May 2007 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Yast Heartbeat config?
by Birger Kollstrand 27 May '07

27 May '07

Hi, I've been looking around for configuring a HA service in SuSE and found a great article linked from openSUES services. there it is referred to "Yast2 heartbeat". I can not find the module. Not on the default media nor in the build service? Is this not part of openSUSE, only a proprietary module for SLES? If so , that's a shame as I would like to try it out on my test machines prior to implementing at work. If it is SLES only then the referal from the openSUSE wiki article to the SLES documentation should be removed as it is not possible to follow as it is now. (http://en.opensuse.org/Configuration#High_Availability) Regards Birger -- Arendal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Ark Zipper
by Donn Washburn 27 May '07

27 May '07

Hey SuSE; After about 3 hours of downloading that sorry Ark Zipper unzipped a file.iso (that is nice, to see whats in the file.iso). Guess what? It would not save it or do any useful thing with it (like burn to a CD). I even tried lying to it that the file.iso was to be tarred to the HD. It of course failed and up came a bug report. After filling and sending it the wonderful Ark Zipper disappeared. Gone! with no trace of my 3 hour download file.iso Granted it started with my mistake to not catch the "unzip" or "save" message coming from Firefox. Never the less, it needs a "just save as" function. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.3 Alpha4 doesn't boots with Xen kernel
by Alexey Eremenko 25 May '07

25 May '07

hi all ! openSUSE 10.3 Alpha4 doesn't boots with Xen kernel (Host) on real hardware. System: AMD 1.6 GHz, 32-bit, 1GB of RAM, VIA KM400 chipset. The default kernel works perfectly. Where to find it's logs ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] reaplayer on PPC
by Peter Czanik 25 May '07

25 May '07

Hello, Is there any reason for dropping RealPlayer from PPC factory? Even if not perfect, it's still better to have something playing mp3 out of box... Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 4 DOS Partition ?
by Andreas Jaeger 25 May '07

25 May '07

"M9." <monkey9(a)iae.nl> writes: > Andreas Jaeger schreef: >> "Günther J. Niederwimmer" <gjn(a)gjn.priv.at> writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I can't install Alpha 4 on a System with a small (500MB) DOS Partition >>> on /dev/sda1 ? The new installer like to resize the Partition. When I go to >>> manual partitioning I have only EVMS Drives, after reformat the DOS >>> partition to a swap Partition I can install Alpha 4 and I found all my >>> partition in YaST2 Partitioning ? >>> >>> Is this a known Problem ? >> >> No need for a bugreport: There are quite some problems with EVMS - and >> we're removing it for Alpha5 again, it causes more trouble during >> development than it benefits the few openSUSE users that want it, >> >> Andreas > > Does this mean: sda, becomes hda again? ( i found it strange that my ide > disks became scsi-sata devices...) No, I meant the text "I have only EVMS Drives" > (if so i am glad, because there is also no backwards compatability > towards the old system. > > It is not able to mount the partitions (with 10.3 repair) to the system > in 10.2. > as it is not from 10.2 > 10.3 (not able to mount an existing ext2 > partition)) > Trying to rewrite menu list did not succeed. > Screwing happened after installing 10.2, where there was allready 10.3 A4. > Even the installer from 10.3, is not able to start-up the installed > 10.3, recognises the fs, but does not recognise the bootimages somehow... > Also RPM database maintaining, or rebuilding is not compatible.. Please report those as different issues, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Get 10.2 booting again piece of cake.
by M9. 25 May '07

25 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To get the entries back in grub from 10.3 is a piece of cake. I just copied the original entries from 10.2 menu-list, (after mounting the partition as /suse10.2), and paste them unaltered into the menu-list from 10.3, and as a reader that pays attention can see, it indeed worked. ;-) And here the music works :-)) These little things please me.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVs+rX5/X5X6LpDgRAqRJAKDATsxMlrcIk9chvR9uSlkuEtl4ggCdHmFV 1I9/Nc/SjkqGDbvLmO/n0QE= =F8Ji -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Rootmodus from KDE-Configmodule impossible.
by M9. 25 May '07

