August 2009 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] Bug 436758 & 386359 - Renaming YaST in the menu and Control Center tasks
by Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy 19 Oct '09

19 Oct '09

Both bugs 436758[1] and 386359[2] have been open for a year or more, both relating to YaST & the Control Center. The first recommends YaST, in the right hand side of the Computer menu, should be renamed to something more descriptive, like "Administrator Settings". This was originally opened against 11.1 but was pushed back. [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436758 The second recommends re-adding Common Tasks to the Control Center, as we had during 10.2. It was quick shortcuts to tasks (like Add a Printer, Manage Accounts, Change Default Applications) that can be quickly done in either the Control Center or YaST. This was originally opened against 11.0(!). [2] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=386359 Is there enough time to get these two usability issues settled before 11.2? Thanks, -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy openSUSE Project Member http://www.twitter.com/KevinYeaux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] mouse pointer stays busy for 30 seconds after logging in
by Jim Faulkner 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

I'm seeing a minor issue on OpenSUSE 11.1 in which the mouse pointer stays in its "spinning circle" mode for 30 seconds or more after logging into Gnome. I've tried checking running processes but there does not appear to be any processes that are causing this. The process table is identical both shortly after logging in while the mouse pointer is spinning, and a minute after login at which point the pointer has gone back to normal. I realize this is a minor cosmetic issue, however it is kind of annoying because it seems to be telling the user "don't do anything yet, the computer is busy." And the user will just sit staring at the spinning wheel impatiently, even though Gnome has completely finished loading and is ready for use. Anyone know what might be causing this? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] VOTE: Firefox Beagle Plugin - Urgent
by Magnus Boman 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Hi all, When we do a default GNOME install, we will also get a Firefox plugin for beagle to index the online history. I like to know if people want this to be automatically installed or not. So, can you please reply to the list (ctrl+l in evolution) and let us know if this firefox plugin should be installed by default or not. [ ] Install by default [ ] Do not install by default Cheers, Magnus Ps. If beagle is not installed or enabled, this should not really affect performance in a noticeable way. Ds. Ps2. This is not a rant against beagle. Please read the email again if thats what you think it is. Ds2. Ps3. Can we all agree to have one week exactly for this vote so that we can decide to keep or remove it from the patterns. Ds3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] VOTE: Package DownThemAll Plugin with Firefox - [URGENT]
by Sankar P 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Hi, As suggested by Captain Magnus, I started this survey to see what you people feel about installing DownThemAll plugin (a download manager) for Firefox by default. Link to Survey: http://en.opensuse.org/Surveys You have to click on the link under "Currently active survey(s)" for voting. More information about the plugin can be found in: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/201 and in http://www.downthemall.net/howto/features/ Survey closes on September 6th, 2009. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Backports repo ?
by Jay Mistry 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

I get > Object not found! > > The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > Error 404 > download.opensuse.org > Sat Aug 29 09:18:24 2009 > Apache/2.2.13 (Linux/SUSE) on trying to browse GNOME:Backports repo; wanted to add this repo to Yast -> Repositories. What's up with GNOME: Backports ? (openSUSE 11.1, i686) Thanks, Jay -- Linux User 483705 | openSUSE 11.1, Ubuntu 9.04 (i686) w/ Windows XP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE Conference - Unconference session
by Magnus Boman 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Hello all, For those of you who are planning to attend the first ever openSUSE Conference, the GNOME team have booked a nice Unconference [2] session to discuss everything GNOME in openSUSE on Thursday between 10.30 - 12.15 [1]. Hope to see you all there! Cheers, Magnus [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Conf_2009_Unconference [2] Can someone explain to me what the heck an "Unconference" is anyway? :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-gnome] VOTE: Firefox Beagle Plugin - Urgent
by "Bjørn Lie" 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

[X ] Install by default [ ] Do not install by default //Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-gnome] VOTE: Firefox Beagle Plugin - Urgent
by Andrew Wafaa 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

-- Sent from a Nokia N97 Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin . -----Original Message----- From: Magnus Boman Sent: 31/08/2009 15:19:24 Subject: [opensuse-gnome] VOTE: Firefox Beagle Plugin - Urgent Hi all, When we do a default GNOME install, we will also get a Firefox plugin for beagle to index the online history. I like to know if people want this to be automatically installed or not. So, can you please reply to the list (ctrl+l in evolution) and let us know if this firefox plugin should be installed by default or not. [x] Install by default [ ] Do not install by default Cheers, Magnus Ps. If beagle is not installed or enabled, this should not really affect performance in a noticeable way. Ds. Ps2. This is not a rant against beagle. Please read the email again if thats what you think it is. Ds2. Ps3. Can we all agree to have one week exactly for this vote so that we can decide to keep or remove it from the patterns. Ds3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Missing icons in M6
by Rastislav Krupanský 28 Aug '09

