemon, the rug command line interface, the zen-updater, zen-remover, zen-installer packages. They all handle YUM sources and additionally Zenworks servers as installation sources. Note that I'm not sure whether YaST sources will still be supported - or only YUM sources. I'll try to figure this out now. IMPORTANT: The current factory tree contains the first of these changes and I advise to not update the yast components from it! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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RE: [opensuse-factory] no non-GPL kernel modules any more :-(
by Robison, Jonathon (M.) 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

It's my understanding, from yesterday's meeting, that some things will continue to be offered at the "online update" stage. This atheros wlan driver may well be one of them, just like the ipw2100 drivers for me. Jonathon M. Robison Infrastructure Architect ET, ITI 313-323-9529 -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Vetter [mailto:vetter@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:18 PM To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Subject: [opensuse-factory] no non-GPL kernel modules any more :-( How is this with the non-gpl kernel modules? Novell/SUSE will no longer provide them. So what is a user supposed to do, when he needs e.g. atheros wlan driver? Is there a howto for making a xxx-kmp.rpm? I still don't understand, what these xxx-kmp.rpms are good for. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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missing programs
by Chema Ollés 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: I can't find xgettext or gtk2-perl for beta... Any idea? regards - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.15-git12-6-smp #1 SMP Tue Jan 17 14:22:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD6Ln665SpD7GhbzoRAgIoAKDCfanrIHW2JvzMOFE82tPcrBySQACfbMLy zyMSa2Jz+CZLplXjIxDiK3E= =dmFK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Package Manager major changes for Beta4 and FACTORY Tree
by Andreas Jaeger 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Klaus Kaempf <kkaempf(a)suse.de> writes: > * Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> [Feb 07. 2006 20:51]: >> >> Note that I'm not sure whether YaST sources will still be supported - >> or only YUM sources. I'll try to figure this out now. > I guess Klaus is not on the list, so the rest did not see this reply: > YaST source will be supported. It is the default format on CD/DVD. So, current setup should continue to work, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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no non-GPL kernel modules any more :-(
by Andreas Vetter 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

How is this with the non-gpl kernel modules? Novell/SUSE will no longer provide them. So what is a user supposed to do, when he needs e.g. atheros wlan driver? Is there a howto for making a xxx-kmp.rpm? I still don't understand, what these xxx-kmp.rpms are good for.

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Fonts: "fc-cache -f"
by Silviu Marin-Caea 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

I have installed fontconfig-2.3.93.20060131-1. However, I have noticed that SuSEconfig gives this warning. It doesn't go away after running fc-cache -f. I don't know if it's a known bug. Creating cache files for Xft .FC: dircache for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is invalid or outdated, consider running "fc-cache -f" as root! FC: dircache for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is invalid or outdated, consider running "fc-cache -f" as root! FC: dircache for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is invalid or outdated, consider running "fc-cache -f" as root!

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Major bug in Beta3: Fontconfig
by Andreas Jaeger 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

It might be that X11 apps just crash, which is a bug in fontconfig. A first fix in the fixed-rpm package on ftp.opensuse.org. The current packages are on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/10.1 - use both fontconfig and fonts-config. The packages in m17n are updated as soon are bugs fixed - and contain also additional optimizations. Please report bugs against them in bugzilla and help us getting fontconfig fast and usable! thanks for testing - and thanks to the fontconfig gurus for fixing! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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subfs dropped in 10.1 Beta 2
by houghi 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hello all, During the IRC meeting from 2006-01-24 it was announced that subfs has been dropped. IRC log and minutes can be found at http://www.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting and the timestap for the subfs issue begins at 19:47 >From the minutes: - subfs has been dropped and will be replaced by hal plus gnome-volume-manager (under GNOME) and some binary for KDE. non-KDE and non-GNOME users have to mount manually. They cant even put a line into /etc/fstab, so that a user can mount it. There was a consens that this is unacceptable. Action Item houghi: - start discussion about subfs replacement in non KDE/GNOME systems on opensuse-factory Questions that arise: - Should this be accepted or should it be delayed till a complete solution is given? - As the question came from an FAQ about having subfs disables, is there perhaps a better solution for everybody. Easy disableling subfs for those who want it and enabled for those who want that. - What are the implications of reversing the decision? What are the implications of going on as it is? Any other solutions or comments are welcome as well. Also bear in mind that some people might login over ssh and do not even have a windowmanager. houghi -- Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy.

