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[opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-packaging] Menu handling
by Vincent Untz 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi, Moving part of this thread to opensuse-gnome. Le mercredi 23 avril 2008, à 10:50 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le lundi 21 avril 2008, à 21:37 +0200, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > Many years ago, SuSE used selfmade menu. Now, according to > > freedesktop.org's specs and implementations in software there's no need. > > > > Upstream provides .desktop files, mostly well translated. > > > > By creating .desktop files, you're reinventing the wheel, making SUSE's > > menu entries inconsistent with other distros, and messing in menu. > > > > You may ask "what's that mess?". > > > > The mess is: > > * more categories than entries in those categories > > * entries duplication > > * wrong categories set (Liferea is RSS aggregator, not newsgroups > > client/whatever, same applies for Miro) > > * configuration apps not in GNOME's control center but in usual > > "Applications" menu and/or application browser > > > > openSUSE should stop that. Apps already provide .desktop files, as said > > before. desktop-file-install should be used to install them (probably > > with --vendor and --delete original as schema). > > > > Screenshots from GNOME: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mtf3lw > > I'll probably have to find better host for these screenshots. > > Tell me, when this doesn't work. > > That's most probably because of the menu files that are used. We have > applications.menu, applications.menu.kde and applications.menu.gnome -- > I'm not sure all GNOME applications use applications.menu.gnome (and > looking at this file, it seems outdated). So we can fix it in the > packaging of gnome-menus, I believe. Two questions here: + applications.menu.gnome seems to be outdated. Can we kill it/replace it/do whatever I want with it? + I'd really love to use upstream applications.menu for GNOME. It's much much cleaner. Really. This would make the menu bar and upstream main menu more usable. But I don't know what's the impact on the application browser. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME: repository maintenance
by Michael Wolf 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hello With the imminent release of openSUSE 11.0, it's time once again to take a good look at our repositories in the Build Service. JP, Dirk from the KDE team, and I discussed this earlier today, and we've come up with the following proposal. (To be fair, it was Dirk who did, and he convinced JP and me that he was right. ;) He proposed a very similar organization for KDE here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2008-06/msg00010.html) * GNOME:STABLE - This will contain GNOME roughly as shipped with the last shipped version of openSUSE. So, Real Soon Now (tm) it will contain GNOME 2.22.x. The term "STABLE" can cause some confusion, so to clarify, it means a distribution of GNOME that we have deemed stable, tested, etc. As such, it may sometimes lag the most recent release released as stable by upstream. * GNOME:Factory - Here is where development for the next version of openSUSE will happen. We've made some previous attempts to do our development in the Build Service that were not so successful, for a variety of reasons. But this time, with improved tools and greater determination, I think we can make it work for real. http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/Collaboration describes some of the Build Service's new capabilities. I'm looking forward to seeing good stuff coming in now that it's so much easier to contribute changes. * GNOME:UNSTABLE - I expect this project to lie fallow most of the time. * GNOME:Community - This project will continue as is. Questions, comments, or concerns? Or corrections? :) Michael. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] file-roller default ...
by Michael Meeks 01 Jul '08

01 Jul '08

Hi guys, Is it just me, or should file-roller default to "View as a folder" for all non-trivial archives (say those containing files in more than one directory) :-) [ or failing that always just default to "View as a folder" ? ] Regards, Michael. -- michael.meeks(a)novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/06/26)
by Rodrigo Moya 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

* 11.1 features + GNOME 2.23.x mostly submitted to Factory + 2.24.1 will be for 11.1 + Better multihead support (more automatic / less manual, less buggy) + Lots of PulseAudio complains in #suse, need a wiki page for PulseAudio common problems and solutions + 11.1 ideas should be announced more widely AI: rodrigo to write PulseAudio wiki page AI: suseROCKS to spread the word about 11.1 ideas page AI: rodrigo to forward suseROCKS announcement mail to opensuse(a)opensuse.org * Helping Hands + 1st presentation tomorrow (14:30 UTC) + Next 3 will be evolution, openoffice and multiscreen + Helping Hands will cover all sections of openSUSE, not only GNOME * Multiscreen + Nothing is changed yet from what we have in 11.0 + Code has been merged into GNOME 2.23 mainline + Many things missing still: - many problems in X drivers, hard to fix - missing functionality in g-s-d and g-c-c - app bugs (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374148) * Agenda for next meeting + Benchmark/Performance testing + Issues users are having with latest 11.0 + AI: everyone should troll through a few channels and mailing lists and come up with issues users are having -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Subpixel hinting does not work on openSUSE 11.0
by Igor Jagec 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Hi there! I installed modified freetype packages with subpixel hinting included, but the problem is that Gnome Terminal is the only GNOME application for which subpixel hinting works. It works just fine for non GNOME applications. I'm using openSUSE 11.0 x86_64. Does anyone experienced the same problem? If so, is there any workaround or something we could solve the problem? Cheers! -- Igor Jagec