25 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is impossible to get the rootmodule started from KDE-Configmanager. bug #277292 - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.21-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Alpha4 KDE: 3.5.6 "release 42" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVsqHX5/X5X6LpDgRAvrjAKCK4IjQO5vYBDfn0jDPZVNioUPTPgCg2ULd MCinNV34g3PDqnW2rf8V4ds= =IpES -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Findings about 10.3Alpha4...
by M9. 25 May '07

25 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I do not know if it is important, or some developer can do anything with these words, or maybe even do not read them at all.. Comparing a full system with an Alpha, might not be correct, but i want to write down what i notice anyway ;-) Release notes in 10.2 tell about having more OS on one pc, and how to adapt grub. (it does not work, when 10.2 is installed after 10.3) All entries are there, but 10.3 does not boot. I got it partialy booted up, but the partitions where not integer, so i gave up. (might be not wise to install alpha's with many partitions.) When installing 10.3 after 10.2, the 10.2 entry dissappears ( i did not try to get the entry back, i just finished to re-install 10.3Alpha4.) Parsing the meta-data has been improved remarkable! My compliments ;-) The use of Yast feels more smooth in common. (why the OK button in the middle of the screen, to push at the end of an install?) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We allready know the everlasting dissapointment with the music: *No* music, which is so f***ing boaring, and also the ways to get support from earlier versions are cut off fully, by unsolvable deps, hopefully this is only because of the 'alpha' stage of things.. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- KDE4 Cardgames are horrible, i hope this is an alpha version also... Nice that the cards resize when resizing the window, but the graphics are very ugly, compared with the ones we are used to. Installing is smooth, timing is correct now. I like the built-in 3D aktivation option, sax2 testing a changed config works, when just adapting the screensize from the pulldownmenu, does not change the actual size, it has to be adapted again on the desktop. Overall feeling is that the os is faster. Ram usage booted up system: 512MB, and slightly climbing...during installing: 1074MB The floppydrive light stays on, even there is no disk in the drive. The firewall still does not open lan without moving the network adapter to the internal zone, but i have not noticed any unwanted traffic, since i did this in 10.2 a few months ago. I do not like the way my ide-drives are shown as scsi-sata drives, and the unnessesary text in /etc/fstab i dislike very much. Not only that, but the backwards incompatability causes a lot of trouble, as seen daily in the mailinglist. Apart from these little things, i like it. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.21-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Alpha4 KDE: 3.5.6 "release 42" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVsHxX5/X5X6LpDgRAvvPAKC2orSlHgwvgnf3VooyXwKYMi4UmQCdEEUJ yHtBjVL77fU2JnU4+bFQvaA= =L48s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] php5-pear-db-1.7.6-75 in 10.3a4
by Andreas Klein 25 May '07

25 May '07

Hi, php5-pear-db-1.7.6-75 is in 10.3a4. The website of this project (http://pear.php.net/package/DB) says: This package has been superseded, but is still maintained for bugs and security fixes. Use MDB2 instead. (http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2) Is there a reason, why the new version is not in the current release, or has it simply nobody has noticed that. Bye, -- Andreas Klein Andreas.C.Klein(a)physik.uni-wuerzburg.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fixing the machine after kernel 2.6.21-10
by Silviu Marin-Caea 25 May '07