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syslog-ng -> firewall
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hello, is this a known Problem, syslog-ng don't split the firewall Log in a single File ? In /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf it is separate Entry for Firewall ?? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer

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RAID1 problems in Beta3
by Liviu Damian 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hi, Yesterday I tried to install Beta3 on a system having a software RAID1 and LVM. LVM works fine, RAID1 doesn't :-( I was upgrading a 10.0 system. I made a DVD from the 5CDs and I began to install it. Everything was fine. RAID was recognized, LVM also, no problem with upgrading from 10.0 to 10.1 Beta3, only a manual intervention for packages from community repositories (something normal). At the first reboot, unfortunately I got these: md: md0 stopped /init: line 479: 736 segmentation fault /sbin/mdadm -- assemble --scan $mdconf rootfs: major=9 minor=0 devn=2304 /dev/md0: unknown volume type /init: line 512: =: command not found Mounting root /dev/md0 mount: unknown filesystem type '' umount: /dev: device is busy umount: /dev: device is busy Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemted to kill init! After this, I tried to make a clean install. I formated the raid and install it again, again with no problems. At the first reboot, the same problem (the first reboot means before you set the root password, user accounts, networking, etc). Is this a known problem or should I report it to bugzilla? Cheers, -- Liviu Damian Phone: +40741226993 Blog: http://liviudm.blogspot.com

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10.1 and dmraid
by Markus Koßmann 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Is 10.1 intended to have dmraid support during installation ?

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Can I have two installation sources during installation?
by Andreas Vetter 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Can I have two installation sources during installation? E.g. inst-source and inst-source-extra, or CD and Packman -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg

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Confusing wording for network setup method
by Silviu Marin-Caea 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

During installation, at network setup, there's the Use traditional method (Enable) and Use Network Manager (Enable) I find it terribly confusing with the "enable" thing. I always have to stop and think what does it mean and what will it do. I suggest a more specific link instead of just "enable". Like this: Now using traditional method (Enable Network Manager) and Now using Network Manager (Enable traditional method) Will add to bugzilla

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Re: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded
by Andreas Klein 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Hi, this also affects the smartlink-modem: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144600 On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:24:10PM +0100, s.schmidt(a)avm.de wrote: > > on January 15th / major change in USB subsystem and GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL > > declaration > > Greg Kroah-Hartman added a Patch to kernel 2.6.15-git12, which > > substantially changed the USB system. > > Have you asked Greg why he did this? > > Have you asked what the other alternatives are? > > You do know about usbfs/libusb that allows you to write USB drivers in > userspace that can go at the full speed of the USB bus? Why not redo > your code to take advantage of this? If you do that, the extra bonus is > that your drivers will also work on the BSDs and possibly Windows with > no changes needed (I think libusb works on Windows...) > > > This mail is not intended to provoke a discussion of open vs closed source. > > The only intention of this mail is to make you aware of the consequences of > > such a decision. > > I was not aware of your drivers, but now that you have informed me of > them, I am willing to work with you to figure out how to resolve this > issue. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > -- Andreas Klein Andreas.C.Klein(a)physik.uni-wuerzburg.de

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NLD 10 presentation videos
by Jens Siebert 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Hi there, osnews.com has a news article on a presentation of the next Novell Linux Desktop with some videos which present the new features of the GNOME desktop used in NLD (http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/55). According to the current Novell Linux roadmap, Suse Linux 10.1 will be the basis for NLD 10 so the question is if we will see such features in one of the next Suse Linux versions too? Greetings Jens Siebert

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10.1 beta3 - a couple of initial observations
by Per Jessen 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

I'm installing to a machine with one IDE-drive with the following partitioning: /dev/hda1 - formatted for jfs, meant for /boot /dev/hda2 - swap /dev/hda3 - formatted for jfs, meant for / /dev/hda4 - exiting jfs for with existing /home The initial partioning proposal ignores /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3, not unexpectedly, and proposes a setup that uses hda4 as an extended partition with hda5 and hda6. I delete hda5 and hda6, then attempt to edit hda4 in order to have it mounted at /home. The dialogue only allows me to change the cylinder boundaries of hda4. Also, when I hit "cancel" on this dialogue, it still warns me that I have changed the boundaries etc. ... - though I clearly haven't. To be able to instruct the installation to mount hda4 on /home, I had to reload the partition-table. I don't know if this is intended behaviour. Boot loader: The initial proposal for a GRUB setup contains an entry for a XEN kernel, whereas the proposal for a LILO setup does not. I haven't played with XEN at all, so I don't know if it's meant to be in the boot-menu or not. Installation summary (or whatever it is called): It's the screen with the main items listed: System, Bootloader, Software, Default runlevel etc. It seems to be lacking keyboard-shortcuts for the tabs "Overview" and "Expert". /Per Jessen, Zürich

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Firefox plugins: where are they now, in 10.1beta3?
by Silviu Marin-Caea 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

Before 10.1 the firefox plugins were symlinks in the firefox/plugins directory. Now, in that directory (/usr/lib/firefox/plugins) there is only the null plugin. Yet, about:plugins shows flash, acrobat, java. How are they located now, in 10.1? I ask because I have a problem with not displaying PDFs from firefox in beta3. In about:plugins there's dragon egg and acrobat reader. But I still don't get any .pdf displayed in browser. I'd like to remove dragon egg/acrobat and see what happens. In any case, it's still a bug.

