openSUSE GNOME January 2009

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[opensuse-gnome] To Changelog or to not Changelog
by Magnus Boman 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Hello, Currently, when doing package updates, we have some (strange) policy that we have to put in what changes upstream made (ie, bugfixes, new features etc). All this information is already available in the NEWS/ChangeLog file for most packages. Since this doesn't seem to be an openSUSE policy [1] I wonder why we enforce this for GNOME components? Enforcing updates of the changelog makes it possible to check details of upstream changes with; # rpm -q --changelog nautilus By not enforcing these changes, one can do; # cat /usr/share/doc/packages/nautilus/NEWS I see little (if any) value in doing this, but it adds a lot of time when doing a package update, so I would like to change the policy to simple contain specific updates that the packager made (add/remove patch etc) Opinions? Cheers, Magnus [1] See KDE4 packages, for instance http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Status of G:F:N merge
by Vincent Untz 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hi all, Over the past few days, I took some time to start merging G:F:N updates in G:F. Thanks a lot to the people who worked on G:F:N, it was a good way to stay updated with the latest versions. The merge went fine overall. I took the opportunity to look at the packages closely, and fixed various other things (wrong BuildRequires, eg), sent various patches upstream (I was bad enough to not tag them in the spec files, though :/), dropped various old unneeded patches, etc. There are only a few packages left. Here's a summary of why I left those packages: =============== avahi: it's probably okay, but I'd love to have Stanislav double-check devhelp: depends on webkit. I'm not sure the webkit we have right now is of good quality (it's quite old). So do we want this? empathy: was looking at the updated empathy-lockdown.patch patch, and wondering if it had been sent upstream... Not really a blocker ;-) evolution evolution-data-server evolution-exchange: too big for "osc rdiff", so I got lazy and ignored them for now gdm: I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch) Didn't look closer. gnome-power-manager: requires devicekit-power gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad: legal status of the new plugins unclear libgda libgnomedb: I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch). Also I don't know if we can safely update to libgda 4 now? libsoup: it drops a patch but the upstream bug is still open with no clear resolution nautilus: I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch) Didn't look closer. gnome-packagekit PackageKit: would be good to have Scott look at this system-config-printer: I want to take a closer look at the newer version to see if it's okay to update tomboy: don't remember -- probably just a minor tweak I wanted to do :-) =============== I'll continue at some point this week, but people should feel free to finish the work ;-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Needs testers for nautilus-share
by Vincent Untz 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Hi, I made a small patch to have nautilus-share not depend on eel nor gnome-vfs anymore, but I'd need people to test this out before I submitted the updated package. Is there some users of nautilus-share who could give it a try? I can build the package for 11.0, 11.1 and Factory, I think. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] To Changelog or to not Changelog
by Dominique Leuenberger 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:49 PM, Magnus Boman <captain.magnus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1/repodata/repo… > ew/freeciv-0-2.1.8-4.2.html >> >> You can see the changelog there even BEFORE you get the package downloaded > and installed. >> >> This qualifies for me as a very good reason to have this information in the > RPM Metadata. > > Cool. Tell me, honestly, how often do you do that, and also, do you > reckon that most users check that? Magnus, (Getting it back on the list as others might be interested). It happens that I do it.. can't give you a count though. It rarely happens in packages that I pick from 'my trusted' repos, but if a package from another one comes I sure do check it out. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2009/1/29)
by Rodrigo Moya 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

11.2 features discussion • New organization decided: ∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas will be a place for putting wild ideas, and when well thought and documented, will be moved to openFATE (or just Bugzilla?) ∘ 11.1 and 11.2 pages have been merged into http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas please review and remove already implemented features Packaging day • Next Thursday, to package GNOME 2.25.* Packaging • eel integrated in nautilus 2.25, so remove • farsight to be removed (farsight2 replaces it) • glade-2 (move to contrib?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] sr@Latn vs sr@latin
by Vincent Untz 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hey, Just a FYI: sr@Latn will be removed from the distribution, and this might cause build failures. The reason is that glibc upstream went with sr@latin. This mostly affect GNOME packages, and GNOME upstream already did the switch. So if you see a package hit by this in G:F, it's likely that the fix is just to update to the latest upstream version :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME Packaging Day
by Luis Medinas 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

