May 2008 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Again: Default bittorrent client
by Christian Jäger 05 May '08

05 May '08

Hello all, I think the decision to make Monsoon the default bittorrent client for 11.0 might have been a little rushed. True, it looks nice; true, its developer is very forthcoming. But it seems far from really usable: - It hogs memory like nobody's business: ATM I'm downloading the openSUSE beta 2 DVD with it and it uses 54,3 MBs RAM and 414.8(!) MBs of SWAP; CPU usage averages around 25%. This is far, far above what Transmission uses! - Once running, it won't accept torrent-files via Firefox. You have to download the torrent-file and add it to the queue manually! IMHO those two are showstoppers for Monsoon in 11.0. After they've been fixed, I wouldn't mind using Monsoon, but can this be done reliably until the release date for 11.0 final? Please let's simply get back to the working solution, i.e. Transmission and wait till Monsoon has matured. Greets, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Experiences with Beta 1
by Michael Schmuker 05 May '08

05 May '08

I just installed Beta 1 (x86_64), and I must say I'm impressed! It feels faster than 10.3 overall, and especially zypper has finally become fast enough to outperform smart. Even most rough edges of KDE4 have been smoothened out. Kudos to the developers! But I also noticed the following two issues: 1) I can't drag-and-drop from the KDE4 desktop to Dolphin, e.g. when I download something with Firefox and it gets saved to ~/Desktop by default. That's sort of inconvenient. 2) I can't connect to my WPA-encrypted WIFI-network with NetworkManager in KDE4. The connection seems to time out. Apart from that, I'm very fond of Beta 1 already, and much looking forward to Beta 2! Cheers, Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Wlanadapter rtl8187b nor working
by Michael Steinhauser 05 May '08

05 May '08

I run OpensSuse Beta2 (x86_64)on a Toshiba laptop with a RTL8187b wlanadapter. The modules are loaded, but the card does not show up as wlan. iwconfig gives me: lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. dmesg | grep -i wlan shows usb 6-6: Product: RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter lsmod | grep -i rtl rtl8187 52608 0 usbcore 188120 4 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,rtl8187 mac80211 220436 1 rtl8187 eeprom_93cx6 19328 1 rtl8187 i tried this from "Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.0_dev" /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -u -f /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log & an got as result dbus_bus_request_name[dbus]: Resource temporarily unavailable Failed to initialize wpa_supplicant I tried to install the ralink-firmware package with yast but it said the package is not available. Then i downloaddt the package and installed it manual. Yast shows it as installed but with 0 files. rpm - ql ralink-firmware shows /lib/firmware/LICENSE.ralink-firmware.txt /lib/firmware/rt2561.bin /lib/firmware/rt2561s.bin /lib/firmware/rt2661.bin /lib/firmware/rt73.bin lsusb Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187B Wireless Adapter hwinfo shows for the device: 49: USB 00.0: 0000 Unclassified device [Created at usb.122] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_bda_8197_00e04c000001_if0 Unique ID: kQby.mxPV7LrmdS5 Parent ID: 7eqy.MrJLBLcWB9F SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.5/usb6/6-6/6-6:1.0 SysFS BusID: 6-6:1.0 Hardware Class: unknown Model: "Realtek RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x0bda "Realtek Semiconductor Corp." Device: usb 0x8197 "RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter" Revision: "2.00" Serial ID: "00e04c000001" Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v0BDAp8197d0200dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #50 (Hub) Can someone tell me how to get it work? Thank you Michael -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Evolution icons missing
by Doctor Who 05 May '08

05 May '08

I notice that all the icons that should be appearing in Evolution are missing in Factory. Anyone else seeing this? Known issue? Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Error message when trying to update with openSUSE updater
by Doctor Who 05 May '08

05 May '08

The message that appears as a pop-up is: "--terse is not implemented, does nothing" Where does this come from and how can it be circumvented or suppressed? It appears that it may keep a number of packages from being updated. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSuse 11.0beta2 seems to overheat processor
by Jogchum Reitsma 05 May '08

