- openSUSE Factory

Re: [opensuse-edge] Edge -> Factory
by James Ogley 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

> as written before we are in the need of relabeling Edge into something else. > We do rename it to Factory according to the discussion on this list. Yay! Glad to see my idea was thought worthy of this, I'm really honoured - thanks guys. Welcome to the new list :) -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org

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Suggestions for ext3 filesystem in the YAST2 installer
by jsiebert＠arcor.de 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

Hi there, i've been using ext3 as my favorite filesystem for all of my systems for some time now because of stability reasons (had some problems with xfs, reiserfs burns to many cpu cycles). Performance of ext3 in it's standard configuration on openSUSE/SUSE Linux 10 is not that good compared to reiserfs or xfs especially when it comes to write operations. So I've investigated the issue myself and found some things that could be improved in the future. 1. data=ordered vs. data=writeback on / filesystems. In ordered jounalling mode of ext3 data is always written to disk prior to the metadata (journal data). This ensures data consistency in most cases. However the performance of this option is not that well. In writeback journalling mode the metadata might get comitted to the journal before the data is actually written to the disk. This might lead to data corruption in some cases (e.g. power-off before the data could be written to disk but the journal data already has been commited). But on the other hand performance of this option is considerably better. The YAST2 installer allows to set the writeback journalling mode but not in the / filesystem. I one specifies the data=writeback option in /etc/fstab the / filesystem is mounted in ordered journalling mode although. To get around this one can use the tune2fs tools with the option '-o journal_data_writeback'. This sets the default mount option for the filesystem with which it gets mounted in writeback journalling mode. The same applies to the 'journal' journalling mode. So my first suggestion for the YAST2 installer is to call' tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback' for the respective device if a user selects the writeback journalling mode on ext3 for the / filesystem. I've tested this on three different machines without any problems. 2. Enable dir_index feature ext3 has a feature called 'dir_index' which enables faster lookups in large filesystems by using a technique called hashed b-trees. Currently a user which wants to use this feature has to manually convert the filesystem by using 'tune2fs -O dir_index <device>' and 'fsck.ext3 -fD <device>' which takes a long time to complete on large filesystems. This feature can also be enabled by using 'mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index <device>' at filesystem creation time. The YAST2 installer doesn't offer an option for this. So my second suggestion is to add an option to the YAST2 installer to enable the dir_index feature at filesystem creation time. I've also tested this option on three different system and noticed some speedups especially on slower systems (my notebook). That's all for today ;-) Maybe these suggestions could be considered for future openSUSE/SUSE Linux releases. Greetings, Machen Sie aus 14 Cent spielend bis zu 100 Euro! Die neue Gaming-Area von Arcor - über 50 Onlinespiele im Angebot. http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-gaming-1

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problem with eject and cdrecorder
by Chema Ollés 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Hi all: Ever since I updated same files for alpha2 I have problem with /dev/cdrecorder (/dev/hdd).I don't know if is a problem related with permission but: 1- I can't eject it .I eject /dev/dvd (/dev/hdc) normaly. 2- I can't use cdrecord 3- I can mount it and 4- I can eject it if I use /media/cdrecorder Why this change? And How can I burn cds now? Thanks -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.14-rc3-g82984114 #1 SMP Sat Oct 8 15:39:19 CEST 2005 i686

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ATI drivers missing?
by Jorge Godoy 30 Oct '05

30 Oct '05

Hi! My problem with X after updating to 10.1 Alpha2 was not with fontconfig, but with the lack of the 'radeon' driver... Is this the correct place to find out what to do? jupiter:~ # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-smp-nongpl-2.6.14_rc5_git5-20051027163336 kernel-smp-2.6.14_rc5_git5-20051027163336 kernel-update-tool-0.9-13 jupiter:~ # -- Jorge Godoy <jgodoy(a)gmail.com>

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update to 10.1-alpha2 and dependencies
by Chema Ollés 29 Oct '05

29 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: I'm sorry,I know I must not have changed to 10.1 alpha2 but I did it. :-( I see this when run apt -> The following packages have unmet dependencies: ImageMagick: Depends: libdps.so.1 but it is not installable Depends: libdpstk.so.1 but it is not installable bind-libs: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable bind-utils: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable cups: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable cups-drivers-stp: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable cups-libs: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable cyrus-sasl-digestmd5: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable cyrus-sasl-saslauthd: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable gkrellm: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable hplip: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable libgnome: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable neon: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable net-snmp: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable openldap2-client: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable opensc: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable rdesktop: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable smpppd: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable subversion: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable vorbis-tools: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable w3m: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable xntp: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable yast2-transfer: Depends: libcrypto.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Depends: libssl.so.0.9.7 but it is not installable Well I try solved this. I create links for the old libs but is not enough... How could I do it? ;-) If is it possible solved it... cheers - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.14-rc3-g82984114 #1 SMP Sat Oct 8 15:39:19 CEST 2005 i686 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDX1Gj65SpD7GhbzoRAqayAJ9plR29Iq8mpI2MvIrtu9t/0TyBiQCggaPB 8EYIxRDmAHnV4sR2DS8I55U= =QrDX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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current Edge issues
by Adrian Schroeter 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Hi, topics: 1. fontconfig 2. gcc 4.1 3. "Edge Distribution" renaming Ehe fontconfig package in current Edge sync is hopeless broken, even the "fc-cache -f" workaround does not help anymore. After installing the fontconfig package from 10.0 the system works nicely here. We put the old fontconfig package into Edge until the upstream becomes usable again. It should get out today with the next sync. We will also go for gcc 4.1 branch update the next days. It does work quite good, all ICE (internal compiler errors) which happend during build are fixed and I do work already on such a system. However, the new compiler has of cause again new stricter checks for C and C++ code, so not every code which did compile before will get accepted. Another issue, we will need to rename the "Edge" distribution. There were confusions with "Edge Server" solutions. I consider it better to rename it now than to do it later. However, we do not have a new name for it. Does anyone have any suggestion ? bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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amarok again
by meister＠netz00.com 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

Hi list, ok now I am really angry: I changed amarok.desktop, not to include "inode/directory;" two days ago. Today I click on myComputer.desktop and...amarok opens! I take a look in amarok.desktop and inode/directory is in it again! I did not do any update or install. What has changed my amarok.desktop-file ?!? A cron-job? Windows on another partition? A burglar? The affected computer has no internet connection (yet). The only thing I did was playing around with the radeon driver. -- mdc

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gpm broken
by meister＠netz00.com 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

Hi, I just recognize that copy and paste with gpm between virtual consoles did not work anymore. I press CTRL-ALT-F3, mark some text, press CTRL-ALT-F2 and click with the middle button of the mouse (press the wheel). It only inserts the first marked char and some spaces... On Alpha1 this worked AFAIR. -- mdc

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inst-source-java and inst-source-extra for EDGE
by Robert Schiele 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

Hi! Are there any chances we get inst-source-java and inst-source-extra for EDGE in the near future? Especially without the second one the EDGE distribution is not really useable on many machines because of the missing *-nongpl modules. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de

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Tomcat 5.5
by Frank Steiner 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

Hi, since there isn't a inst-source-java for 10.1 alpha2 yet, I can't check myself: Will tomcat 5.5 be included in 10.1? 10.0 still features 5.0.30 which is way too old for our needs :-) Is it already known, which tomcat version 10.1 will contain? cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *

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