28 Aug '09

Hi. Is it known when switching Oxygen icons, some of them missing in M6? http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6551/screenshotlof.png -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] For people with GNOME:Factory branches
by Vincent Untz 28 Aug '09

28 Aug '09

Hey, I've changed the GNOME:Factory (and GNOME:Backports:Factory) configuration to build against openSUSE:Factory/snapshot instead of oS:F/standard. This should help us not be blocked when oS:F is being rebuilt. See the discussion on opensuse-packaging for more information. If you have a G:F branch, please check your branch configuration and update it too: osc meta -e home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory and change the line: <path repository="standard" project="openSUSE:Factory"/> to this: <path repository="snapshot" project="openSUSE:Factory"/> Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Suspend not working with Milestone 6
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

Just tried to use GNOME as desktop and hit a showstopper - suspend to ram doesnot work. ~/.xsession-errors contains: (gnome-power-manager:5239): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Couldn't suspend: failed to check authorisation: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files Should I open a bug or is this a known issue? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

My ~/.xsession-errors gets spammed by: [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 This seems to come from gnome-desktop-sharp2: /usr/lib/mono/gac/gnomedesktop-sharp/2.20.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gnomedesktop-sharp.dll.config: <dllmap dll="gnome-desktop-2" target="libgnome-desktop-2.so.7"/> any ideas? Should I file a bug against mono? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Weekly News: Announcing Meetings via news.o.o
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hello Mates, i would just remind you, to announce meetings in news.o.o too. The thing behind them is, that we use an script for fetching news.o.o events automaticly. It would be great if we all have the events on an central place. Thank you very much :-) -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Request for help: updating NetworkManager
by Will Stephenson 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

