July 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: Why evaluating package run every time?
by The Nice Spider 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

here i describe in these steps below (sorry, hard to explain, easy to show you the steps) : 1. on installation, choose Gnome 2. now you're waiting for suse to Evaluating Package ... hmmm... takes >30 seconds!!! 3. choose Change - Parttition 4. after finishing work with parttion, then when you back to the Installation then Evaluating Package RUN AGAIN. why? i don't make any changing in Package Selection, this only make me wait another > 30 seconds. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: BUG or Feature? Can't replace destructive CD!
by The Nice Spider 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

When some file on CD installation was damage then the installation STOP anymore. You can not press the Eject button, even point to other media. In Windows (sorry for who hate this OS, this is for example only), when installtion come to damage file then: 1. you can eject the cd and replace with good one 2. you can point to other media such as any drive that contain the good one, a floopy disk, or other cd drive attach to the pc. can you improve opensuse with this feature? the check cd feature is not a good solution and take too longer time to test every cd! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: BUG OR FEATURE? You can by pass SF2!
by The Nice Spider 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Using SF2 v3.3 on Suse 10.2 alpha2: - squid on port 8080 with all local client can access internet - SF2: set fw_masq_nets="192.168.0.1" #only this pc can access internet (rule A) - SF2: set to redirect port 80 to 8080 #this is define after fw_masq_nets (rule B) - but... now every client on LAN can access because of the redirecting port Question: - how to make Order in sf2, like: rule B must be apply after A? - how to solve above problem? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2
by Andreas Jaeger 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Currently in SUSE Linux 10.1 (and earlier releases) we use selections in YaST to group software and easily enable installation of related software. Our developers have enhanced the concept of selections and call it patterns. What are patterns? * patterns include a list of software packages to install * the list of software packages contains packages that are - required (must-have) - recommended (should-have) - suggested (may-have) * Patterns define a functionality the system should have. They do this by either directly naming required packages or by grouping of sub-patterns, or a combination thereof. This partitions the huge list of installed rpms into building blocks which can be combined (almost) at will. By listing each and every rpm in a (ideally: exactly one) pattern, this related rpms to functionalities. This in turn finally gives an answer to the often asked question: "Why is this package installed ?" * in the future we like to drive workflow with patterns as well, e.g. if you select the (imaginary) LDAP server pattern, the LDAP configuration workflow will be called during installation. * Patterns can be grouped into roles, like "Development" or "Desktop". * Patterns can require other patterns They have the same set of (possible) dependencies as packages have. So they can also obsolete (replace) or conflict other patterns. Or have language dependencies, etc. * Add-on products can have additional patterns * Patterns can be differentiated between top-level/user-visible and internal/non-user-visible patterns (a pattern might require others that are not visible) - these are implementation details of the patterns. Directly after 10.2 Alpha2, I'd like to switch to patterns. Instead of simply rewriting the existing selections to patterns, I would like to start basically from scratch and define with you which patterns we should have. Currently we have the following selections: * Graphical Base System * KDE Desktop Environment * All of KDE * GNOME System * Help and Support Documentation * Office Applications * Games * Multimedia * Voice over IP * Xen Virtualization * Simple Web Server with Apache2 * LDAP Server and Tools * Network and Server * Laptop * Mobile Computing * C/C++ Compiler and Tools * Kernel Development * KDE Development * GNOME Development * Tcl/Tk Development System * Java * Experienced User * LaTeX, SGML and XML * Fonts * Mono/CLR * Non-Open Source Packages As a first step for discussion I propose these roles and patterns: * Graphical Environments - GNOME Desktop Environment - KDE Desktop Environment - X Window System (with fvwm2) * Base Technologies - Base System (always installed) - AppArmor - Xen Virtual Machine Host Server * Development - C/C++ Compiler and Tools - GNOME Development - KDE/QT3 Development - Qt 4 Development - Linux Kernel Development - Version Control Systems * Primary Functions - File Server - Print Server - Mail and News Server - Web and LAMP Server - Internet Gateway - DHCP and DNS Server - Directory (LDAP) Server This misses some of the selections and introduces new ones. This is really a first step for discussion. I would like you to come up with better high-level proposals! Let's not discuss "we need this pattern as well" - but let's discuss and agree on the general framework and then let's discuss adding further patterns. Btw. we have a nice way of adding new, third-party patterns: Basically all you need is to have a lightweight add-on product that only has patterns, but no RPMs. So one could create his or her favourite package collections and make them available as an add-on source. Every repository can add patterns. Btw. I've put the above on the wiki at: http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Unmantained package ladspa
by Juan Erbes 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

