openSUSE GNOME October 2007

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[opensuse-gnome] package\selector small UI change proposal
by Martin Szulecki 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

I have another proposal for small changes to the UI. Would it be possible to implement something like this for the package selector? http://sukimashita.com/temp/yast2-gtk-package-selector-1.gif Similar for the categories (the themes have icons available) and perhaps the patterns (although it might be hard to retrieve a correct pattern<->icon mapping). One last thing I am missing is the ability to filter based on "Packages for Upgrade", "Normal Packages Packages", "To be Deleted", "To be Installed" etc. to for instance somehow be able to only list the packages that can be upgraded to abuse this as a selective upgrade tool. However, feeling the need for above might aswell just be the result of opensuse-updater failing to give me any hint (even a "Details" would be sufficient; the current only lists official updates) at which packages it would update when I click OK. The biggest issue are cross-vendor updates which can screw up stuff, which might be solved with a new checkbox for preferences and enabled by default? I'd be willing to supply patches if that looks ok to implement. --- Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Default Desktop Setup
by JP Rosevear 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I slotted a few items in: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Desktop_Policy If there are more items people care about for default config, please add them. We'll use this to record future decisions (referencing bug numbers, etc) so that we remember why we made these changes :-). -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Some comment on openSUSE 10.3 and GNOME after a month from release
by Alberto Passalacqua 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