05 May '08

Sid Boyce schreef: > Jogchum Reitsma wrote: > >> Well, I ran 10.0 trough 10.3 without major troubles, so I think the >> machine itself is not the first suspect. But in general laptops >> indeed have not been the best Linux-runners as far as I know. >> >> regards, Jogchum >> > > Same here, I had no problems until 11.0 Alpha0. During the install, > the fan would speed up and not long after, the laptop would power off. > I also have the laptop sitting on a cooler running at full speed and > separately powered. > It was fine from whatever version of SuSE was around in April 2004 > right up to openSUSE 10.3. Pop the 10.3 DVD in and it was OK. As a > matter of fact, when I changed the hard drive after it failed, I had > to install 10.3 instead of 11.0 Alpha, then I upgraded. That's when I > noticed the fan sped up with 11.0 Alpha and not with 10.3. It didn't > seem to be dependent on the length of time it was powered on. > It could be software, none-the-less, but I would advise having a close > look at temperature while doing something that stresses the CPU. > Another indication that mine is a heat problem, I set "powersave -f" > for a few minutes, it was at 76C, now I have it set "powersave -l" and > it's come down. I just remembered, if I compiled a kernel with > powersave -f, it would power off part way through. > These laptops are not easy to get into so I could inspect the heatsink. > Boycie:/home/boycie # sensors > k8temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > Core0 Temp: +76.0°C > > You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/boycie > Boycie:/home/boycie # powersave -l > Policy set to powersave > Boycie:/home/boycie # sensors > k8temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > Core0 Temp: +71.0°C > > Boycie:/home/boycie # sensors > k8temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > Core0 Temp: +69.0°C > > Boycie:/home/boycie # sensors > k8temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > Core0 Temp: +58.0°C > > Building a kernel with "powersave -l" and it seems stable at 63C. > Boycie:~ # sensors > k8temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > Core0 Temp: +63.0°C > > Regards > Sid. > > Regards > Sid. OK, so our problems seem related. My proc doesn't support regulating the cpufreq (see my answers to Holger), so that's no solution for me: powersave -l liblazy (liblazy_dbus_send_method_call:97): Received error reply: Method "SetCPUFreqGovernor" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.CPUFreq" doesn't exist Could not set CPUFreq policy to powersave. I think it's time opening a bug here. But for my part that will have to be later this afternoon or tomorrow. Regards, Jogchum --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 11.0 features - YaST Heartbeat Command line support - where for x86_64?
by Toni Harbaugh-Blackford 05 May '08

05 May '08

The Testing:Features_11.0 page lists "YaST Heartbeat Command line support" as one of the features to test. However, I don't see any of the configuration utilities from the linux-ha project page after I install heartbeat. I notice that the pacemaker package appears to contain the command line utilities that are needed, but pacemaker is not available for x86_64, only for ppc and i586. The build repositories don't seem to indicate any problem building pacemaker for x86_64, so I am curious as to why it is not included. Anyone have any info about this? Thanks, Toni ------------------------------------------------------------------- Toni Harbaugh-Blackford Advanced Biomedical Computing Center (ABCC) National Cancer Institute --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ATTN: Roman Drahtmüller
by Andreas van dem Helge 05 May '08

05 May '08

Per: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/axp/README.txt The AXP release of SuSE has been moved in 2003. Per: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/discontinued/deleted-20070817/README.txt The AXP archives have been deleted in 2007. Yet per: http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/downloads/ftp/int_mirrors.html There are supposed to be many mirrors still with AXP, including ftp.suse, which is impossible. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSuse 11.0beta2 seems to overheat processor
by Jogchum Reitsma 04 May '08

04 May '08

Holger Macht schreef: > Hi, > > (please don't forget to reply to the list) > > Oops..... sorry for this ommision! Will remember. > > Sorry, but your CPU never supported CPU frequency scaling, so my suspicion > was wrong. > > Regards, > Holger > > OK, thanks for your thoughts. And if anything else comes to your mind.... regards, Jogchum --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSuse 11.0beta2 seems to overheat processor
by Holger Macht 04 May '08

04 May '08

On So 04. Mai - 19:12:59, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: > Holger Macht schreef: >> On Sun 04. May - 15:58:25, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Before entering a bug, I thougt it might be good to drop this here. >>> >>> Since install of OS11.0B2 on my Acer laptop 1710 (Pentium 4 at 2.8 GHz, >>> 1,5 GB memory), the reported processor temp is way too high. Simply >>> opening one session and running only gkrellm, proc temp gets up til 73 >>> degr. Celsius; the fan is running fast accordingly. >>> >>> Even without a session, only the graphical login displayed, one can hear >>> the fan speeding up, until after one or two minutes it gets at it top >>> speed. >>> >>> gkrellm reports virtually no processor activity, so >>> - is the temperature reported incorrect? or >>> - what is heating the processor up, if it has almost nothing to do? >>> >>> Before 11B2 it ran 10.3 without these findings. >>> >>> I'm eager to hear your comments! >>> >> >> What does >> >> $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_governor >> >> show? >> >> Are modules processor and thermal loaded? >> >> Regards, >> Holger >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org >> >> >> >> > Entering > > l /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu* > > gives > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0: > totaal 0 > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 0 mei 4 19:02 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 mei 4 19:02 ../ > drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 mei 4 19:05 cpuidle/ > -r-------- 1 root root 4096 mei 4 19:05 crash_notes > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 mei 4 19:05 microcode/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 mei 4 19:05 thermal_throttle/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 mei 4 19:05 topology/ > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle: > totaal 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 mei 4 19:04 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 mei 4 19:02 ../ > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 mei 4 19:05 current_driver > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 mei 4 19:05 current_governor_ro > > so there' s no cpufreq dir. > > boot.msg has > > Loading CPUFreq modules (CPUFreq not supported) > > so that's maybe the reason/cause that cpufreq isn't there? Maybe you're processor does not and never did support CPUFreq. Can you please also post the content of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and 'cpufreq-info' (maybe you have to install the cpufrequtils package). Regards, Holger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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