I've found some problems in our NetworkManager that affect all clients. Most importantly, GSM mobile broadband seems to be broken NM-side. Any attempt to connect using factory NM and nm-applet hangs with: NetworkManager: real_connection_secrets_updated: assertion `caller == SECRETS_CALLER_GSM' failed OpenVPN connections fail too. These problems are common to both the gnome and KDE applets and I would hate 11.2 to go out broken. I would like to update the package (in a OBS branch) to git master to see if this solves it and is a net benefit. Raymond Wooninck and I have updated NetworkManager itself to 0.7.1 branch, but the assert remains, because it's in the use-modem-manager patch. Updating the patch to modem-manager master and making it fit NM 0.7 branch is possible but would probably be hard work and a maintenance burden. Fedora and Ubuntu are both shipping master in their autumn releases. What do you think? If this is not a Terrible Idea, I could really use gnome-packaging expertise here. There is some part of the NM/GNOME release process that I don't understand - git archive tarballs don't build, I took Ubuntu's package apart and stuffed its sources in our specfile but that doesn't build either due to a missing po/configure.in.in. How do I get a packageable tarball? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Monsoon/Transmission, Pidgin/Empathy, Gwibber, etc.
by Vincent Untz 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Hey there, So lately, we've been pretty bad at knowing when a decision was taken and executing it. During one of the last few meetings, it was decided to move to transmission, but the meeting was not well-attended. Luis, what is the end word? Same for pidgin & empathy. What was the decision here? Luis, I believe you were looking if the facebook plugin can work with empathy. Any luck there? Also, people wanted to push gwibber to factory. Is the version in Contrib working fine on factory? Can someone submit it to G:F, I'll forward it from there. James, maybe? I'm pretty sure we have other examples of stuff that we just dropped. Let's try to not do this :-) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Space on the Live CD
by Vincent Untz 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Hey, Just to give some quick information on some stuff I've been working on in the past few days. As some people noticed, we lost a few apps on the livecd for m5 because of package conflicts and because of size issues. I've been working a bit on the latter. Here are some notes. You'll see that you can help. Why this is important ===================== If we can remove stuff from the livecd, it means we can add something else :-) For m5, some packages were removed and we'd like to add them back. The list I have (not sure it's complete :/) is beagle, gnome-do, gnome-pilot, totem-plugins, xscreensaver, gnome-screensaver. Now, I guess the goal is to first try to put those packages back. But then, I'm pretty sure we'd all like to also have 4-5 new user-oriented applications on the livecd. If people have suggestions for those apps, then please share. How you can help ================ See below for more details, but there are three immediate tasks that could do with some help: + rewriting the smolt call in gnome-packagekit + splitting glibc-locale + splitting xscreensaver I can help a bit for each of them, but it's way more likely to happen if people step up ;-) Detailed notes ============== + we got rid of qt3 from there. It was only required by umtsmon, which was a workaround for 3G not working well in NM. + we removed yast2-qt and yast2-qt-pkg. The livecd should be fine with the gtk frontend only. + we removed python-opengl (quite big too). It was brought by a recommends from gnome-games (for the 3D view in the chess game). It's not needed at runtime, so we blacklisted it without removing the recommends. + Wolfgang is working on splitting the translation packages of xulrunner and firefox (they can't live in -lang packages, and therefore in bundle-lang packages because they're not noarch). With this split, we'll have a limited set of translations on the livecd (still a lot of languages, actually), but that should help quite a bit. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529180 + smolt has been split in smolt and smolt-gui. The smolt-gui part is the only part that requires python-qt4 (quite big). So we'll remove it from the live cd. But to do that, we first need to update the patch in gnome-packagekit that runs smolt on the first login to not use the gui, but a small helper. This is not hard to do and I can guide people there. => help needed + Sandy has been working to try to get rid of mono-winforms on the livecd. It's required by mono-web, which is required by various apps. + there's some work to split the debugging information from mono packages in the proper debuginfo packages. This should help quite a bit too. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528851 + we're trying to get rid of some not-that-interesting icon themes in OOo. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529404 + I'm splitting the support for tcl plugins in libpurple (pidgin) and xchat into subpackages. There are only three packages on the m5 livecd requiring tcl and tk: libpurple, xchat and python-openl. So this automatically should go away soon. + I'm moving the doc files from gnome2-user-docs (huge packet) in a proper lang package, so that they can be integrated in bundle-lang-gnome. + qt4 is absolutely big on the livecd. It's only required by yast2-qt (removed), smolt (via python-qt4, will be fixed, see above), and sax2. I started a thread on opensuse-factory to see if we could remove sax2 from the livecd. Apparently, it will stay for 11.2 :/ + glibc-locale is the biggest package on the livecd. I'm looking at splitting it in smaller chunks. Waiting for feedback from the glibc packager, though. I'd appreciate if people could step up and do this. => help needed + split xscreensaver. This package contains a huge amount of screensavers and, well, we really don't need to ship with more than 10-15 screensavers by default. Someone should create a list of recommended screensavers, and then we could split the packages. => help needed Finding more space to save ========================== I'm sure more could be done. Just boot on the livecd, and look at the list of packages. You can also sort the list of packages by size with: rpm -qa --qf '%{size} %{name}\n' | sort -nr Keep in mind that it's the installed size, and not the compressed size. To get an overview of the compressed size, you can look at /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-Factory/suse/setup/descr/packages.gz Just open it, look for "=Pkg: gnome2-user-docs", eg, and then at the end of the section for this package, you have a line looking like "=Siz: 11194787 29571127" which contains the packet size and the installed size. The strategy is to look at what is at the top of the list of packages (when sorted per size) and see how we can shave this a bit. A good example is that samba-client is absolutely huge. Is this normal? Someone could investigate. Also, to see what requires a package on the livecd, just run "rpm --test -e $pkg" from the livecd. You'll miss Recommends (you can find them in /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-Factory/suse/setup/descr/packages.gz), but that's a good start. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Ops, I did it again...
by Magnus Boman 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

Hello. Ops, we did it again... My apologies that we're sometimes a bit concentrated on packages and package updated on this list. It'd be great to change that and get everyone involved... If you read this, please let us know about...: 1. What's your primary interest for reading this mailing list 2. In which "box" would you put yourself in (more than one is ok, and add your own if we're missing a box) [ ] Developer [ ] Packages [ ] End user [ ] Alcoholic [ ] Bryen [ ] WIKI [ ] Translator [ ] Stalker [ ] Bug reporter (See Stalker :-)) [ ] None of the above [ ] All of the above 3. What could / should we talk about more on this list 4. Apart from 1, 2 and 3, what should / could we do to get YOU more involved? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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