25 May '07

I have updated my installation with this kernel from factory and it didn't boot anymore (it didn't see the hard-disk). The problem that I'm most concerned about is not this. What is much more serious is that I haven't been able to fix it to boot again. Perhaps I didn't do the right things. I'm gonna describe what I've tried, and if there's something more that could be done, please tell me. 1. Update the kernel 2.6.21-8 to 2.6.21-10, along with a good number of other packages (including hal) 2. Reboot, see that it doesn't work (it doesn't see the storage) 3. Look if the old kernel is still on disk. It isn't. Perhaps it should do a backup called vmlinuz-backup that gets overwritten at each update, so the directory doesn't become full of backups. 4. Decided to install back the old kernel with rpm --upgrade --force 5. boot the alpha4 DVD in rescue mode 6. mkdir /tmp/local mount /dev/sda4 /tmp/local cp [...]/kernel-2.6.21-10[...].rpm /tmp/local chroot /tmp/local rpm --upgrade --force kernel-2.6.21-8[...].rpm At which point I got a lot of errors, probably from the mkinitrd script that didn't see the hard-disk, because the device it's created dynamically at runtime, if I'm correct. 7. I have corrected grub/menu.lst by editing it and tried booting, but it gave the same error (not seeing the disk), probably because the initrd image is invalid. I ended up doing a fresh reinstall. This is not good. Someone with enough knowledge should be able to fix this situation without reinstallation. So either I don't have sufficient knowledge (easily fixable and not a distribution problem) or it can't be done--quite bad. Which one is it? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Grub-entries, partitioning differences between 10.2 > 10.3.
by M9. 25 May '07

25 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I must say that it is very difficult to handle, because when an entry in grub does not work, because 10.2 reads different as 10.3, it is impossible to mount a 10.3 ext2 /boot partition, in the 10.2 partitioner. This way the working entry can not be copied, and placed into the grub. (and i do not know it from my head) So i have an unusable 10.3 sitting there.. does someone know a hack to mount this partition anyway? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVItAX5/X5X6LpDgRAp0iAKC0vVDx9EuKAx41AlN3oImGe+kxOACgoUwk 4zq6uKGBQtbkNQNo9QYyxqA= =rfi9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Multimedia and Media Center patterns and optimizing
by Terje J. Hanssen 24 May '07

24 May '07

No much response so far about this. Isn't here interest and a chance to get the new patterns for Media Center and A/V multimedia applications in 10.3, to provide an alternative to typical the upcoming Windows Home Server and Ubuntu Studio? Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Multimedia and Media Center patterns and optimizing
by Terje J. Hanssen 24 May '07

24 May '07

>From a users point of view, I'll suggest and request a couple of new software patterns for 10.3 with the possibly required optimizing and setup: 1) Multimedia (Desktop functions) 2) Media Center (Server functions) Reasons: To setup working environments for Audio and Video editing, DVD authoring or Media Center in Linux are not assumed to be trivial user tasks. For comparision, the "Ubuntu Studio" was just released a couple of days ago. As far as I've seen from user discussions about it, Ubuntu Studio contains these extra packages and a optimized kernel for "low latency" recording og midi and supports Jack audio: Audio: Ardour2, Jack Graphic: Blender, Gimp, Inkscape, Hugin, Scribus Video: Cinepaint, Kino, PiTiVi Jokosher, Gnonlin library openSUSE 10.2: All of the above packages are already available either for openSUSE 10.2 directly or from Hugin http://repos.opensuse.org/multimedia:/photo/openSUSE_10.2/ Cinepaint http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/bekun/openSUSE_10.2/ several from http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2/ 1) Multimedia In addition to the above A/V solutions, I'll suggest to add: Video: + Cinelerra (HDV editing, packman) + DVD/HDVD/BD Autoring tools (from list *) + DVD/HDVD/BD Burning tools (from list *) *) This is a comprehensiv list to select from http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=32956 2) Media Center LinuxMCE LinuxMCE is often called a platform for developing smart home modules constructed by a variety of open source projects. The integration of these open source projects, such as Xine, Mythtv, and Asterisk, can be found in the LinuxMCE Software Documentation. http://www.linuxmce.com/ http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Main_Page Maybe more or other packages? Terje J. Hansse --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 4 DOS Partition ?
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 24 May '07

24 May '07

Hello, I can't install Alpha 4 on a System with a small (500MB) DOS Partition on /dev/sda1 ? The new installer like to resize the Partition. When I go to manual partitioning I have only EVMS Drives, after reformat the DOS partition to a swap Partition I can install Alpha 4 and I found all my partition in YaST2 Partitioning ? Is this a known Problem ? -- mit freundlichen Grüssen / best Regards Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
by M9. 23 May '07

