September 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
by Andreas Jaeger 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi, during one of our IRC meetings, I've been asked to discuss the size of our core distribution. I'm appending the list below and would like to hear your concrete suggestions. Some of the packages are needed by dependencies, we could split some packages into separate (optional) patterns, Andreas Required (must have): aaa_base aaa_skel acl ash attr audit-libs autoyast2 autoyast2-installation autoyast2-utils bash bzip2 checkmedia coreutils cpio cpp cracklib cups-client cups-libs curl cyrus-sasl cyrus-sasl-saslauthd db db-utils dbus-1 device-mapper diffutils e2fsprogs ed eject ethtool evms file filesystem fillup findutils glibc gnome-icon-theme grep groff gzip hwinfo insserv iproute2 iptables iputils kbd klogd krb5 ksymoops ldapcpplib less libacl libattr libcap libcom_err libgcc libnscd libxcrypt liby2util libzypp limal limal-bootloader limal-perl logrotate lvm2 m4 mailx make mdadm mingetty mkinitrd mkisofs mktemp module-init-tools multipath-tools ncurses net-tools netcfg openssh openssl pam pam-config pam-modules parted perl permissions procps psmisc pwdutils reiserfs rpm sed openSUSE-release suse-build-key sysconfig sysfsutils syslog-ng sysvinit tar tcpd util-linux vim w3m wget yast2 yast2-bootloader yast2-core yast2-country yast2-dhcp-server yast2-dns-server yast2-firewall yast2-hardware-detection yast2-installation yast2-instserver yast2-ldap yast2-ldap-client yast2-mail-aliases yast2-mouse yast2-ncurses yast2-network yast2-nfs-client yast2-nfs-server yast2-nis-client yast2-nis-server yast2-ntp-client yast2-online-update yast2-online-update-frontend yast2-packager yast2-pam yast2-perl-bindings yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-printer yast2-runlevel yast2-samba-client yast2-samba-server yast2-schema yast2-security yast2-storage yast2-storage-lib yast2-support yast2-sysconfig yast2-tftp-server yast2-theme-SuSELinux yast2-transfer yast2-tune yast2-update yast2-users yast2-xml zlib #ifdef __ia64__ elilo efibootmgr ia32el #endif #if defined(__i386__) || defined (__x86_64__) microcode_ctl grub lilo #endif #ifdef __powerpc__ lilo #endif Recommended (should have): qlogic-firmware OpenIPMI SuSEfirewall2 acpid at autofs bc bind-libs bind-utils binutils blocxx bootcycle bootsplash bootsplash-theme-SuSE compat compat-libstdc++ compat-openssl097g convmv cpufrequtils cron dbus-1-glib delayacct-utils deltarpm dhcpcd dmraid dos2unix dosfstools expat fbset finger freetype2 gawk gdb gdbm gettext glib2 glibc-i18ndata glibc-locale gnome-filesystem gpart gpg gpm hal hdparm hfsutils ifplugd info initviocons ipmitool ivman jfsutils joe ksh libevent libgcrypt libgpg-error libgssapi libidn libjpeg liblcms libmng libpcap libpfm libpng librpcsecgss libstdc++ libtiff libtool libusb libxml2 libxslt libzio linux32 log4net lsof lukemftp man man-pages master-boot-code mcelog mono-core mono-data mono-web mpt-status netcat nfs-utils nfsidmap nscd ntfsprogs numactl openct openldap2-client opensc openslp openslp-server patch pax pciutils pcre pcsc-lite pdisk pfmon pmtools popt portmap postfix powerpc32 powersave powersave-libs ppp pptp prctl procinfo procmail providers readline recode release-notes resmgr rsh rsync rug salinfo sash scpm screen scsi sharutils siga smartmontools smpppd sqlite star strace sudo suseRegister suspend syslinux tcpdump tcsh telnet terminfo timezone udev unzip usbutils utempter vlan wireless-tools wol wvdial wvstreams xfsprogs xinetd xntp yast2-backup yast2-boot-server yast2-bootfloppy yast2-cd-creator yast2-heartbeat yast2-http-server yast2-inetd yast2-irda yast2-iscsi-client yast2-iscsi-server yast2-kerberos-client yast2-mail yast2-power-management yast2-powertweak yast2-profile-manager yast2-repair yast2-restore yast2-slp yast2-slp-server yast2-vm yp-tools ypbind zip zisofs-tools zmd zsh Suggested (optional): exim sendmail Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] y2pmsh dropped from Factory?
by Andreas Hanke 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hi, I have not been able to find y2pmsh in Factory for at least a few days. Has it been dropped? Or is that just a temporary Factory brokenness? Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 4 install
by Keith Goggin 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hello all, Some issues I encountered on an Athlon XP 2600+ 1. USB mouse problem described by others 2.Philips 107P4 detected as 15 inch not 17 inch 3.Epson CX5300 not detected -error message: USB bus not properly configured 4.After install 18 software updates shown as available but would not install -error message:Dependancy resolution failed 5.Kerry Beagle with search string 'SUSE Linux' within 'everything' found 65 hits, many of which may be 'branding errors' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Hacking SuSE installation process.