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missing packages
by Hans-Peter Jansen 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

Hi, I'm missing certain packages in beta3, is that intentional? At the moment, it's - cyrus-imapd - gkrellm - eric3 - ksteak Hopefully, they will find there way into final, or should I be worried? Pete

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Can't Install SUSE 10.1_b3 on Vmware (host OS is SUSE 10.0)
by James PEARSON 04 Feb '06

04 Feb '06

Hello all I have tried to install SUSE 10.1 b3 three times under Vmware (VmwareWorkstation-5.5.1-19175) but the install process always gets stuck at the last second to last screen : “Hardware Configuration / Use the following configuration / Analyzing your system”. Regardless of the length of time I leave the install process running, things have just ground to a halt – there's 0 CPU activity :( I posted a photo at “http://perso.wanadoo.fr/j.pearson/Can't_Install_10.1_b3.png” Vmware runs fine on my system. SUSE 10.1_b2 (and other OS) installed and ran fine. For info host OS : SUSE 10 (Linux linux 2.6.13-15.7-smp #1 SMP Tue Nov 29 14:32:29 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux). What exactly has changed between SUSE 10.1_b2 and SUSE 10.1_b3 which could explain this? Any help or comments would be appreciated. TIA James

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installation hangs after partition selection
by Glenn Holmer 04 Feb '06

04 Feb '06

I've been unable to install either beta 2 or beta 3 (on several machines) because the installer hangs after I select partitions. There have been no comments on the issue page, and I raised it to blocker/P2 after beta 3. Does this relate to other known issues? I'm thinking it may have to do with XFS... https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146060 -- ====================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ====================================================== "Greater coherence cannot be achieved. Not even the Netherlanders have managed this." -Anton Webern ======================================================

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Reiser4 dropped?
by Marcel Hilzinger 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

According to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=140935 reiser4 has been dropped for 10.1. I can understand, that you drop unmaintained code from the kernel, but I can not understand, why you drop new features. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99

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Default fond in Konsole
by Silviu Marin-Caea 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

I find it too thin and difficult to read. What's your opinion? Would it be better if the font were bold by default? I have a 17" LCD 1280x1024

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Virtual beta testing
by Volker Kuhlmann 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

Suppose one has access to a computer resonably well endowed in the CPU and disk departments, running SUSE 10.0. By far most of the beta testing could be done inside something like vmware. However, vmware is out of rea$$ of the average home user. What are the options? Xen, qemu, seperate disk partition to install into, ...? Can someone who has played with Xen, qemu, etc give a quick rundown for this purpose? Given a limited bandwidth which would make it at least 2 days to download all the selected packages, the above ability of doing this in some container running on a standard desktop box in the background would be a prerequisite. This would save having to download all the CDs in advance (and therefore a lot of unused volume). Is it possible to burn the downloaded used packages to DVD to test a non-virtual installation as well? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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missing packages in inst-source(-extra)
by Andreas Vetter 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

ant-commons-logging-1.6.5-4, libmpeg2-0.4.0b-25, rsvg-sharp2-2.8.0-7 is on CDs, but not in inst-source(-extra) from factory. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg

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factory = beta3?
by Peter Czanik 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

Hello, Just a quick question, before messing up my system: is factory now equal to beta3, or it's already in a different stage? Bye, -- CzP http://peter.czanik.hu/

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ncurses
by Ulrich Windl 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

Hi, I just had read reports on the brokenness of ncurses in SuSE Linux 9.3. Looking it up for 10.0, I found that the ncurses library is 5.4 while 5.5 seems current. I wanted to look it up for 10.1beta, but couldn't find how to find out the included versions from the opensuse.org website. Thomas E. Dickey stated the latest patches are on ftp://invisible- island.net/ncurses/5.5/ Regards, Ulrich

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Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Codename "Agama Lizard" Beta3 is Ready
by Ulrich Windl 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

On 2 Feb 2006 at 16:30, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > SUSE Linux 10.1 Codename "Agama Lizard" Beta2 is ready for testing. SUSE Linux 10.1 Codename "Agama Lizard" _Beta3_ is ready for testing. (most likely) > > Please report all bugs in bugzilla following http://bugs.opensuse.org > > A list of known issues is on: > http://www.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs > > Let me just point out the following issue: > > * We still have issues with fontconfig, an updated RPM is available > from: > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-OSS-beta3/fixed-rpms/ [...] Ulrich

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kde and automount devices(on beta1)
by Chema Ollés 02 Feb '06

02 Feb '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: - From an olds alphas to my actual beta1 (I will update to beta4 directly) I see that when I connect an usb device like disk,camera,ipod... kde system always auto mount this on /media/cdrecorder dir and I don't see where can I change this... Any help about this? Thanks and regards - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.15-git12-6-smp #1 SMP Tue Jan 17 14:22:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD4dR765SpD7GhbzoRAg2FAKCLsx/BexNuQMhg5oTWd49+2CqxBwCgvhPF ju1GjGc8lZKuvYSa7mgSDA8= =+y3m -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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