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[opensuse-gnome] REMINDER: Helping Hands
by Bryen 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

As we agreed to in last week's meeting, this Friday at 14:30 UTC, we will be holding our first Helping Hands presentation. It will be an extended two hour event and cover GNOME Desktop setup broadly. Please consider what areas of setup you'd like to talk about that would be of interest to new users of openSUSE-GNOME. After tomorrow's regularly scheduled weekly meeting, I'd like to meet with you to quickly review what you all will be talking about. The next two events to be scheduled will be openOffice and Evolution. I am debating skipping next week Friday's presentation schedule as that is July 4th Independence Day here in the United States. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Wiki Cleanup
by Bryen 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Hi, I'm taking the initiative to sift through all our pages on the Wiki, as seen via http://en.opensuse.org/Category:GNOME link. I've done minor edits, such as cleaning up improper links, etc. Nothing major. (Please note, these pages have the GNOME Category tag on them. Any pages without the tag, I probably don't know about and would bet there's more GNOME pages out there.) Below are some of the things I'd like feedback/comments on as to whether they should be cleaned up/rearranged. - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Community_Inclusion_Policy This page is marked as a draft. - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Community/Policy. This page is marked as a draft. - http://en.opensuse.org/Category:GNOME There are a series of articles about the GNOME Updater. But they are not under /GNOME/, but rather at http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_Updater_Applet. If these pages are still relevant, I'd like to move them to be under /GNOME/ so everything is in one place. - http://en.opensuse.org/Category:GNOME There are a series of bug related articles, such as /Bugs, /BugDays, /MainMenuBugWeek. I'd like to move them all so they fall under /GNOME/Bugs/ There's more pages than I've listed here that I'd like to look at as well, but can we start with these? I'd like to add more sub-page categories, such as /GNOME/Software/, /GNOME/Developers/, /GNOME/Community, etc. and then organize the remaining pages under these categories. I'd like to tackle this in the next few days because, well.. we've got company coming next week. (New 11.0 users) Your thoughts? -- ---Bryen--- Let's rejoice a "There are no dumb questions" culture. But I really need you to have a "No dumb answers" policy before I answer your question. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Helping Hands First Event
by Bryen 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

The GNOME Team will host its first Helping Hands event this coming Friday, June 27th at 14:30 UTC in the #opensuse-gnome IRC channel on the FreeNode Network. This will be an extended two-hour event where various members of the GNOME team will talk about different features of the GNOME desktop and offer assistance in setting up your custom environment. You can find out more about the Helping Hands project at http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/HowTos. Incidentally, there has already been talk on several fronts about expanding the Helping Hands project to cover all areas of openSUSE. If you're interested in being part of the project, feel free to contact me via email or suseROCKs in IRC. Bryen Yunashko Helping Hands Coordinator -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Upcoming #opensuse-gnome Meeting 2008/06/26 16:00 UTC ( please check times for your location thoroughly )
by Casual J. Programmer 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Hi all GNOME addicts, The next openSUSE-GNOME project meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-gnome IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-gnome) on upcoming Thursday: 2008/06/26 16:00 UTC (18:00 CEST) For an overview what time this is in different timezones, use: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=26&month=06&year=2… This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE-GNOME. Please review your topics on the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080626 as soon as possible. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/;(not affiliated with openSUSE either). Have a lot of fun .. Casual J. Programmer (on behalf of the openSUSE-GNOME team)

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/06/19)
by Rodrigo Moya 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Helping hands update: * Some experts already engaged: - Lakhil and Abharath will do Evolution - Thorsten and Rodo will do openOffice - hpj will do GDM - First session about basic setup (bluetooth, 3g cards, ...) - Next Friday, 2 hour Helping Hands Grand Opening, covering misc getting started topics (14:30 UTC) Wiki cleanup: * suseROCKs started some cleanup on the wiki * Need volunteers to review pages, there are a lot, bad organized AI: suseROCKS to announce and prepare wiki day 11.1 features * A few ideas have been added to http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.1 * July 4th deadline to add features there * Then, we'll start organizing to get interested people to test / develop / document Bug triage: * http://en.opensuse.org/User:Jproseve/TriageProposal * Priorities assigned to bugs, this will drive the bug fixing order AI master update: * Build service repo: * New repo organization (KDE will use similar setup) * G:STABLE is now empty, but will be populated with GNOME packages from 11.0 * G:Factory for ongoing development/packaging How to set up a process of performance measurement: * Interest in developing coprehensive wiki pages for benchmarking / debugging / performance steps we can give our users so they can offer up more sound information on issues * bootchart / debugging tools * A script to collect information for good bug submission -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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