Hello,
Currently, when doing package updates, we have some (strange) policy
that we have to put in what changes upstream made (ie, bugfixes, new
features etc).
All this information is already available in the NEWS/ChangeLog file for
most packages.
Since this doesn't seem to be an openSUSE policy [1] I wonder why we
enforce this for GNOME components?
Enforcing updates of the changelog makes it possible to check details of
upstream changes with;
# rpm -q --changelog nautilus
By not enforcing these changes, one can do;
# cat /usr/share/doc/packages/nautilus/NEWS
I see little (if any) value in doing this, but it adds a lot of time
when doing a package update, so I would like to change the policy to
simple contain specific updates that the packager made (add/remove patch
etc)
Opinions?
Cheers,
Magnus
[1] See KDE4 packages, for instance
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS…
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Hi all,
Over the past few days, I took some time to start merging G:F:N updates
in G:F. Thanks a lot to the people who worked on G:F:N, it was a good
way to stay updated with the latest versions.
The merge went fine overall. I took the opportunity to look at the
packages closely, and fixed various other things (wrong BuildRequires,
eg), sent various patches upstream (I was bad enough to not tag them in
the spec files, though :/), dropped various old unneeded patches, etc.
There are only a few packages left. Here's a summary of why I left those
packages:
===============
avahi:
it's probably okay, but I'd love to have Stanislav double-check
devhelp:
depends on webkit. I'm not sure the webkit we have right now is of good
quality (it's quite old). So do we want this?
empathy:
was looking at the updated empathy-lockdown.patch patch, and wondering
if it had been sent upstream... Not really a blocker ;-)
evolution
evolution-data-server
evolution-exchange:
too big for "osc rdiff", so I got lazy and ignored them for now
gdm:
I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch)
Didn't look closer.
gnome-power-manager:
requires devicekit-power
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad:
legal status of the new plugins unclear
libgda
libgnomedb:
I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch). Also I don't know if we
can safely update to libgda 4 now?
libsoup:
it drops a patch but the upstream bug is still open with no clear
resolution
nautilus:
I think it needs a manual merge (broken patch)
Didn't look closer.
gnome-packagekit
PackageKit:
would be good to have Scott look at this
system-config-printer:
I want to take a closer look at the newer version to see if it's okay
to update
tomboy:
don't remember -- probably just a minor tweak I wanted to do :-)
===============
I'll continue at some point this week, but people should feel free to
finish the work ;-)
Vincent
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Hi,
I made a small patch to have nautilus-share not depend on eel nor
gnome-vfs anymore, but I'd need people to test this out before I
submitted the updated package.
Is there some users of nautilus-share who could give it a try? I can
build the package for 11.0, 11.1 and Factory, I think.
Thanks,
Vincent
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>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:49 PM, Magnus Boman <captain.magnus(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1/repodata/repo…
> ew/freeciv-0-2.1.8-4.2.html
>>
>> You can see the changelog there even BEFORE you get the package downloaded
> and installed.
>>
>> This qualifies for me as a very good reason to have this information in the
> RPM Metadata.
>
> Cool. Tell me, honestly, how often do you do that, and also, do you
> reckon that most users check that?
Magnus,
(Getting it back on the list as others might be interested).
It happens that I do it.. can't give you a count though.
It rarely happens in packages that I pick from 'my trusted' repos, but if a package from another one comes I sure do check it out.
Dominique
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11.2 features discussion
• New organization decided:
∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas will be a place for putting wild ideas, and
when well thought and documented, will be moved to openFATE (or just Bugzilla?)
∘ 11.1 and 11.2 pages have been merged into http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas
please review and remove already implemented features
Packaging day
• Next Thursday, to package GNOME 2.25.*
Packaging
• eel integrated in nautilus 2.25, so remove
• farsight to be removed (farsight2 replaces it)
• glade-2 (move to contrib?)
