Thought it would be a good idea to gather up praise and criticism for
the past and present so I added:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Reviews
Please add GNOME mentioning reviews as you find them.
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Hello
As you all know, we've been discussing how to best maintain and
utilize the GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE projects.
We discussed this in the past meeting. The relevant part of the
transcript is here:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20070927/transcript#GNOME:STABLE_merg…
Here's my plan. Note that it's different from what I said in the
meeting; after further thought and discussion with a few people, I've
changed my opinion on how best to proceed.
* GNOME:STABLE
We'll repopulate GNOME:STABLE with the contents of the relevant
packages as they currently exist in Factory. As a result,
GNOME:STABLE will soon include GNOME 2.20.0.
Because we'll be upgrading GNOME:STABLE to 2.20.1 soon (20071017),
we'll be copying packages, not linking them.
* GNOME:UNSTABLE
We'll also repopulate GNOME:UNSTABLE with the contents of the
revelant packages as they currently exist in Factory. However, the
future of this repository will be different. When GNOME 21 comes
out, we'll be tracking it closely.
At the same time, we'll stop directly updating the GNOME packages
directly in Factory. Instead, packages from GNOME:UNSTABLE will be
(automatically, I hope) synced to Factory on a regular basis.
Tarballs for GNOME 21.1 are due on 20071029, so we'll start updating
it then, but we can start improving our .specs as discussed in
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches sooner than that.
* Timeline
** GNOME:STABLE update
I intend to start updating it on Thursday, 20071011.
** GNOME:UNSTABLE update
Since GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE will for a time contain the
same packages, I plan to do this at the same time as the
GNOME:STABLE update.
* Issues and Questions
** Workflow
Doing our ongoing development in GNOME:UNSTABLE will make it easier
for anyone interested in contributing to do so.
There will be some hitches for people who work for Novell/SUSE and
use the internal autobuild system. Expect a different mail to
address that soon. Its main thrust will be asking everyone to
submit fixes to GNOME packages via the Build Service once
GNOME:UNSTABLE has been updated.
** GNOME:ALMOST-STABLE?
When will we update GNOME:STABLE to 2.22.0? Only when GNOME 2.22.0
is released? When GNOME 2.21.90 is released? Etc.
** Security
We'll need help from the SUSE security team in preparing security
updates. I've already sent mail to Marcus, the security team lead,
about this.
** Other problems / questions / suggestions?
Let me and the rest of the list know.
I'd like to stress how important the GNOME:UNSTABLE repository will
be for all of us. As I said above, anyone interested in shaping our
corner of the distro will have the opportunity to do so directly. You
won't be limited to sending patches or making suggestions -- although
contributions in this form will of course always be welcome.
Additionally, since GNOME:UNSTABLE will be available for older
distros (at least on 10.3), it'll be possible to run an experimental
desktop without the risk and hassle of of an entire distribution under
development.
I think that's it. Let the list know what you have to say.
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>Okay, I've reposted new RPMS in the same location:
>
>http://151.155.4.222/opensuse-10.3/
>
>sudo rpm -e yast2-gtk (do this first because the version hasn't changed)
>
>The patterns, categories, etc. should all be working now. Please let
>me know if you discover otherwise.
>
>Cheers,
>
>-Boyd
>
The patterns lets you install individual packages from patterns, but in Qt, it lets you select a pattern and automatically select the packages from that pattern that are installed by default.
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Wiki Status:
- Better organisation of GNOME-related wiki content
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME)
- People can help on any task
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks)
- Vote for this bug ->
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325753
- People add themselves to http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_Team
Patch upstreaming:
- OSC plugins to help manage patches (osc-plugins-gnome):
- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/maw/
- Rodrigo's branch:
http://www.gnome.org/~rodrigo/git/osc-plugins.git
- Michael's branch:
http://primates.ximian.com/~maw/git/osc-plugins
- We're going to force annotation on patches for a better
organisation
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches
**** AI: add info about these plugins to the wiki
Bug plan:
- Important bugs to be fixed at
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Bugs
- Use topics to fix bugs related to them, like
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Multiscreen
- Use voting system in Bugzilla to know what bugs openSUSE
community wants fixed
- Policy for when upstreaming bugs
GNOME:Community policy status:
- Clear policy for what should be in GNOME:Community
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Community_Inclusion_Policy)
- Need specific GNOME packaging guidelines, templates in the
build service
**** AI check if the build service can have GNOME templates or write a
OSC plugin that creates the basic spec with all the goodies
GNOME:STABLE merge status:
- Link packages from G:S to FACTORY
- What to do with GNOME:UNSTABLE?
