October 2011 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] announcing the release of openSUSE 11.3
by Anders Johansson 04 Oct '11

04 Oct '11

any particular reason why en.opensuse.org is announcing 11.3? The banner (replacing the OSC 'see you next year' icon) is "11.3 Out Now" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tests with installation of Beta 1
by Freek de Kruijf 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Today I did several test installations using the DVD ISO and KDE Live CD (x86_64), both on my desktop system as well as on my laptop. The most striking problem is that after booting the KDE Live CD (using the ISO image from CD and from a USB stick) there is no icon on the Desktop to click to install openSUSE 12.1 Beta 1. I consider this a showstopper. It is all due to the fact that a container with a Folder View of the folder Desktop is missing on the screen, which is in a bug report. Still a number of less important problems, for which there are bug reports, are present. One of these is that on the laptop it is possible to configure wireless, but after configuration (NetworkManager with SSID, WPA/PSK, passphrase) the network does not work during the network test. Only after finishing the installation, with some difficulty, a reboot is needed, one can configure the wireless interface in the networkmanager-applet. I also tried to boot the DVD image from a USB stick (16 GB). It did boot, but it did hang when configuring udev, so before YaST became active. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Update frequency of the openSUSE:Factory snapshot repo
by Raymond Wooninck 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

In the past the snapshot repo was created (AFAIK) to reduce the number of rebuilds triggered by changes in the Factory/standard repo. However this is no longer the case. The snapshot repo seems to be updated as soon as that the Factory/standard repo is being published and this causes an big number of rebuilds. Of course this is the way that things should work, but I wonder if it is really necessary to have the snapshot repo updated at least once a day (if not twice a day). This is causing that repo's that are building against it to be triggered for a full rebuild again and bigger repo's will just keep on building and building, without ever really coming to the point to be published. My question now is if we can lower the frequency of updating the snapshot repo (and give somewhat more peace to OBS) or is there a way to setup a repository to ignore those snapshot updates ? Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] update to cmake 2.8.5 in tumbleweed?
by Jason Newton 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Hi, opensuse 11.4 is getting to be a few cmake versions behind (2.8.3) and my workarounds are growing for modules that have fixes upstream. How about updating what's in, at least, tumbleweed? I'd be glad if it got put into 11.4 updates but tumbleweed is a great start. I found a build laying around in the tools:building repository but yet another repository is undesirable, especially since I maintain alot of build machines at my workplace. Thoughts? Yay / Nay? -Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] xorg-x11-driver-video request to split-up
by Joop Boonen 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Hi, Currently this package doesn't build for ARM as of broken code for the xgi driver. I wonder if it would be an idea to slit the package up into different rpm packages, for each driver one rpm package. Basically the same was MeeGo does. The advantage is that it'll safe space. What is important for ARM. I think that chance that an ARM system will be connected to a XGI card is next to nothing. So this driver doesn't need to be maintained for ARM, I think. What do you think about this? Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Sound goes and goes
by Donn Washburn 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

