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[opensuse-factory] dist meeting 2006-08-31: Minutes
by Andreas Jaeger 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Here're my minutes from the last meeting. PolicyKit / ResMgr ================== PolicyKit is a control instance that can be asked before performing an action and therefore can restrict what a user can do on a desktop. It's a system wide daemon, currently running as root. Problems: * Another daemon * possible code quality * overlaps in parts with resmgr Resmgr grants access via ACL to logged in users which is something that PolicyKit does not handle. The consensus was that the features of PolicyKit are liked. We would like to implement the features of resmgr in PolicyKit and drop resmgr so that we have only one daemon running. This needs further evaluation. In 10.2 only hal mounter will use PolicyKit. We plan to have the integration with resmgr done for 10.3. Cryptofs ======== We currently use crypto-loop to setup crypt-partitions. It has been proposed to use the new dm-cryptoloop with LUKS extensions. Since this needs changes in YaST and the boot scripts, it might not be doable for 10.2. We'll investigate this now. Removing Build Dependencies =========================== The minimal set of packages to bootstrap the by default added packages (those that will be added if BuildRequires is empty) consists of 209 packages. The added packages contain some convenience packages like vim and strace for debugging. We discussed the goal to identify a small set of core packages for bootstrapping or for a core distribution. The discussion will continue on mailing lists, the people at the meeting did not see that any directly needed action. GNOME 2.16 and /usr =================== Currently factory has three bugs, the major one is a broken metacity which has just been fixed. The goal is to get everything this until 2006-09-01 into the distribution so that we can do basic tests and then have Alpha4 with GNOME 2.15.92. Once GNOME 2.16 is working properly, the team plans to move from /opt/gnome to /use. This is done in separate steps to make debugging easier. This move has to be done by the end of september - in time for Alpha5. If not, it will be done for 10.3. GNOME will use the %configure and %install rpm macros. No objections from anybody. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] kdmrc - can't find it
by Felix Miata 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

I just ftp installed factory with KDE. /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm does not exist. Searching the /etc tree came up empty. Where is kdmrc hiding out? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: "CLASS-A" scripts
by Christoph Thiel 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Hi there, let's get back to the SuSEconfig clearance initiative :) Instead of looking at a special script this time, this is a list of scripts that fall into the same category. They take data from /etc/sysconfig and (re)write it to /etc/* or /var/* (or somewhere else). Possible solutions are to extend init-scripts to do the job, or to patch the corresponding programs to read /etc/sysconfig directly. * SuSEconfig.scim (package: scim) takes /etc/sysconfig/keyboard to set DefaultKeyboardLayout in /etc/scim/global -> patch scim to read /etc/sysconfig/keyboard directly * SuSEconfig.isdn (package: i4l-base) generates isdn configuration from /etc/sysconfig/network, /etc/sysconfig/network/providers and /etc/sysconfig/isdn -> do not touch ;) * SuSEconfig.mailman (package: mailman) reads /etc/sysconfig/mailman into /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py -> init-script? * SuSEconfig.news (package: aaa_base) creates /etc/organization, /etc/nntpserver, /etc/inews_mail_gateway and some files in /var/lib/news -> init-script? * SuSEconfig.pbs (package: OpenPBS) reads /etc/sysconfig/pbs_server to create some files in /var/spool/pbs/ -> init-script? * SuSEconfig.postfix (package: postfix) lot's of config file manipulation based on /etc/sysconfig/postfix :) -> do not touch? * SuSEconfig.sendmail (package: sendmail) -> do not touch either :) * SuSEconfig.susehelp (package: susehelp) set up susehelp configuration & do some indexing -> cron? + initscript? * SuSEconfig.permissions (package: permissions) -> do not touch! * SuSEconfig.groff (package: groff) create /etc/papersize -> patch groff to figure out papersize based on LC_PAPER? * SuSEconfig.syslog-ng (package: syslog-ng) -> patch syslog-ng to read /etc/sysconfig/syslog-ng (fix already WIP) This should be pretty much it -- SuSEconfig.{gdm,wdm,xdm} and SuSEconfig.kde, which are not on this list, are already WIP, AFAIK :) Over to you: Comments, criticism, better ideas? ;) Regards Christoph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Mandriva 2007 will have Xgl on live CD
by Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

I've just found this interesting news. Maybe a little help to bump some futures on next release. :) -------- Mensagem encaminhada -------- > De: Planet Mandriva <bozo(a)dev.null.invalid> > Assunto: Mandriva team: Mandriva Linux 2007 Beta 3 : Tyr > Data: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:43:23 -0000 > > Mandriva team: Mandriva Linux 2007 Beta 3 : Tyr > Mandriva Linux 2007 Beta 3 Tyr > The latest Mandriva Linux 2007 Beta, codenamed Tyr is out of the oven. > > It’s time to embrace 3-dimensional Mandriva Linux[2]. Tyr delivers a > ONE CD with 3D Desktops enabled: > > * AIXGL and XGL support > * Both FREE and proprietary drivers handled, for INTEL, Nvidia > and ATI chipsets > * Compiz window manager for some neat effects > * Ready for KDE and GNOME desktops (”KDE 3.5.4 and GNOME 2.16 > RC1″-inside) > * Featuring the new Drak3D tool for easy management :) > > ONE is a live-and-install CD. Just slide into your drive, boot on the > CD, and enjoy the ride. > > URL: > http://corp.mandriva.com/webteam/2006/09/02/mandriva-linux-2007-beta-3-tyr/ > [2] http://corp.mandriva.com/webteam/2006/08/21/say-hello-to-3d/ -- % Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) % mteixeira{a}webset{d}net <> Maceio/AL/BR % http://mteixeira.webset.net <> http://pmping.sf.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Boot time
by Rasto Krupansky 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