23 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, We see that the suggestion to create a serious partitioner, like PQ Partition Magic was not so bad at all. I constantly run into problems, because it is much too difficult too change the sizes of existing partitions. Now, one has too back-up his/her home, throw away all partitions, and start all over again. And in the low ram case, one is not even capable to reach the partioner, which is off course not very sane.. More logic would be: Load the files nessesary to create what is needed first, (the room for the system, and i am still convinced, that there are seperate partitions needed, for: /boot,/,/opt,/usr,/var, (and evt /tmp), swap, and /home.) and then, one should be able to change sizes, without having to delete /home. It must be possible to reduce the size of /home, if more room for fi: /boot, /usr, and/or /var is needed. I realy mean that it is totaly anoying, not being able to change your available room, without spending hours to back-up the data you want to save.. I hope it is not too late for 10.3 final, to change this, but this hope might be in vane... I simply can not understand that nobody else finds this nessesary. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUbnlX5/X5X6LpDgRApsrAJ9IerW8gwgNLHAiAWKi2qIRTET93ACg3hcN 51tNTkRPhvZABmIE5+9yzbM= =G5+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE10.3alpha4 installation on power through netboot
by Mohammed Omar 23 May '07

23 May '07

Hi all, I tried to install openSUSE10.3alpha4 on power machine through netboot method. I configured boot server and NFS server in RHEL machine , I installed and configured DHCP: TFTP: followed this link :: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/eserver/library/es-linux-pservers/ind… When i booted the power machine and selected boot via network thru SMS menu.... I got the following error.... BOOTP R=1 BOOTP S=2 FILE: inst64 BOOTP:TFTP transfer failed, re-trying transfer BOOTP ERROR: TFTP of rest of blocks failed, giving up !BA010005 Regards:: -Mohammed Omar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Linux Technology Center MD2-GB-184, Manyata Embassy Outer Ring road, Nagawara Bangalore- 560045, India Phone: +91-80-402-55027 Fax: +91-80-25436902 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
by jdd 23 May '07

23 May '07

You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... the menu.lst of grub is badly rewriten and the previous kernel and initrd are deleted this may be related to a special config.. I have on my drive * hda1 swap * hda2 10.2 * hda3 SLES boot menu was (from memory, it's no more here) floppy 10.2 * (default) SLES new compiled kernel The new grub menu.lst is below (because not anybody needs to read it). It default to floppy boot!!! the sles boots, hopefully! but not the others. vmlinuz and initrd (in /boot) are linked to the compiled kernel 0.3 (not by me!!) so the fix wads simple: shorten the entries of openSUSE 10.2 (/dev/hdc2) but it's a chance the new kernel works (it only allows more usb debugging) jdd (must leav now, will fill a bug later if necessary) default menu.lst # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Tue May 22 13:38:25 CEST 2007 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message ##YaST - activate ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Disquette rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader (fd0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc3 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/hdc1 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: openSUSE 10.2 (/dev/hdc2)### title openSUSE 10.2 (/dev/hdc2) kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/hdc2 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/hdc1 splash=silent showopts initrd (hd0,1)/boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default title 2.6.18.8-0.3-default kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.3-default root=/dev/hdc3 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/hdc1 splash=silent showopts -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] What did you guys do to /etc/fstab?
by M9. 23 May '07

23 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 fstab looks realy horrible! All unnessesary info makes it difficult to see what is what.. (of course i know what is what, but it looks like...terrible..) for ntfs-3g, i had to go to 10.2 repo... Amarok works without libxine1, (which is not to find), thnx!!! (new signature shows Alpha4 btw.) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.21-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Alpha4 KDE: 3.5.6 "release 42" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGU47DX5/X5X6LpDgRAh1GAJ9l/j9jeApNaf1wT3ucgEzmwCoOPACdGWsp Ui07t00YI4w8BxadkPsO7uE= =fAht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Rootmodus not possible from configpanel, in A4.
by M9. 23 May '07

23 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is not possible to get in the root modus to change samba settings, or log-in without password, is this known, or should i file a bug? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.21-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Alpha4 KDE: 3.5.6 "release 42" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGU4xnX5/X5X6LpDgRAmcHAJ0c6L59xw5vVY9WO2+aXfzit79v5QCeJBpJ r26THEm3oaTLCi1fSNLKVUM= =lgln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Installing on SATA HDD with SATA DVD-Burner
by Keith Goggin 22 May '07