by Samuel 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

El Lunes, 14 de Agosto de 2006 06:26, escribió: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:04 pm, Samuel Partida wrote: > > Now i'm interested on knowing the procedure > > for the creation of the images that linuxrc loads > > (root, rescue, etc...) because we want to > > hack on the installation and boot processes. > > The temporary root-disk-image "initrd" > is built by the "mkinitrd" script. > > I dug a bit into it, enough to create a custom "initrd" > with scripts that allow a new cluster node to build itself during boot. > It does this by cloning a model system with identical hardware. > So I call it "cloneboot". > > Start by running mkinitrd with the -R option. > Then you can mount the resulting image with: > > root> mount -t ext2 -o loop initrd /mnt > root> cd /mnt > root> ls -la > etc. > > If this is close to what you want to do ask some questions, > or just let me know and I'll send you my scripts. > > michaelj Hi Michael, excuse my late answer, I was on vacations :) I see that what you have is a script for creating the initial ram disk (initrd), but that's not what I need. The problem is when the initrd switches to the "root" disk image. The initrd loads the linuxrc program (the first suse installation program), and next it loads the root disk image (or rescue image if you have selected it), then, it starts Yast installation from the root disk image. What i'm looking for are the steps on creating a customized root disk, but there is no documentation yet as it was said to me by a SuSE developer. If you are interested on going beyond the initrd like me, we can hack around the root image to find the glue between linuxrc and yast installation :) Very thanks for your interest :) See you! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] economic disadvantage of closed-source software and patents
by Mashilamani Sambasivam 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hello, I just wanted to get suse developers' viewpoints on 10 slides: Brief Analysis And Generalisation of Closed-Source Software Business Models to All Maximum Profit Based Businesses http://www.archive.org/download/profitAndPoverty/slide1.html Thanks, Mashi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] evolution 2.8.0
by Andreas 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hi yall, I have some probs with evolution 2.8.0 (I just installed Alpha 4): * Evolution does not remember the passwords for my various email accounts (pop/smtp), although the option is checked. * The main window (the one that lists the emails in the different folders) is blank. I can see that evolution downloaded the emails because it shows that i have unread mails. In gnome the emails actually show up. * When started in gnome, evolution crashes when I want to create a new (pop)email account. Does anyone else experience this behaviour? Oh, and does anyone know how I can get window decorations like a titlebar in gnome? Right now i can't move or resize any application window. -- TIA Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] smart-gui on openSUSE 10.2 a3
by Chema Ollés 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: I just install the new oS.10.2 a3 (is it correct? openSUSE is so long for me ;-) ) and smart and smart-gui packages. With smart I have no problem,with smart --gui option I obtain this error message: System has no support for gtk python interface. Any help? Regards - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.16.21-2-smp #1 SMP Wed Jul 5 17:47:38 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE/vzT65SpD7GhbzoRAgp0AJ0acLDDFKEbWfOWIp2MdihXEWBlOgCgw9RI JOQM8vKGNHDAifzFpTPmDJg= =3M4H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Followup to 10.2A4 install
by Kenneth Schneider 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

The software updater has 19 packages to update but not all of the packages listed for update are installed. Why does it want to update packages that are not installed? After un-selecting the packages and continuing the updater wants to install packages from the install media (in this case CD's as I cannot read any DVD's anymore) I only get an error that a package cannot be installed from the install device, in this case /dev/hdc. So I pop the first CD into the drive start over with the update and some packages are installed but when another CD is required all I get is the same error message the the package cannot be found on the install media (/dev/hdc). Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 a4 install reviewed
by Azerion 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Welcome welcome, as some of you all may know I am very interested in the installation of openSUSE. Big changes won't happen for 10.2 but I saw some things that prabably are easy to change. I also found a bug that I will report after I clicked "send". No more bla bla, let's go! 1.] If you check the chechbox for addons and you add the addon-cd, the actual addon's are not shown in a patterngroup. That is not weird cause there is no natural pattern between the packages from the Addon-cd but people do not download the CD for fun. They download it because of Acrobat, Flash and some more. The problem is that with the behavior from the installer at this moment Flash for example is not checked and you can only find it by search or bij Installation-source. To bad....people will expect it to be installed. 2.] Please show after the restart a window/message in the mainwindow that you have to wait. At this moment you see only the mouse-loading-icon and that stopped. I am no noob so I checked top right away, but people will think that the install hangs cause we are used to have the mouse not freezed when a progam does. So only top was my indication that everything was fine. 3.] This is pure image-building. The screen from the installation is too 'busy'. I have talked about it at this ML and I know there won't be big changes as I said earlier, but small things can change a lot. This is only about the "Package Installation:-screen cause that was the moment I checkd the interface, but I guess some point can be applied to all the screens without trouble. - remove the line under Package Installation. We can live without it cause the title is far above the rest so no splitter is needed. - connect the tabs to the inner-screen. At this moment they hover above it so there is a line between the tabs and the inner-screen. Everything seems much slicker when that splitline is gone. - remove the border around the slide. It is just another border and it does not make sens at all. Borders should only be used to 'order' things if without borders it would be a mess. Trust me, I can see the diference between the progress-bar and the slidetext without being confused :P - Make the inner-screen a bit more colored or a little bit lighter. At thos moment it is spartanian in the same color as the rest of the screen. It looks awful. - Some more comments about the slides but that will come some other day. I think that the presentation is going to show at more CD's then only at CD1 so there will be a discussion about that anyway. 