If this has been asked before, I’ve missed it and apologise. It’s
certainly been asked elsewhere, though with no clear answer.
Frequently, but not always, when closing (or rebooting) Leap 15.2, the
shutdown stalls for 90 seconds with a message “A stop job is running for
Session 2 of user <xxxx>”, together with a register counting down from 1
minute 30 seconds. When the countdown reaches zero the shutdown
completes. There’s no other diagnostic information.
I can’t invoke a terminal at that point to establish what’s what. But I
have captured what could be useful info with systemctl -b -<x> across
Case 1. Excerpt from journal, “clean” shutdown, no significant delay:
May 09 13:58:02 Corgi systemd: Started Session 2 of user robin.
May 09 15:08:45 Corgi systemd: Stopping Session 2 of user robin.
May 09 15:08:45 Corgi systemd-logind: Session 2 logged out.
Waiting for processes to exit.
May 09 15:08:48 Corgi systemd: Stopped Session 2 of user robin.
Case 2. Excerpt from journal, shutdown with "stop job running" and
May 09 15:09:52 Corgi systemd: Started Session 2 of user robin.
May 09 15:15:51 Corgi systemd: Stopping Session 2 of user robin.
May 09 15:15:51 Corgi systemd-logind: Session 2 logged out.
Waiting for processes to exit.
May 09 15:17:21 Corgi systemd: Stopped Session 2 of user robin.
The timestamps of the last two lines in Case 1 show an inconsequential 3
second delay. Those for Case 2 show the full 90 second wait, seeming
also to finger systemd-logind as the culprit.
The most common suggestion in other forums is to reduce the default for
DefaultTimeoutStopSec in /etc/systemd/system.conf from 90 seconds to
10. This works, but it only addresses the symptom, not the cause.
Assuming the problem does lie somehow with systemd-logind on shutdown,
is there something else I can do to fix it? Anyone?
Wellington "Harbour City"
I am using in my emails (kmail) normally the default (noto I think).
But recently I am getting mails from a HK provider using html mail with a
story part in mandarin.
While the normal writing is "beautified" easily by using e.g. AR PL Sungtil
GB, the mail itself, using html, is apparently not making reference to this
setting. So the letters are ugly and primitive (looking like hit into stone by
So: is there a way to influence how Kontact/Kmail renders 汉语 embedded in html
with the font of my choice? And where would be that setting? Would that be "QT
Thank you in advance.
I am wondering if it would be possible to maybe get a couple of pointers
on what to do next as far as a bug report. I don't know if it is correct
to ask more questions in Bugzilla at this point.
First off the bug report is here: ->
My computer was able to boot fine with kernel 5.11.16-1-pae
I was asked to install kernel-default for testing purposes
5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default which I did. kernel-default failed to boot.
So now 3 kernels are installed/listed in the bootmenu as follows.
kernel 5.11.16-1-pae <- Is now gone. Computer is unable to boot to
splash screen with any of the 3 above listed kernels. It makes
little/some sense since in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf - line 554
multiversion.kernel the kernel 5.11.16-1-pae must have been removed <- I
do not understand though because when I installed KOTD the 5.11.16-1-pae
was the running kernel.
Quoting the bug report now as per Comment #7 is as follows:
"OK, thanks, then it's a generic problem of 32bit Intel kernel.
Feel free to uninstall kernel-default again.
Now, we need more details about the crash. Any chance that you have the
relevant kernel Oops or panic in the saved kernel logs? Or if not, try
to boot without quiet boot option, and check whether you get the stack
traces on screen, and take a picture. That's often helpful as a start.".
What does the kernel Oops or saved kernel logs mean? I have the openSUSE
1. Is this y2logs? What is the best way to retrieve these logs that are
2. I do not want to install the operating system again as it will not
help the situation at all most likely.
3. Sometimes I do get stack traces on the screen and am not booting with
quiet boot option I believe.
4. I decided to take a photo of the "stack traces" and I have attached
the image to this email.
5. The 32 bit computer does have 4 gigabytes of memory installed. <- Do
not know if that was necessary to say. :|
I would really appreciate your input as I am quite inexperienced with
this situation. I think it would be really neat to get some of the bugs
fixed for 32 bit TW for the: Dual Core model: Intel T2400 bits: 32 type:
MCP arch: M Yonah
rev: 8 cache: L2: 2 MiB
flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx bogomips: 7314
Speed: 997 MHz min/max: 1000/1833 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 997 2: 997
I have some woefully out of date machines that I can't upgrade right
now. I noticed that, thankfully, older Leap repositories are still
available from  .
Is there a policy on how long they are kept or at least an intent to
announce removal in advance? I'd like to know if I should preemptively
mirror those repos.
On 05/05/2021 02.12, -pj wrote:
> On 5/4/21 3:26 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 04/05/2021 22.07, -pj wrote:
>>> I am wondering if it would be possible to maybe get a couple of pointers
>>> on what to do next as far as a bug report. I don't know if it is correct
>>> to ask more questions in Bugzilla at this point.