22 May '07

Hi list, I have installed openSUSE 10.3 alpha 4 on a SATA2 HDD using a SATA2 DVD-Burner. So far so good. However the mobo has Radeon Xpress 1250 integrated graphics which only runs in framebuffer mode on alpha 4. I would like to exercise the graphics chip in 3D mode but so far there are no opensource drivers for the X1250 and the ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Display Driver 8.36.5 does not yet support X-Org 7.2 found in alpha 4. Now openSUSE 10.2 GM is pre X-Org 7.2 so the Proprietary Driver would probably work there but sadly 10.2 does not support SATA HDDs and SATA Burners :-( Can anyone tell me how to install 10.2 GM with the necessary SATA support? Hardware: ASUS M2A-VM mobo (AMD690G chipset) Athlon 64 X2 4800+ CPU Kingston KVR667D2N5K2/2G (2GB DDR2/667 RAM) 320GB Seagate Barracuda Sata2 HDD Pioneer DVR-212 Sata2 DVD Burner --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Meeting Minutes Dist Meeting 2007-05-10
by Stanislav Brabec 22 May '07

22 May '07

Richard Guenther wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > > Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)suse.cz> writes: > > > > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > > > > >> * Shared library policy > > >> see: http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy > > > 0) Static only packages > > > 1) Packages with some devel files in the main package. > > > > > > If package is static only or package provides devel files (e. g. .pc > > > file) without splitting -devel package, it must provide -devel package, > > > either as a virtual symbol or as a package (by skipping of file list of > > > the main package). > > > > > > Packages linking against the library or referring devel files from the > > > package (e. g. .pc files), must refer to foo-devel, not foo. > > > > > > It allows painless move to shared library and painless splitting in > > > future. > > > > > > Example: > > > package foo with static-only stuff: > > > Provides: %{name}-devel = %{version}-%{release} > > > > > > Real life example: > > > Package check moved from static to shared library after 10.2. > > > Several other packages were splitted. > > > Both raised need to adopt many other packages. > > > > So, what is your objection here? > > I don't get this either. Note the shared libaray naming and packaging > policy is about shared libraries, not static ones or naming a -devel > (or not -devel) package. Yes, but it's related. If package changes from static to shared library and the static package was referenced as libfoo, you are in problem: All BuildRequires are now broken. The second mentioned thing can be re-formulated as a missing item in the policy: Is it allowed to package shared library altogether with development files (.a, .pc, .so, .h)? Is it allowed to package development files to package, which does not have -devel in its name? I think that it should not be permitted, even if it causes bigger number of packages. Otherwise it introduces missing devel dependencies (see below). > Shared libraries may reside in /lib{,64} or /usr/lib{,64} only if > there are development files packages separately in a -devel package to > link against those libraries. See (1) on how to handle different > cases. This looks too strict. There are many packages, which create shared library for more binaries inside one package. What is the benefit to link say metacity binaries with /usr/lib/metacity/libmetacity-private.so.0 instead of /usr/lib/libmetacity-private.so.0? This rule will need additional wirk to change many packages and additional work even to check that all packages conform to this rule. > > > 2) Naming of devel package. > > > So my proposal: > > > > > > Shared library package should be named libgsf1_114, but devel package > > > should be named libgsf1. > > This is exactly what the policy suggests. Where do you read otherwise? > Maybe the wording can be improved. No, it suggests libgsf1_114-devel: If more than one version of a -devel package can be installed at the same time ... the -devel packages should be suffixed with the same number as the shared library package. Proposed change: If more than one version of a -devel package can be installed at the same time ... the -devel packages should be suffixed with the same number as the shared library package. If package provides a pkg-config file or another development configuration script or shared library uses epoch number, the -devel packages should be suffixed with the number of it. > > > If more than one version of a -devel package can be installed at the > > > same time (for example because includes are packaged in a versioned > > > directory and shared libraries have a versioned name like libgtk1.so.1) > > > the -devel packages should be suffixed with the same number as the > > > shared library package, lib$NAME$NUM-devel. > > I see this is a quote from the policy. The wording needs to improve here > as $NUM does not suggest a suffix different from $SONAME is allowed. But it's already part of the policy, last article "Package Naming". Andreas Jaeger wrote: > There is not yet any tool for automatic collecting of devel > > dependencies, but I am thinking about a tool collecting packages > > from .pc files and #include. > > > > Preferred way to do it: > > Requires: %{name} = %{version} > > And how can we get rid of these later again? We currently have a lot of > packages with too many dependencies ;-( We need an automatic tool for it. Missing devel dependencies introduces additional BuildRequires in other packages which are even worse to get rid. It is definitely not complicated for .pc files, but more complicated for .la files and .h files. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Meeting Minutes Dist Meeting 2007-05-10
by Andreas Jaeger 22 May '07