On the last team meeting[1] we agreed that we should start making packaging days. So to celebrate the 2.25.90 on Feb 4th(first beta release of GNOME 2.26)[2] we will do a packaging day on the next Feb 5th. This will go all day on #opensuse-gnome @ irc.freenode.net until the usually meeting the team do on thursdays. The target will be the GNOME:Factory:Next repository that will contain the final release of 2.26 to be released for 11.1 and the next openSUSE release 11.2. There's also new packages that could be added to GNOME:Community and to GNOME:Factory:Next. So this is a good time to get involved on the openSUSE GNOME team, help squashing bugs and improve GNOME releases. We will meet you there! Luis [1] - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Current [2] - http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyfive -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2009/1/22)
by Rodrigo Moya 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

11.2 planning ∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.2 ∘ Use this page to add any ideas, and when formed a little bit, move to openFATE ∘ AI: everyone review 11.1 ideas page (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.1) and move unfinished tasks to 11.2 page Policy bugs ∘ Plan is to quickly discuss a few bugs that would take hours to discuss on the mailing list ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462077 -> remove patch ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460963 -> WONTFIX, PolicyKit-based solutions will solve this ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=407286 -> use openSUSE icon for both main menu and menu bar applet ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 -> provide our own branding for the menu, to get no submenus ∘ For bugs to be discussed in future meetings, mail vuntz(a)novell.com with the bug # Discuss repo names ∘ GNOME:Stable and G:Unstable created ∘ G:S:2.24 will contain GNOME 2.24.x from openSUSE:11.1, and G:S will point to that, then to G:S:2.26 once released, and so on ∘ G:U will be created from G:Factory as soon as the GNOME:Factory/GNOME:Factory:Next merge is done ∘ Stable release updates (updates to CD/DVD versions) available right now in several separated repos, would be great to have 1 meta-repo that links to the latest for a released distro (Contrib?) -> move discussion to opensuse-project ML ∘ AI: captain_magnus to populate G:S:2.24 Community building ∘ GNOME release days as packaging days (next is Feb 4th) ∘ Bug triage (P5 bugs prioritization) (http://tinyurl.com/cxknu3) can be done by anyone, specially with JP's bug triaging guide FOSDEM ∘ Send a photo of yourself to vuntz(a)novell.com for a talk about the opensuse-GNOME team Next meeting (Jan 29th) ∘ 11.2 features discussion ∘ Having a packaging day soon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE-GNOME Team Meeting 22-January-2009
by Bryen 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Since we had one +1 and no opposition to Captain_Magnus's proposal to alternate time shift meetings to 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month, we'll begin with this Thursday's meeting at 22:00 UTC. We have had very excellent turnout at each of these time-shifted meetings and this gives people globally more of an opportunity to be involved consistently. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=01&year=2… This week will be a more formal agenda meeting after the last two meetings' productive open-informal discussion. I'll leave JPR to come up with what he wants the agenda this week to address. If anyone else wishes to add topics to discuss at the meeting, please feel free to respond to this mail. After this week, we'll start using the http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meeting page formally again. Looking forward to seeing you all on Thursday. -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member openSUSE-GNOME Team Member GNOME-A11y Team Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Re: [RESULTS] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2009/1/15)
by Rodrigo Moya 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 11:09 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote: > Hello Rodrigo, > Hi Johannes > On Jan 15 19:12 Rodrigo Moya wrote (shortened): > > 11.2 ideas: > ... > > ? Color management on the desktop > > I think that having color management only on the desktop > would be not fully useful when it would not be linked with > color management for output devices in particular for printers. > > Therefore, for your information only, regarding > "Color Management and Printing with Linux" you may have a look at > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-summit/2008/001608.ht… > > forwarding your message to opensuse-gnome. -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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