>From 3 mohnts ago, I could'nt use audacity because with any version (1.24b, 1.3 beta, 1.3.1beta cvs), it hangs (precompiled or compiled by me). The last weekend, I debuguing it with ddd and gdb, and I found that the hang comes with triangle librarie from the ladspa plugins. Then I recompiled audacity without ladspa, and it not hangs any more. I tryed to compile ladspa, but I found that the last version is from dec 2002 (version 1.15), and the version compiled by suse, is 1.12. Then, i mean that this package are unmantained. Thanks

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[opensuse-factory] Public YOU testing / Broken YOUs + avoiding them
by Andreas Hanke 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Hi, I'm currently a little bit disappointed of https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=192743 and its duplicate https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=193996 which is caused by a broken YOU for SUSE Linux 10.0. The background and a fix are available at http://people.opera.com/eddy/YaST/ReadMe.html and the bug is a frustrating one since I know some people who stuck with 10.0 because installing RPMs with YaST from Konqueror is not possible in 10.1, and now after this YOU it's broken for 10.0 as well. More generally, I'd like to know if it would be possible to do public tests for *all* YOUs (maybe except not-yet-disclosed security fixes). We had it in the past for a subset of selected packages like the libzypp and kernel YOUs, and it worked quite well so far. I remember some problematic YOUs in the past and now I just wonder if a different testing approach might eventually help improving the situation. The Fedora project seems to have a similar approach that could be used to borrow ideas from. Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] installer problem:
by Peter Czanik 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

Hello, rsync-ed this morning, I wanted to install factory on PPC. It does not work: *** Starting YaST2 *** Error loading language plugin /usr/lib/YaST2/plugin/lybpy2lang_perl.so: libsqlite2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory No such client module installation Run 'yast2 -h' for help on usage Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: how to parse suse/setup/desc/packages
by James Li 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

I have remove some packages from suse 10.1 , and create suse/setup/descr/packages file. How to parse this file to find the indenpency problem?

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SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: SF2 Script with multiline and commenting line
by The Nice Spider 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Kuhlmann" <hidden(a)paradise.net.nz> To: <opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: SF2 Script with multiline and commenting line >> FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="80" #this is http >> FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="443" #this is https >> FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="21" #this is ftp fro Mr.A and B >> >> currently i must type this in sf2: >> FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="80 443 21" >> >> current scripts syntax difficult for large network >> with customize ports >> service for any clients. > > It's just bash variable assignments, and I don't see a problem. Run sed > to modify the variable settings, or if you create the whole thing > automatically by a method of your choice, have that method create the > whole file (and you woulnd't need to keep the comments). > > SuSEfirewall2 is more powerful and easier to use than a lot of the > firewall GUI stuff I've seen. > > In your example, you could write > > FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP=" > 80 > 443 > 21 > " > > or > > FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP= > FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="$FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP 80" > FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="$FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP 443" > FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="$FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP 21" > > if you wanted to. Don't necessarily expect yast to still be able to > handle it then though. > > Volker > oo... thanks for the last tip, that's what i really needed! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SPAM: SF2 Script with multiline and commenting line
by The Nice Spider 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

What offers t SF2 is very2 good but lack these feature: - able to enter multiline with additionak comment Look at configuration of Squid, with the "squid" syntax script i can write like this: FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="80" #this is http FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="443" #this is https FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="21" #this is ftp fro Mr.A and B currently i must type this in sf2: FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP="80 443 21" current scripts syntax difficult for large network with customize ports service for any clients. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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