Hello I'm here the first time, so i hope i'll send my question on right place. I want to ask about this project: http://en.opensuse.org/Boot_time Have you started to work on it?Will it be available something in openSuSE 10.2?What's new about it?That the plan,booting in 5 seconds, is great. Thanx Rasto -- Tato zpráva byla vytvořena převratným poštovním klientem Opery: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 successfully installed via network
by Émeric Maschino 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Hi, Just to report a successfull network installation of openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 (hosted by oss.sgi.com) on my hp workstation zx6000. At the moment, I noticed that there are at least problems with the GNOME settings daemon ( http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-08/msg00563.html) and DRI (not yet reported). Cheers, Émeric

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[opensuse-factory] Error while starting the GNOME settings daemon
by Émeric Maschino 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Hi, I just finished a fresh network installation of openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 on my hp workstation zx6000 (Itanium IA-64 architecture). When I log in a GNOME session, I'm getting a dialog stating that there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon. This dialog has no window decoration at all. During the same time, the window manager icon is displayed for several minutes in the GNOME splash screen before the starting process and the remaining icons are displayed. I eventually access to a GNOME desktop, but there's no window decoration at all and windows can't thus be moved, resized, etc. I've only found one similar report here www.tuxmachines.org/node/8898 There's nothing similar in bugzilla for the openSUSE 10.2 and OpenSUSE.org products. I've found similar reports on Google for older SuSE distributions: it appears this was due to the language settings. However, changing the language settings to en_US.UTF-8 or even POSIX doesn't help. Is there anybody out there experiencing the same problem? Is this issue specific to Itanium? To 64-bit architectures? If it can help, here's the contents of my ~/.xsession_errors (as user emeric): /etc/opt/gnome/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/opt/gnome/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "emeric" /etc/X11/xim: Checking wether an input method should be started. INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale fr_FR.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. Failed to execute message bus daemon ${exec_prefix}/bin/dbus-daemon: No such file or directory. Will try again without full path. SESSION_MANAGER=local/zx6000:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4485 /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' Avertissement du gestionnaire de fenêtres : Nom de clé ou de répertoire incorrect: « ENABLE_WINDOWS_KEYS » : Doit commencer par une barre oblique (/) /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' (process:4640): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed (nautilus:4629): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to activate daemon: The name org.gnome.GnomeVFS.Daemon was not provided by any .service files Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension Initializing nautilus-share extension /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' ** (gnome-panel:4627): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1259: failed to load applet OAFIID:TomboyApplet: (null) /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' (gnome-panel:4627): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed (gnome-panel:4627): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed ** (nautilus:4629): WARNING **: Can not caclulate _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS ** (nautilus:4629): WARNING **: Can not calculate _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS ** (nautilus:4629): WARNING **: Can not get _NET_WORKAREA ** (nautilus:4629): WARNING **: Can not determine workarea, guessing at layout /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' /opt/gnome/share/themes/Clarius/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:57: error: unexpected identifier `animation', expected character `}' Cheers, Émeric --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Agenda for tomorrow's distribution meeting
by Robert Schiele 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:48:28PM +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > This basically boils down to first identifying the dependency sets for > > - the install-time dependencies of a minimal install > - the build-requirements to build the minimal install system > - the build and install-time requirements of the minimal build-root > > and so identify the current CORE system. From that prune out things > that we do not want in that CORE system (like emacs) by fixing > package install and build time dependencies. Ok, that sounds reasonable. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
by Joerg Mayer 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:40:59PM +0200, Jiri Benc wrote: > d80211 (aka DeviceScape stack) isn't stable yet. There are known locking > problems (see f.e. http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg13279.html) > d80211 is known not to work with NetworkManager yet, user space tools > for advanced features of d80211 need to be written. > > We definitely won't have all of this fixed in time for 2.6.18. Do you really mean 2.6.18 or 2.6.19? And while neither NM nor advanced features may be ready in time for the 10.2 release, even the basic functionality will quite likely be very welcome when compared to shipping a 10.2 without any support for these cards. > > Some driver developers therefore perfer to use the DeviceScape stack. > > There is a general consensus that new wireless drivers should use > d80211. ... unless the card has very much intelligence inside: it doesn't look like the current ipw2100 and ipw2200 can be ported with a reasonable amount of work to the devicescape stack - the ipw3945 has already been ported by Intel (still waiting for the release). > > Other drivers (like madwifi) even use their > > own stack implementation. The inhomogeneity of the wireless LAN drivers > > is a major drawback for us, but unfortunately it does not look like it > > will get better until we have a full featured ieee80211 stack in the > > mainline kernel every WLAN driver developer can live with. I've been following the developemnt of the wireless stack for quite a while now, and wihle it looked like the (Intel based) current ieee stack would be the base for a future unified wireless stack, things have changed significantly and chances are really high that d80211 will be the future - there has even been the discussion on netdev to make the switch as early as 2.6.19 (that's why I wrote "might ... one release early"). So even if it isn't quite ready for prime time now, it looks like it is very close - and if it makes it into a 2.6.19rcX while 10.2 is still in beta, I'd like to see a backport going into the suse 10.2 kernel - that's what I was really aiming at. ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer(a)loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] upstart for opensuse
by Marcus Rueckert 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

hi, http://www.netsplit.com/blog/work/canonical/upstart.html i did a plain package for it. sysv-rc is still missing. will do it once i am at home. :) package can be found in home:darix darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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