November 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
by Marcel Hilzinger 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/ Why? With the current solution, each time you launch the installation source module metadata is fetched. Most of us probably never need this metadata to add a new source. I even doubt, that the module itsef needs this data. If you start the Package Manager after the installation source module, the same data is fetched again. So Suse does 2x the work, which would be needed actually to perform an installation from a new source. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
by Marcel Hilzinger 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [First try] Installing openSUSE 10.2 RC1 on a T60 Thinkpad
by James PEARSON 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Hello all, It's the weekend, I have some space time and I want openSUSE 10.2 to work on my T60 Thinkpad (Model 1952 W5R) so I installed openSUSE 10.2 RC1 on it. Note 1: My T60 has a Intel Centrino Duo 1.83 cpu with 2 Go of RAM and a Mobile Intel 945GM Express video chipset. Note 2: openSUSE10.1 installs and works perfectly (even the Fn buttons - which I don't use). # The following is my report I ran the installation using the 5 CDs plus the Addon-BiArch CD. The IBM usbmouse was not recognized so the installation had to be performed using the trackpad. This was a bit touchy as the trackpad was overly sensitive and just moving it over a hypertest link would sometimes select it by accident. I tested all the CDs in the CD test window. I ran a new Installation (over a working 10.1 setup) I included the Addon-Bi Arch CD using the add-on "Products from Separate media" option. I had problems selecting the "Clock and Time Zone" using the track pad The Thinkpad trackpad was very sensitive (overly) here - just moving the cursor over a hyperlink text would activate it. I had a very hard time selecting my time zone and moving to the NEXT button without loosing my settings. I found it easier to do this particular operation using the tab button (which is what I did in the end). I did a "kde" installation (as per usual) I added gcc, kernel, java... (I forgot to add smart!) The rpm installation started at 14:46 The rpm installation started at 15:19 When the rpm installation finished, I was in the Package Installion window (section Perform Installation), the "Synchronizing with ZENworks" automatically came up at and started. This started at 15:20 It was stilling happening at 15:44, so I hit the "abort" button - more than once... (even tried Alt-R key for Abort) - I seemed stuck... I finally hit TAB a few times and I noticed a window "Error Your service was added successfully in YaST but could not be synchronized with Zenworks. Command timed out after 800 milliseconds. hit the OK button, another Error window: "Error Cannot write settings to 'ZMD' Managed to continue to the "Root Password Configuration" window Under network mode, selected "User-controlled interfaces with Network manager" Download of latest release notes failed YaST2 had set up the wrong IP address The setup configured an IP in the 169.x.x.x.range I need to be in the 192.x.x.x range Went back to the "Network Configuration "window and disabled Network manager, I moved forward and ran the "Internet Connection Test" Network connection tested ok Under "Novell Customer Center Configuration" window, I selected the "Configure Now" button, and got an error window "Error An error occurred while connecting to the sever Under Details, I saw "Cannot open the file /etc/zmd/deviceid: No such file or directory" I selected "Configure Later" in order to get on with the installation In the next window (e.g the "Novell Customer Center Configuration" window), I had the choice to add these "Additional Installations Sources": inst-source (which was already selected) inst-source-extra inst-source-debug I left the default setting and hit OK - no problem so I hit the back button, and the other two sources added (inst-source-extra and inst-source-debug) Note: the d/l speed on my side is limited to 1024 kb/sec. The time was 16:04 at 16:14, YaST asked me to insert CD1. at 16:22, the "Creating source window" and clock were still working away. at 16:43 the "Creating source window" and clock were still working away. so I hit the "Back" button. A minute later, I hit the "Next" button. Idem for the "TAB" in order to check for error messages in other windows. Nothing One minute later I got a new window "Cannot access installation media CD1" Check that the server is accessible " I selected show details "Curl error for: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSSfactor.." "Error code: Timeout reached Error message: Callback aborted" I hit abort I saw "Can't provide /suse/setup/descr/packages.cs from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source" I selected abort I selected abort abort again I selected abort Don't try again I got a "Probing source..." window followed by another "Creating source.. " window I hit "NEXT" and got more "http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-Facto" windows. Was I looping here??? I hit "NEXT", "BACK" and finally "ctrl-alt-delete", I still had a "http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-Facto" window. I am stuck. The time is now 16:55 I guess I am going to give up on this one and skip the "Creating extra sources.. " next time. While writing this I got this window again a new window "Cannot access installation media CD1" Check that the server is accessible " I selected show details "Curl error for: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSSfactor.." "Error code: Timeout reached Error message: Callback aborted" I hit abort. Abort again, Don't try again - and back we go again and I get another "Probing sources...." window. voilà et voilà. Stay tuned for the second try! Regards James --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?
by Marcel Hilzinger 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

When adding a new installation source in YaST, I see only the following points: CD DVD Lokales Verzeichnis Package Directory URL angeben However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS. Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet sources, if you start the module without internet connection. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 10.2 RC1 is out?
by Juan Erbes 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Using smart or the yast update tool, with the repo http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ The 2 tools do'nt find any new package. I mean the Metadata is'nt update. If I open http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-RC1/ I got: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-RC1/ on this server. What's happen? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] xen
by Hans Witvliet 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into bugzilla.. With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN ==> kernel-xen got selected and installed <== However, the grub-menu was not extended. re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good. while forcing kernel-xen from yast did append the xen-section into grub, and making it even the default option (thanks for that change!!) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] sorry, where are patterns?
by jdd 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

I feel dumb, but I don't see any difference between the RC1 yast and any previous (pre 10.2) one... the "pattern" menu is very small and mostly there is no tree (text mode ncurse yast), so what? did I miss something? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] "default" packages
by Hans Witvliet 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-) When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only) i expect a real-minimum, however.... I find a lot of packages installed, which might be very nice and helpfull, but i did not select them. they are in three catagories: a) nice be not requested: like tcpdump. This is something a often select, but it should be included into the catagorie of "power-tools for experienced users", not default. b) not wanted. If i want printing, i will select them: cups, cups-drivers, cups-libs, gutenberg, yats2-print should belong to a sub-thread.... c) waste of time/disk space hardware scan should know what kind of hardware there is. Why of why is yast2-scanner, yast2-irda, xfs-tools, dos-stuff installed???? My MOBO does not have a sound-card: so why do i get alsa? (new sound-thread) All of these packages are probaly nice for some people to have. But there are also lots of people who don't need them. Reasoning is this. Either if i select a packages manually, or it it gets installed by default, i have to claryfy its presence with an security officer. Same if its gets installed by default, i i decide to get rid of it. I rather have it not installed unless the it is really needed, Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] what kind of problem is this (RC1)
by jdd 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

after the text mode install, I was in the way of installing X (only basic, I had no room for more). When I was asked to look at the exess gnome packages (see elsewhere on this list), I went to the computer, it was asking for the second cd. I hit "cancel", go back to the yast software template menu, unmark X and accept. I had a screen with no package to remove and exit yast. I now notice I have 1.2Gb occupied, and before I had only 1Gb. so it look like the package installed from the first cd where not removed what did I do wrong? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] grub timeout
by Hans Witvliet 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared from grub? I had to add that line over three times now.... After booting it just waits in the grub menu. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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