4.] Just a little point but the theme have to be changed anyway I think (cause of those tabs). If there is a little message-window it does have some lines in the border. Probably to show that the window can be rezised but it looks weird if there is a little window where all those stripes are 2cm from their neigbours. So, that was it. I know I am a crybaby :P but I think those little things will make the YaST-installer much slicker and it seems to be really small things to change. I will report point 2 to Bugzilla and another bug (mouting crypted disk gives an error when checked as "not mount at boot", if you first mount and the check it it is fine). Have a nice day Azerion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
by Andreas Jaeger 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Michael Löffler is currently on vacation and asked me to discuss the following, it's based on his latest draft. All errors are mine naturally ;-) The upcoming openSUSE 10.2 will basically have similar content like its predecessor but comes of course with latest and stable Open Source packages available at that time. We went through Bugzilla, the feature list and package wishlist and try to accomodate your wishes and suggestions. Note that the list below is neither complete - it's just some of the highlights - nor a commitment. Here an overview about areas we like to enhance, change or add things: System & Software Management - Performance enhancements with software management rug, libzypp - Support hardware with SW-RAID support in BIOS - Biometrical authentification - X.org 11R7.1 - Kernel 2.6.18 - install local rpm(s) with dependency checking and to register directory as YaST source, Bug 174369, 168358 - add a button to YaST/zen-installer to add interesting installation sources like freshmeat, sourceforge, packman etc. - SUSEfirewall2, description of the ports and and ability to open or close ports - Moving from software selections to patterns as grouping of packages Desktop & Productivity Software - Gnome 2.16, with new menue out of SUSE Linux Enterprise - KDE 3.5.4 , with polished menue - adding VoIP solution Ekiga (formely known Gnome Meeting), Bug 147517 - support for rt2500 wlan card, Bug 149141 - add Intels 3D open source driver - adding Broadcom WLAN support Commercial software - adding Wink, software for creating video tutorials and export them to flash, http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ (free software, available for Linux as well) - GoogleEarth, we try to get redistribution rights from Google Please give feedback and of course if there's something missing - tell us. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Schedule openSUSE 10.2 Here's the openSUSE 10.2 schedule as aligned with holidays, other deliverables etc. I'm always writing the dates of the planned public releases and what I associate with the milestones. I'll further refine the milestones a bit to define which changes are allowed until which time. We have staged freezes which means that the first packages will be feature frozen with Alpha5 - the last ones shortly after Beta1. Note, below are the public dates for the *release*, the package submission deadlines are a couple of days earlier and not added. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Oct 05 openSUSE 10.2 Alpha5 release - installation, toolchain, component, crypto freeze * Milestone: Toolchain, installation workflow are feature frozen * Milestone: Packages containing cryptographic routines are frozen * Milestone: First round for software translation * Milestone: Component freeze: Major updates and addition of subsystems finished. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Oct 19 openSUSE 10.2 Alpha5+ release (internal) * Milestone: Documentation deadline, proofing starts * Milestone: Feature and version freeze for the base system * Milestone: Kernel and install works on most targeted machines. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, Oct 20 * Milestone: First round of software translation finished. * Packagers start integration translations into packages for Beta1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Oct 26 openSUSE 10.2 Beta1 release (feature complete) * Milestone: Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception: patchlevel update of leaf packages until Nov 4) * Milestone: First localized build * Milestone: Complete string freeze * Milestone: All features are coding and function complete. * Milestone: Kernel and install works on all targeted machines. * Milestone: Last round of software translation starts ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, Nov 4 - 1pm CET * Milestone: Final round of software translation finished. * Packagers start integration translations into packages for Beta2 * Milestone: Patchlevel update of leaf packages finished. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Nov 9 openSUSE 10.2 Beta2 release * Milestone: Fully localized build * Milestone: Localization testing starts * Milestone: Only major/critical/blocker bugfixes allowed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, Nov 17 - 1pm CET * Milestone: Fixes found during localization testing returned. * Packagers start integration translations into packages for RC1 * Milestone: Only blocker bugfixes allowed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Nov 23 openSUSE 10.2 RC1 release * Milestone: All blocker bugs resolved. * Milestone: All documentation available (English only). * Milestone: Last fixes for localization found during testing incorporated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Nov 30 openSUSE 10.2 GM release * Only showstopper and security bugfixes get integrated. * Milestone: All documentation available (translations also). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, Dec 7 openSUSE 10.2 public release * Release on the ftp server Michael & Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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