>>> First off the bug report is here: ->
>>> My computer was able to boot fine with kernel 5.11.16-1-pae
>>> I was asked to install kernel-default for testing purposes
>>> 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default which I did. kernel-default failed to boot.
>>> So now 3 kernels are installed/listed in the bootmenu as follows.
>>> 1. 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default
>>> 2. 5.12.0-2-pae
>>> 3. 5.12.0-1-pae
>>> kernel 5.11.16-1-pae <- Is now gone. Computer is unable to boot to
>>> splash screen with any of the 3 above listed kernels. It makes
>>> little/some sense since in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf - line 554
>>> multiversion.kernel the kernel 5.11.16-1-pae must have been removed <- I
>>> do not understand though because when I installed KOTD the 5.11.16-1-pae
>>> was the running kernel.
>>> Quoting the bug report now as per Comment #7 is as follows:
>>> "OK, thanks, then it's a generic problem of 32bit Intel kernel.
>>> Feel free to uninstall kernel-default again.
>>> Now, we need more details about the crash. Any chance that you have the
>>> relevant kernel Oops or panic in the saved kernel logs? Or if not, try
>>> to boot without quiet boot option, and check whether you get the stack
>>> traces on screen, and take a picture. That's often helpful as a start.".
>>> What does the kernel Oops or saved kernel logs mean? I have the openSUSE
>>> 1. Is this y2logs? What is the best way to retrieve these logs that are
>> No. Those are the YaST logs.
>> You first run:
>> journalctl --list-boots
>> For this to work, the directory "/var/log/journal/" must exist. If it
>> doesn't, create it, for the next time.
> Great..I see here: ->
> "section 11.1:". Which is the best way to perform this step (due to
> having kernels that are not allowing boot to Splash screen or desktop)?
> Will I need to create a Rescue-CD perhaps so that I can check for this
> "/var/log/journal" directory? I do see "C: Command Line E: Edit Entry"
> at the bottom left corner of the "boot menu" screen.
It is far simpler than all that: you just boot the kernel that works,
and ask journalctl to display the log of one, two, three boots before.
The only condition is that "/var/log/journal" directory must exist
before you start testing. If it doesn't, as you are already using the
machine, just create the directory when the machine is running. After
you create the directory you have to attempt to boot the kernel that
fails so that it log things - if it gets far enough to write anything.
(I see you had to take photos instead)
> 1. Is it best in my reply here to snip off the remainder (bottom
> portion) of this message before sending?
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
i do support for some older people, - since years.
they like to have a more easy graphic program
as gimp is. - they remember the "paint shop pro"
in dos days. (maybe its also not so easy in this
days if it is still available)
the functions who would neccesarry would be:
make a collage from a couple of pictures
(put them together) (and rotate)
cut of people from pictures (or other parts from
pictures) an put them to a other picture.
did anybody here know some easy program who is able
to do this?
What is the intended way to stop Package kit nagging user(s) in KDE and
This started with openSuSE 15.2 and it has reached critical mass today
- so this is sort of SOS before I take hammer at it an uninstall
packageKit "with all of its dependencies".
What I mean by nagging:
1. Requests for Admin privileges in KDE to refresh repositories - I do
not know how to stop this without breaking anything else.
2. KDE notifications - I disabled those in KDE - so no probs here.
The setup is remote multi user (do I need to say that) VNC server with
long-ish uptime - typically few weeks until it needs critical updates.
Thank you, Tomas
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Since I updated my desktop machine past night, sound is broken. It sounds
as if the speakers are "broken", with sand inside. Same problem if I use
the earphones, so it is not the speakers. Tried youtube and vlc (with
Carlos E. R.
(from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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using KMail on Tumbleweed, I notice some broken encoding when sending a mail
to a large number of recipients (yes, sounds strange, but given the fact that
there were some hard limits on the number of receipients for some time...)
Each line break comes with '=20' at the end of the line.
Looking at the mail header:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
-> looks good, but I miss
which probably does the trick (and is in other mails).
I assume saving a mail in draft folder of am IMAP account should not change
anything. So, the criteria 'number of recipient' (>50 in that case) is the
only common denominator.
Did anyone else notice this?
I'm using convert regularly to extract jpegs from pdf's, like
convert -density 300 Jauchzet-dem-Herren.pdf -quality 80
But after one of the the last updates of TW (don't know which snapshot,
I'm on the latest (20210423); the one before that had the problem too) I
get this error:
gs: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre2-8.so.0: failed to map
segment from shared object
and as a result convert fails:
convert: no images defined `Jauchzet-dem-Herren-%02d.jpg' @
Imagemagick has version 7.0.11-7 Q16 x86_64 2021-04-12
Besides opening a bug, anyone an idea?
Thanks for any answers,