22 May '07

Here're the minutes from the last meeting, Andreas * dbus restart Restarting of d-bus needs special handling in every package, otherwise they might crash. Upstream d-bus maintainer currently say that d-bus should not get restarted. The long-term goal is that all applications and services should handle d-bus restarts gracefully. For the short term, we will advice the user to reboot the system and not automatically restart d-bus during package updates. * Moving d-bus to / This is need for some potential changes in hal. Since we did not have enough details, we decided to stay for now with the default and rediscuss when needed. * Shared library policy see: http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy If nobody raises objections, we'll move forward with it and add it to the packagers manual. Note: This is not enforced for existing packages. It should be done for major updates and must be done for new package submissions. AI: everybody to read and comment on opensuse-packaging mailing list. * Improve debuginfo packages To get a complete stack trace, we need several debuginfo packages. The simple idea would be to copy dependencies from the main package to the debuginfo package. But this would give too many dependencies since it would lead to include always the gcc-debuginfo package (currently 300 MB). Another idea is to reduce the size of debuginfo packages and mark them only for backtrace - with removing the source code. We run out of time and will discuss this further next time. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Topics dist meeting 2007-05-10
by Andreas Jaeger 22 May '07

22 May '07

We'd like to discuss the following topics tomorrow. Please send your comments and suggestions as usual so that I can represent them. thanks, Andrea * Smaller systems - what can be done? Goal: A system with 128 MB of space. Challenges are especially: * Languages and localization * documentation - > some packages have documentation split up already * theming -> some packages will be split up so that only one theme is in a package. For languages we discussed previously already the following and will implement this now: The idea is to add to spec file of packages a new rpm macro so that subpackages are created and then related subpackages are repacked for each language in our build system. This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and those can then be installed. * Shared library policy (posted some time ago on opensuse-packaging, is now in the wiki) * dbus restart Making dbus a special reboot case like the kernel when updating (like other distros - dbus is really not supposed to be restarted). -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
by Lars Rupp 22 May '07

22 May '07

BTW: http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=CrossToolchain%3Amingw speziell: cross-mingw-gcc "GCC cross-compiler for Windows targets This is the standard GCC, modified for use in cross-development. The GNU compiler collection only supports cross-compilation in C and C++, so those are the only two languages prepared. It is intended for people who want to develop for a Windows target from your desktop computer." => /opt/cross/bin/i386-mingw32msvc-gcc -o foobar.exe foobar.c --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] VJ decompression error
by Juan Erbes 22 May '07

22 May '07

After a problems with my ISP (Timofonica), I must to go back to my old 56k sporster Robotics and my older ISP (in the absense of adsl), but I has frequently disconnections problems with it. The dmesg result is: SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT-INV IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.189.244.228 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=457 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=52 ID=13266 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=27556 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A6A887173000C7C18) PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=221.208.208.86 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=486 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=49 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=55888 DPT=1026 LEN=466 PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT-INV IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.189.244.228 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=457 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=52 ID=13931 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=27556 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A6A888A73000C7C18) SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=221.208.208.96 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=486 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=49 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=47166 DPT=1026 LEN=466 PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error Regards --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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