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Hey,
Just a FYI: sr@Latn will be removed from the distribution, and this
might cause build failures. The reason is that glibc upstream went with
sr@latin. This mostly affect GNOME packages, and GNOME upstream already
did the switch. So if you see a package hit by this in G:F, it's likely
that the fix is just to update to the latest upstream version :-)
Vincent
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On the last team meeting[1] we agreed that we should start making
packaging days. So to celebrate the 2.25.90 on Feb 4th(first beta
release of GNOME 2.26)[2] we will do a packaging day on the next Feb
5th. This will go all day on #opensuse-gnome @ irc.freenode.net until
the usually meeting the team do on thursdays.
The target will be the GNOME:Factory:Next repository that will contain
the final release of 2.26 to be released for 11.1 and the next openSUSE
release 11.2. There's also new packages that could be added to
GNOME:Community and to GNOME:Factory:Next.
So this is a good time to get involved on the openSUSE GNOME team, help
squashing bugs and improve GNOME releases.
We will meet you there!
Luis
[1] - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Current
[2] - http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyfive
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11.2 planning
∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.2
∘ Use this page to add any ideas, and when formed a little bit, move to openFATE
∘ AI: everyone review 11.1 ideas page (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.1) and move unfinished tasks to 11.2 page
Policy bugs
∘ Plan is to quickly discuss a few bugs that would take hours to discuss on the mailing list
∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462077 -> remove patch
∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460963 -> WONTFIX, PolicyKit-based solutions will solve this
∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=407286 -> use openSUSE icon for both main menu and menu bar applet
∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 -> provide our own branding for the menu, to get no submenus
∘ For bugs to be discussed in future meetings, mail vuntz(a)novell.com with the bug #
Discuss repo names
∘ GNOME:Stable and G:Unstable created
∘ G:S:2.24 will contain GNOME 2.24.x from openSUSE:11.1, and G:S will point to that, then to G:S:2.26 once released, and so on
∘ G:U will be created from G:Factory as soon as the GNOME:Factory/GNOME:Factory:Next merge is done
∘ Stable release updates (updates to CD/DVD versions) available right now in several separated repos, would be great to have 1 meta-repo that links to the latest for a released distro (Contrib?) -> move discussion to opensuse-project ML
∘ AI: captain_magnus to populate G:S:2.24
Community building
∘ GNOME release days as packaging days (next is Feb 4th)
∘ Bug triage (P5 bugs prioritization) (http://tinyurl.com/cxknu3) can be done by anyone, specially with JP's bug triaging guide
FOSDEM
∘ Send a photo of yourself to vuntz(a)novell.com for a talk about the opensuse-GNOME team
Next meeting (Jan 29th)
∘ 11.2 features discussion
∘ Having a packaging day soon
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Since we had one +1 and no opposition to Captain_Magnus's proposal to
alternate time shift meetings to 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month,
we'll begin with this Thursday's meeting at 22:00 UTC. We have had very
excellent turnout at each of these time-shifted meetings and this gives
people globally more of an opportunity to be involved consistently.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=01&year=2…
This week will be a more formal agenda meeting after the last two
meetings' productive open-informal discussion. I'll leave JPR to come
up with what he wants the agenda this week to address. If anyone else
wishes to add topics to discuss at the meeting, please feel free to
respond to this mail.
After this week, we'll start using the
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meeting page formally again.
Looking forward to seeing you all on Thursday.
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openSUSE-GNOME Team Member
GNOME-A11y Team Member
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On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 11:09 +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> Hello Rodrigo,
>
Hi Johannes
> On Jan 15 19:12 Rodrigo Moya wrote (shortened):
> > 11.2 ideas:
> ...
> > ? Color management on the desktop
>
> I think that having color management only on the desktop
> would be not fully useful when it would not be linked with
> color management for output devices in particular for printers.
>
> Therefore, for your information only, regarding
> "Color Management and Printing with Linux" you may have a look at
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-summit/2008/001608.ht…
>
>
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