Features requests and mini-projects
- We need a good way for getting feature requests instead of
bugzilla/fate. Use the wiki? idea.opensuse.org?
**** AI cyberorg, jpr, and captain_magnus volunteering
Q&A:
- Automated tests. Use LDTP? osc run-tests plugin?
- Use GNOME/ prefix for wiki pages, linking when needed
**** AI Write more HOWTOs about GNOME on the wiki
- More compiz/xgl integration for applications.
- Organise next meetings based on user/developer audience
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Hallo.
I am just thinking about update of GNOME:STABLE to GNOME 2.20.
In difference to previous versions, we may stick it to factory for
awhile by using package links. Later we can copy frozen packages there
physically.
What about GNOME:UNSTABLE? If anybody volunteer to start update to 2.21,
there is a chance. Otherwise, we can freeze or drop this repository for
some time.
What is your opinion about this plan?
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Hallo.
There are two new packages, which are now part of basesystem for all
packages in GNOME:Community for <= 10.2:
extra-rpm-macros
gconf2-rpm-macros
It means, that you can recycle Factory packages easier.
What more could be done to recycle Factory packages better:
- aggregate fdupes and licenses packages from GNOME:STABLE
- Think about a trick for defining proper GNOME prefix.
For example, we might try to add macros for easy change of prefix
to /opt/gnome for <= 10.2. I don't yet have any idea about technical
background of it.
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Hi, everyone,
As part of our bug classification scheme [1], it would be useful to know
if people have filed bugs for openSUSE 10.2 that are still present in
10.3. These obviously need to be fixed quickly :)
So, did you file a bug for 10.2 and have you seen it happen also in
10.3? Please feel free to reply here or in the wiki.
[1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Bugs
Federico
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Hi!
I've asked this on the general openSUSE list but so far have had no luck.
Since GTK and GNOME are closely related, I thought maybe someone here had
something to say on this.
I'm running KDE on 10.2, and would like to change the default path
opened by the file open dialogue that is used by GTK applications. Now the
dialogue always opens my home folder, and I'd like to have it
open one of my documents folders instead, so I don't have to navigate
there manually. I regularly use a number of Gnome/GTK apps, and it would
be nice to get this set somewhere. On KDE I can simply go to the Control
Centre and set paths there.
I tried running Gnome and looked at the Control Centre there, but found
nothing. I also tried something called GTK or Gnome configuration etc.
tool that allowed me to change system and application settings, but using
the find to search for '~' or '~/' only resulted some application
specific settings.
I tried to google for this but found nothing there either. Nor do any of
the .gnome* folders in my home folder contain anything that would seem to
affect this.
I'm starting to have a feeling the apps simply use $HOME or something
similar and I can't change what the dialogue opens. It would be nice to
still receive an educated opinion on this before giving up.
Thanks for any ideas!
Regards,
Tero Pesonen
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Greetings GNOME/openSUSE lovers. After holding a very successful first
meeting, the GNOME team will be holding its next meeting this Thursday
at noon EDT/18:00CST/1600 GMT).
In general we will follow the meeting guidelines
(http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About) outlined for the openSUSE
project, except we use #opensuse-gnome as the IRC channel. Please add
agenda items and questions to the meeting page. This particular meeting
will be centered around 10.3 cleanup, 11.0 planning and the
process/planning improvements for the team (ie having these meetings,
and re-organizing the wiki like we've done over the past couple of
weeks).
Last meeting:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20070927
Next meeting:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20071004
or
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Current
Meeting info:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings
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