It's almost a month openSUSE 10.3 was released, and having used it since the beginning, I think it's time for some comment about the distribution in general and on my favourite desktop environment, GNOME, in particular. It's a bit long, but well, I hope not too boring ;-) About the distribution, great improvements were obtained concerning boot time and the package manager, which is now in a usable, even though not perfect state. The new media selection made the distribution more accessible, thanks to the 1 CD installation, and the 1 click install significantly simplified the installation procedure. All these new features improved the user experience a lot, left me quite impressed, and increased the interest in the distribution thanks also to the new communication medium represented by news.opensuse.org. However, these very positive elements, which I think puts 10.3 at a good distance from 10.2, are somewhat reduced in their importance but issues caused mainly by lack of attention and care in details after the release. I'm mainly thinking to: * The release of broken java packages, which are now somewhat fixed on systems which didn't install the broken patch, leaving others to fix it manually. * Issues with kernel upgrades and nvidia drivers kmp's, reported on IRC and forums by some user. * The, in my opinion wrong, choice to prepare a kmp with the newest ATI driver, which doesn't support older cards, without adopting a solution as nvidia did. About GNOME, I was initially positively impressed by GNOME in openSUSE 10.3 for various positive elements brought in this release, such as the new updater applet and YaST-GTK which provide a better integration between classical SUSE features and the GNOME desktop environment. These things, together with the fresher look due to the green artwork, the main menu and the international clock taken from SLED SP1, are great improvements and improved the impression openSUSE 10.3 had on the public. However, after almost a month I use openSUSE, I think there are still major issues, which might prevent users to use it, and should be fixed soon. Here is some example, but a simple search in bugzilla list all of them. * Using GNOME after the first login/logout is annoying or impossible because: * The launchers in main-menu are slow or not responding at all (The standard menu is working). * YaST has similar issues to main-menu. Modules do not start or start after a long delay since when clicked. * Logout/shutdown functionalities are not working anymore and suspend/standby buttons are grayed out. * There are lacking dependencies for applets, like the deskbar (Bug 328912, reported before release) or others, for which a patch still has to come (python dependency lacks), while the bug, reported in beta 2, is marked as fixed in bugzilla. * Anjuta is obsolete (Provided version 1.2.4a - Available version 2.2.2), and the provided version starts up with 3 error messages. The bug was reported in beta 2 and was fixed in GNOME:STABLE, upgrading to 2.2.2, but a patch still has to come. * Evolution crashes when doing common operations like selecting contacts category (Bug 335546), has issues with Exchange (Bug 328149, found before release), and lacks of some of the most published features of GNOME 2.20, as the backup feature (Bug 331752). * Gedit is compiled without python support (Bug 299546), while it has python support on other distributions (read Fedora, to cite one). * Bug-buddy is dumbed down, without the possibility of reporting bugs (Bug 307860, reported in beta 2). I think bug reporters and testers did their job during the development stage, the bug slashing weekend and the community contribution to 10.3 were probably the biggest since the birth of the project. As a consequence, I think some more effort to fix at least the most annoying bugs, some more care in trying patches even with the cooperation of the community, and a somewhat less restrictive approach to patch releases (we are at "only security stuff" now) should be really considered. P.S. Sorry for the cross-post on gnome and factory :-) With kind regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Meeting Thursday Nov 1 at ** 12:00 UTC (13:00 CET) **
by JP Rosevear 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Greetings GNOME/openSUSE lovers, the GNOME team will be holding its next meeting this Thursday at 12:00 UTC (13:00 CET). Please note this is our once monthly time shift to accomodate participation in Asia and Australia. Confused? Try: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=01&month=11&year=2… In general we follow the project meeting guidelines: (http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About) outlined for the openSUSE project, except we use #opensuse-gnome as the IRC channel. Please add agenda items and questions to the meeting page. The week we will be experimenting with grouping hardcore development items at the end and having regular Q&A before that as well as setting time limits for each discussion point. Last meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20071025 Next meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20071101 Calendar of all meetings: webcal://news.opensuse.org/?ec3_ical Meeting info: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings Tasks: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Bug plan, almost version 1.0
by Federico Mena Quintero 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Hi, everyone! I've been working on our wiki page that describes the bug plan for GNOME and other desktop-ish things: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Bugs The meat of the page starts in the "Policy for bug triaging" section. Before that, there are the actual links to the bug lists which we will use in daily work --- they appear first in the page for that reason. I think the bug policy is pretty much good to go, but of course I'd love to hear your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Federico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] proposed packages for GNOME:Community
by Michael Wolf 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Yo I have some packages that I'd like to propose for inclusion in GNOME:Community. All of them are available in home:maw, in most cases for 10.3 and up. alexandria: A book-cataloging application. Requires ruby-gnome2 and ruby-amazon (which should make its way into the ruby project eventually), among other things. (NB: This package is still kind of broken, as munkii has reported on IRC. I'm working on it.) ruby-gnome2: ruby bindings for GNOME. I didn't make this package -- jkress did. I think that it should ultimately live in either the ruby project or the GNOME:Community project, but I'm not sure which. Thoughts? Either way, we can assume one will link to the other. giggle: A gtk+ frontend for git. jokosher: An audio recording application. On 10.3, it requires a questionable package: alsa-python, also available in my project. It also requires gstreamer010-gnolin, which is available in my project, and should soon make its way to Factory as well. verbiste: A simple tool to conjugate French verbs, and find the infinitives of already-conjugated verbs. It looks like it would be relatively simple to extend it to conjugate verbs in other languages (at least some other European ones), FWIW. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] a simple package, documented
by Michael Wolf 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hey, I just finished up the first version of http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Packaging/Simple_program_package , which documents a simple yet reasonably complete .spec file. Comments or fixes are welcome. BTW, I will be creating a similar page but for a GNOME library -- any suggestions for which one to use? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Patch review needed for compiz-gnome (awk script stuff)
by Boyd Timothy 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Any "awk" experts around here? I believe I've fixed the problem, but it'd be nice to get a second opinion on my patch (attached to the bug): https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=335445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Sabayon and Education project
by James Tremblay 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hey Guys, Thanks for getting Sabayon to work in 10.3. I have a question, is the "details" button supposed to do something? James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Brasero vs Nautilus Cd tools
by James Tremblay 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hello, Would it\ is it possible to add to the "Preferred Applications" module the choice between Brasero and Nautilus cd tools? Shouldn't this module be used whenever there are two choices to perform system functions? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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