On 10/02/2011 08:11 PM, Donn Washburn wrote: > On 10/02/2011 07:56 PM, Donn Washburn wrote: >> Hey Group; >> >> Why would the sound come and go after a reboot where the sound worked >> with TVtime? Amarok does work but it is a Line Input and therefore not >> PCM. TV time was working and it was with sound now it has stopped >> working. > Correction Amarok is PCM and TVtime is Line In > Found it something is clearing the programing that the TVcard looses on reboot. As I remember from long ago it was stored in /etc/modprobe.conf (which always worked). Now it seems that what ever is the storage place of this info is not being written by YAST2>Hardware>TV card correctly. Run it every time you reboot then it will work. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Sound goes and goes
by Donn Washburn 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Hey Group; Why would the sound come and go after a reboot where the sound worked with TVtime? Amarok does work but it is a Line Input and therefore not PCM. TV time was working and it was with sound now it has stopped working. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 12.1 Beta 1 KDE4 install - problems and observations
by C 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Running into a few hiccups with a vanilla 12.1 Beta 1 KDE4 install. Thought maybe it'd be worth mentioning them here (sorry, it's a long email, but it's basically a step by step log of what I encountered during my test installs). Install was done on an Asus EEE 1005HA netbook using full DVD ISO written to USB stick (using SuSE Studio Imagewriter). Writing the ISO to the USB stick was easy/smooth. Initial boot worked OK, but then the install errors out requiring several additional steps in a text console to make the install continue. The error message is: - Make sure that CD number 1 is in your drive. To work around this, I had to select (in text mode): - Back > English > English (US) > Start Installation > Start Installation or Update > Hard Disk > (select USB stick), type a / in the text edit field and press Enter. After following these steps, the install switched back to GUI mode and continued normally. I installed 3 times, and it happened each time. This is something that would be very confusing to a user who has not encountered this before. After the install completed, I bumbled into several problems/issues: 1. Apps are not always removed from the taskbar See: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278891 2. Extra/duplicate launchers for Firefox and Dolphin are shown on the taskbar. You can remove them, but on logout/login, they are added back. The extra lanuchers have smaller icons than the "standard" launchers. See; https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240 3. KNetwork manager not working as expected. The following point are the steps I followed to get WiFi working: a. Network icon (with no connection) is a tiny dot that is almost impossible to see. See screen shot at: http://www.digitaldragon.ca/WiFi_icon.png b. Click KNetworkManager > WLAN Interface and nothing happens. I had to always click twice (not double-click, two distinct clicks) to open the WLAN Interface. c. Initial WiFi setup - selected my WiFi router, and did a normal setup. Did not use KWallet, just clicked through to use "unsafe" storage. Connection fails with a Cannot Connect error. Shows a key over the signal strength icon in the taskbar. d. Click Manage Connections, and the password request window is opened behind all other open windows. Brought it forward, and entered root password. Errors out with: "No agents were available for this request". Click OK and the Edit Network Connections window opens. e. Wireless Security password field is blank. I entered the WiFi password, made sure thatConnect Automatically is selected, and it connects. f. After reboot, a Secrets for (WiFi name) - KDE Daemon window opens asking for my WiFi password. I enter the WiFi password, and check the WiFi connection. The WiFi password field is blank again. I fill it in for the 3rd time, and save. After reboot again, the WiFi password is now saved and things work correctly. 4. Reboot fails/locks on the first install I did, requiring a hard restart. This looks similar to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702220 but not exactly the same. Console error message is: NetworkManager[742]: <warn> disconnected by the system bus NetworkManager[742]:<warn> quit request recieved, terminating... NetworkManager[742]: dbus_g_proxy_call_no_reply: assertion '!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed At this point the reboot stops, and nothing happens until a hard restart. This was not duplicated on a second clean install. 5. On reboot, I sometimes see a PolicyKit1-KDE segfault error. This is intermittent, and I haven't seen a pattern to it yet. 6. Icon for Documents (in Dolphin) is missing. 7. Flash videos (YouTube for example) do not work on initial install. The Plugin Finder fails to find a suitable plugin. Pluuin Flashplayer is installed, but is not triggering. I had to install Flash manually from the default Factory repos. The default Flash version that is installed is the old 10.3 one instead of the new 11.0.r1.129 (current RC1). Are there plans to provide the 11.0 player? 8. On initial startup of the Software Manager, it tries to connect to the DVD. This has to be manually disabled - shouldn't this be disabled by default? Or am I the only one who doesn't leave the install media in the drive (or in my case, plugged into the USB port) after the install is complete? ---------- Some observations.... The tap-to-click and right-hand touchpad scroll are now disabled by default. They can be enabled in the KDE config settings. This new default behavior is not what users are expecting in my testing - tested with users who are not familiar with Linux or KDE. They all expected tap-to-click and constantly tapped the touchpad when they wanted a left-mouse-click. Not all tried to right-hand side scroll... some did 2 finger scroll as is default in Windows 7 (and now apparently KDE4 as well). The default behavior of the KDE4 desktop is confusing to new users. Dragging a file to the desktop, the user is presented with a menu of choices - the choices are dependent on the file contents. Most choices are widget related. These files are not dropped into the Desktop directory - they are converted to widgets... this is not intuitive since you end up with some files in the /home/$USER/Desktop directory, and some on the Desktop... but neither one contains the same files. I can see this causing some interesting and annoying support issues until people are used to this somewhat unintuitive and backwards behavior. Contents of the Desktop directory are not shown on the KDE desktop (in default configuration). If I add a Folder View widget to the desktop and configure to show the contents of the Desktop directory, then the contents of the Desktop are displayed. Again, this is confusing to new users who expect that the Desktop directory contents are actually shown on the Desktop. The new artwork for 12.1 is very nice. It's clean and very professional looking - a MASSIVE improvement over the 11.4 artwork. Connecting to Samba shares (eg my NAS drive) was relatively simple - just typing smb://<IP Address> worked without any drama or pain. KDE4 performance is snappy and fast even on the relatively modest hardware of the EEE netbook - it's even able to manage the default Desktop Effects without any noticeable slowdown. All features for the netbook are working (sound, WiFi, NIC, video, Function keys etc) right from install - which is a LOT more than I can say for a clean install of Windows 7 (where most things don't work from initial install). Overall, it's a really solid Beta 1 that is working very well. :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Thunderbird problems with 12.1 Beta
by Kim Leyendecker 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

Hello all! I installed openSUSE 12.1 Beta 1 in a virtual machine (VirtualBox) on my workstation. After the finished installation and configuration, I started my machine in full-screen mode and opened a new terminal. I switched to root and did the following: zypper install thunderbird after this, zypper should install Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0, but it broke up with a error. I haven´t the error here (I´m back to 11.4 to write this e-mail. no internet connection under 12.1 :-( ) Has anyone else such a problem? Or could you please test it on your 12.1 machines? If you got the same, I will file a bugreport. It would be really sad to not have a running thunderbird in final 12.1... thanks for your help, Kim -- -o) Kim Leyendecker /\\ openSUSE Ambassador, openSUSE Wiki Team DE _\_v http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] regression in (GNOME) factory regarding gtk2 development
by Boris Manojlovic 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

Hi, gtk2-devel package does not pull "shared-mime-info" (more specificaly it should be pulled by gdk-pixbuf-devel) required by gdk-pixbuf-devel or specifically gdk-pixbuf-csource command from same package GDK uses mime-info for controlling which "loader" will be used for loading images and if package is missing it will fail to call correct shared library, as can not determine given image type. Installing shared-mime-info is enough to make loaders work as expected but should be fixed on higger level. Boris ------------------- error snip --------------- gdk-pixbuf-csource --extern --struct --raw --name=startbanner_pixdata rsrc/build.bmp > rsrc/editor_banner.c failed to load "rsrc/build.bmp": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file 'rsrc/build.bmp' ------------------- error snip --------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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